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tomk67

Nobody's Fault But Mine chord...

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Greetings.

New member here. Hello to one and all.

I'm sure we're all familiar with that odd chord Jimmy plays on the live versions of NFBM...but what is it?

I'm a guitar player, and it's driving me nuts trying to figure it out.

There's the descending riff to E, then the descending riff to...

I actually think it's great, but I know it sends some running.

You know, the Stones cover band I'm in opened for Led ZepAgain here in the Bay Area last month,

and I forgot to ask their guitar player. Nice guys. The singer did sound for me a few years back.All from my hometown in L.A. Terrible shame about

their gear. It was stolen the next morning.

Anyway, I'll be around.

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Welcome, tomk67.

I believe it's called Sucks Major.

Thanks for the welcome, but I don't think that's it. Isn't that an Edge chord (with no effects)?

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Greetings.

New member here. Hello to one and all.

I'm sure we're all familiar with that odd chord Jimmy plays on the live versions of NFBM...but what is it?

I'm a guitar player, and it's driving me nuts trying to figure it out.

There's the descending riff to E, then the descending riff to...

I actually think it's great, but I know it sends some running.

You know, the Stones cover band I'm in opened for Led ZepAgain here in the Bay Area last month,

and I forgot to ask their guitar player. Nice guys. The singer did sound for me a few years back.All from my hometown in L.A. Terrible shame about

their gear. It was stolen the next morning.

Anyway, I'll be around.

Does he play a different chord then live in parts which is different to the studio recording ? haven't listened to Zep live for along tome so cannot recall.

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you mean at 1:14 (studio version)

first one ends in E

second one in A

but i'm guessing it's another riff....

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Pretty sure he's talking about this one (at 1:46)

That's the one. At first I thought it was a sixth chord, but that wasn't it (and I can't see his hands).

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I think he is simply making a mistake :-)

One that becomes iconic and part of the song through the years. When I heard it, I also though "oh yeah, that one" :-)

It sounds like he's playing top to bottom (low to high e):

3 (g)

x (muted with middle finger that plays the g)

0 (d)

2 (a)

3 (d) -- or : 0 (B )

x (muted or not played)

Hope that helps.

Edited by Giordano

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I think he is simply making a mistake :-)

One that becomes iconic and part of the song through the years. When I heard it, I also though "oh yeah, that one" :-)

It sounds like he's playing top to bottom (low to high e):

3 (g)

x (muted with middle finger that plays the g)

0 (d)

2 (a)

3 (d) -- or : 0 (B )

x (muted or not played)

Hope that helps.

I was going to say that too :) but thought better of it.

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I remember reading that when the Crowes rehearsed Zeppelin tunes before their gigs with Jimmy, and thought they had everything right, that chord in NFBM was one of the corrections Jimmy made for them. I wouldn't call that a "mistake" either. It's dissonant, very trademark Jimmy Page in my opinion.

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could be. born as a mistake or as a delibirate thing, iconic it certainly is.

Still mistakes are nothing to be ashamed of and god knows Jimmy page made his fare share of them.

For all his brilliance (he is the ultimate guitar heroe imo) it can not be denied that he was a bit of a sloppy player at times.

For the listener in me that is part of his charm as a guitarist.

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I think he is simply making a mistake :-)

One that becomes iconic and part of the song through the years. When I heard it, I also though "oh yeah, that one" :-)

It sounds like he's playing top to bottom (low to high e):

3 (g)

x (muted with middle finger that plays the g)

0 (d)

2 (a)

3 (d) -- or : 0 (B )

x (muted or not played)

Hope that helps.

That's pretty damn close. You may be right. Thanks.

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When writing or playing a song or a riff you sometimes slip up into something that you were not planning. Sometimes it surprises you and you keep it in.

wether he sat down and composed this chord or slipped up during a live gig and though: "by jove, that is rather nifty. I'll keep that in", we will probably never know.

Whatever it was..... the fact that we are here talking about it proves it was a good call. :-)

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You're welcome Tom.

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That's it, but the B is open...

You're right - I didn't have the guitar with me. I checked when I got home & the B string is definitely open. Lovely clash against the fretted A on the G string.

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I think he is simply making a mistake :-)

One that becomes iconic and part of the song through the years. When I heard it, I also though "oh yeah, that one" :-)

It sounds like he's playing top to bottom (low to high e):

3 (g)

x (muted with middle finger that plays the g)

0 (d)

2 (a)

3 (d) -- or : 0 (B )

x (muted or not played)

Hope that helps.

:-)

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he also does a variation at the 7th fret, inverted Gsus2... frets the B bass, always against a E chord. Used it live only as best I can tell. "Oh Jimmy.... Oh Jimmmmyyyyyyy..." Dang where was that at the O2

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