mstork Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I recall seeing Page and Plant touring with an Egyptian orchestra. It's also been reported that Arabic music is one of the strongest influences Jimmy will attest to. "Egyptian" doesn't necessarily mean "Muslim", surprising comment given that you branded the exclusion of Islam as an example of bigotry. The people running that country now have little tolerance for Coptic Christians who were also Egyptian the last time I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickey g Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 "Jesus is just alright with meeeeeeeeeee !" It's his Fan Club that's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool In The Rain 60 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 i believe that all religions began because they tried to explain actual happenings and beings. some called them GOD, others ALLAh, BUDHA etc etc i believe they were visitors from other worlds, and because they had different looks, and " powers " etc ie they came from heaven ( the cosmos ) they could create thunder ( the engines of their vehicles ) and lightening bolts ( laser beams ) etc etc the people of the time saw them as " GODS ". that is what i believe. current religions can cause more harm than good. i said CAN. 'Slave' I can total understand that, why should we Earthlings be the only Beings in such a vast Universe... I don't follow any Religion just try to be a good person and treat others as I like to be treated. I have no problem with what another people believe in, as long as they not Extremist and causing harm to others... Each to their own... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedcat Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 "Jesus is just alright with meeeeeeeeeee !" It's his Fan Club that's the problem. That's a pretty good thought there. I can't disagree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slave to zep Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 'Slave' I can total understand that, why should we Earthlings be the only Beings in such a vast Universe... I don't follow any Religion just try to be a good person and treat others as I like to be treated. I have no problem with what another people believe in, as long as they not Extremist and causing harm to others... Each to their own... hi fool if everyone were more tolerant of one anothers beliefs, the problems of the world would be greatly reduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Well, I'm supposed to be Protestant but I definitely do not practice religion or go to any church but deep down I do believe there is a God. But some of my beefs with religious history are: The Salem witch burnings The war in Ireland over religion Insane Bible thumpers Insane Koran thumpers Etc. Whatever happened to 'God Is Love?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool In The Rain 60 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 hi fool if everyone were more tolerant of one anothers beliefs, the problems of the world would be greatly reduced. Hi 'Slave' I find that Females are more tolerant, in a world that is Male dominated there will always be problems.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Well, I'm supposed to be Protestant but I definitely do not practice religion or go to any church but deep down I do believe there is a God. But some of my beefs with religious history are: The Salem witch burnings The war in Ireland over religion Insane Bible thumpers Insane Koran thumpers Etc. Whatever happened to 'God Is Love?' The Salem witch trials drive me crazy. They were a stupid stupid thing but Hollywood has turned the actual history on it's head. They were a series of civil trials which lasted about six months. Most of the accused were judged innocent and of the 30(ish?) people (men and women) found guilty most were hanged. Usually when I see anything on TV about it it's a bunch of crazy hate monger Puritans in the church with their torches screaming "Let's kill the witches!" Then the run through the streets burning every innocent woman who talk in public or shows her ankles. It really trivializes the actual injustice that took place by making it an exagerated parody of actual events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 The Salem witch trials drive me crazy. They were a stupid stupid thing but Hollywood has turned the actual history on it's head. They were a series of civil trials which lasted about six months. Most of the accused were judged innocent and of the 30(ish?) people (men and women) found guilty most were hanged. Usually when I see anything on TV about it it's a bunch of crazy hate monger Puritans in the church with their torches screaming "Let's kill the witches!" Then the run through the streets burning every innocent woman who talk in public or shows her ankles. It really trivializes the actual injustice that took place by making it an exagerated parody of actual events. Time to read history,..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I find that Females are more tolerant, What did BIGDAN say about that mum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reswati Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Where the musitions touring with Page and Plant Coptic Christians? I trust you are familiar with this http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html Hossam Ramzy (the leader of the group) is actually a scientologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool In The Rain 60 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 What did BIGDAN say about that mum? BD hasn't seen it I don't allow him on my laptop, ( he gets me banned)... He would agree he thinks that I'm far too Tolerant. or rather his words would be that 'I'm a Wimp'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstork Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Hossam Ramzy (the leader of the group) is actually a scientologist. Well there you go, interesting. I wasn't suggesting that they were Christian. Just pointing out that not all Egyptians are Muslims, even though the Muslim dominated government makes it very uncomfortable to be a religious minority in that country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedZeppfan77 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I see not many votes have been cast. I think many do not want to go down this road. I know we have a Jewish member and he has not voted. Then again, I do not know if he is still around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 "Jesus is just alright with meeeeeeeeeee !" It's his Fan Club that's the problem. Tim Easton has a great song that touches on this very topic called "Jesus, Protect Me From Your Followers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reswati Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I was talking about: The Nag Hammadi Library, not the organization running the website. Nah, I mean the leader of the musicians Page and Plant toured with (whose name is Hossam Ramzy) is a scientologist, not the guy who runs the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 BD hasn't seen it I don't allow him on my laptop, ( he gets me banned)... He would agree he thinks that I'm far too Tolerant. or rather his words would be that 'I'm a Wimp'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Who needs history when you have Hollywood? Hence,the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedcat Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Yeah a big problem............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Robert Anthony II Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I'm an atheist, and yes TS, you spelled that wrong in your poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuthbert Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Does R'nR count as religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Who needs history when you have Hollywood? Yeah, they always get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedcat Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Having watched "Kingdom of Heaven" truer words have never been spoken there. I enjoyed the spectacle of it but historically accurate? Not quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter's walker Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 A couple of months back, I attended a Meditation Retreat at a Buddhist monastery, and I liked it. I'm an Athiest, so I don't subscribe to their beliefs, but I find their way of life intriguing. Guys, don't forget that the Western Media's exhibition of Islam is terribly bent and warped. It focuses on extremists in the Sunni and Shi'ite sects but ignores moderate Moslems and moderate Moslem sects, like the Sufis and the Ismailis. Most Moselms, like most Christians, don't really "practice" their religion, they pay it lip service and that's about all. I'm sure most of the fellows in the Page/Plant Cairo Orchestra were ostensibly Muslims. Oh, and if you want to hear some Led Zeppelin influenced Middle-Eastern "world music," I highly suggest you give a listen to the band Junoon. They're a Sufi Rock Band very influenced by Mssrs. Page and Hendrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter's walker Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Robert Plant has been sympathetic to Mali, he has played there numerous occasions. Since that country is Muslim I assume there's an important and loyal Zeppelin fanbase in the country. Islam is an important religion, a few years ago I read a thick volume by John L. Esposito, it shows how Arab countries were at the forefront of technological and scienfic innovation at some point during their History. Yes, that point would have begun during the "Dark Ages" of Europe, when Islam was a shining light of medical, astronomical and mathematical knowledge. Without the Moslem preservation of the Greek classical texts, very few would have survived until today, it was the Christians who sytematically destroyed these great texts. Guys, don't forget that the Western Media's exhibition of Islam is terribly bent and warped. It focuses on extremists in the Sunni and Shi'ite sects but ignores moderate Moslems and moderate Moslem sects, like the Sufis and the Ismailis. Most Moselms, like most Christians, don't really "practice" their religion, they pay it lip service and that's about all. I'm sure most of the fellows in the Page/Plant Cairo Orchestra were ostensibly Muslims. Oh, and if you want to hear some Led Zeppelin influenced Middle-Eastern "world music," I highly suggest you give a listen to the band Junoon. They're a Sufi Rock Band very influenced by Mssrs. Page and Hendrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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