DAS Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 http://www.avrev.com/top-100-bands-of-all-time/top-10-rock-bands/index.php The fact I post in the master forum should tip you off as to who is #1. I see a lot of lists posted usually about best guitarist of all-time and I usually do not like them but since they seem popular I thought I'd share this one I found. I heavily disagree with the results but I like how it was compiled. Very transparent and scientific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Historian Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I've seen this list before (maybe even here?) - Thanks for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Melanie Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Damn straight they are # 1!!...just saying.:-)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Zep Girl Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 It's great that they are #1 but, I am now thinking the lists are over rated. There's too many of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 ^ I agree with you there. I hadn't seen a rock bands list here yet though. Plus the way this one was done was really much better. I hate when they compile a panel of judges and just say this is what they picked. I think in terms of list though Led Zeppelin is the #1 band. Every best bands list has them at or near the top. Robert Plant, Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones all come in close to the top of their respective categories and John Bonham seems to be #1 in every drummer list I've seen. No other band has that level of talent that is also universally recognized. Amazing four guys that talented would all wind up in a band together and work so well together not just musically but personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesehead1204 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I like how this was compiled and that they put Led Zeppelin at number one, but I still have a lot of problems with the final list. The Rolling Stones at 20? Radiohead at 90??? I like the categories they examined, but their ratings are way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Zep Girl Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 ^ I agree with you there. I hadn't seen a rock bands list here yet though. Plus the way this one was done was really much better. I hate when they compile a panel of judges and just say this is what they picked. I think in terms of list though Led Zeppelin is the #1 band. Every best bands list has them at or near the top. Robert Plant, Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones all come in close to the top of their respective categories and John Bonham seems to be #1 in every drummer list I've seen. No other band has that level of talent that is also universally recognized. Amazing four guys that talented would all wind up in a band together and work so well together not just musically but personally. I see your point & I agree with you as well. Thank you for clearing that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 I like how this was compiled and that they put Led Zeppelin at number one, but I still have a lot of problems with the final list. The Rolling Stones at 20? Radiohead at 90??? I like the categories they examined, but their ratings are way off. My biggest problem was that the Black Eyed Peas were on the list at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led_Rock_Hard Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I like the system of compiling the list, but so many bands in the wrong place, for example: Black Sabbath should be way higher, U2 way lower, Duran Duran shouldn't be on the list, same with The Black Eyed Peas(shouldn't be on the list). Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and Motorhead should all be higher, I could go on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesehead1204 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 My biggest problem was that the Black Eyed Peas were on the list at all. Yeah that's a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I hadn't seen a rock bands list here yet though. I'm not trying to be rude or a smartass with you but believe you me, there's been plenty. Even if Zeppelin is at number one discussion of these lists almost always turns into a pissing match. I know they're meant to spark debate but it seems like around here, things escalate quickly and the next thing you know, everyone is at each other's throats. We all have our own individual favorites and no matter how each list is compiled or who does the compiling, there has never been a list posted here that everyone has agreed on and there never will be. Hopefully this one will be the exception and everyone can remain civil. That sure would be nice and a very refreshing change of pace to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Historian Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I'm not trying to be rude or a smartass with you but believe you me, there's been plenty. Even if Zeppelin is at number one discussion of these lists almost always turns into a pissing match. I know they're meant to spark debate but it seems like around here, things escalate quickly and the next thing you know, everyone is at each other's throats. We all have our own individual favorites and no matter how each list is compiled or who does the compiling, there has never been a list posted here that everyone has agreed on and there never will be. Hopefully this one will be the exception and everyone can remember civil. That sure would be nice and a very refreshing change of pace to see. Amen to that- Can I get a Hallelujah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Amen to that- Can I get a Hallelujah Praise the Lord and pass the Boone's Farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The Orb???? I am a fan of the dance/techno/ambient dub pioneers but to be on a list of Rock Bands I find quite hilarious. Theivery Corporation also. They are also lounge/dub DJ producers and are not a band at all. Maybe they have a group when they play live but they are cetainly not rock. An irrelevant list if there ever was one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I have just browsed the list again and ORBITAL !!! A rock band? Though I have to say when i saw them years ago they were fucking magnificent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I guess the lesson learned here is never send a baby boomer to do a man's job. J/k. Actually the lesson here is the same one that applies to all these lists: There's always a flaw. Therefore it's usually pointless and silly to try. But here's what I find interesting about these lists or rankings that regularly get cranked out by magazines and websites with brain cramps(Don't have an idea for a column? Make a list! It's quick and easy to do and always guarantees a response): The more they try to assert that THEIR list is the one done most scientifically or the most objectively or most correct, the more hilariously bad the results tend to be. Case in point: DAS' list which he even says in the Topic heading is "Done Right". Then he says he disagrees heavily with the results and I don't blame him. But then, why bother when, as Jahfin noted, there are already plenty of rock band lists posted here to argue about. Led Zeppelin is #1, which I suppose makes this list different than most(no Beatles or Stones in the top spot). But even a cursory once over of the list reveals some howlers. Stone Temple Weasels ranked above the bands they basically stole their sound from, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden? Where are the Byrds, the Kinks and Neil Young & Crazy Horse (which deserves more consideration than CSN & Y)? I don't have a problem including EDM acts like Underworld, The Orb or even Black Eyed Peas...but not at the expense of the Kinks and the Byrds. No Yardbirds, either, I see. What isn't explained is did they just come up with these 100 names and then rank them? Or are these the Top 100 point-getters from a larger pool of hundreds? Which would suggest these people are bigger idiots than previously thought if the Byrds and the Kinks were among the bands considered and still outranked by the likes of Black Eyed Peas. These people also seemed to have been in a coma during the 80s. Bands like Stone Temple Piots, No Doubt, Audioslave(?!?), Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden wouldn't have had a pot to piss in if it wasn't for the groundwork and alternative foundation laid by these 80s pioneers: The Cramps, the Replacements, Hüsker Dü, Jesus & Mary Chain, the Mekons, Orange Juice, The Smiths, The Cult, Jane's Addiction, Fishbone, Social Distortion, Dinosaur Jr., Butthole Surfers, Thelonious Monster, Concrete Blonde, the Muffs, the Nymphs, Ministry, and...well, you get the idea. And hello...where are the freaking Ramones?!? I don't care if they did have Led Zeppelin ranked #1...this list is just as much a load of bollocks as the ones by Rolling Stone. Maybe even more of an epic fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Starship Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I agree with the placement of Led Zeppelin on this list, except for technical ability which should be 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAS Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 I noticed that the Beatles were not #1 because their technical ability is somewhat low. I have always thought that about them but no one else has ever said it. It's not that their bad musicians, rather, they just weren't talented enough to blow me away like Led Zeppelin or The Who for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Presley Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 While it's an exceptional list, it suffers from quite a few flaws. Bob Marley and the Wailers are by far too high on the list, especially considering it's a "rock" list. Cream is too downplayed, considering what a great band they were. Why are the Dixie Chicks even on this list? Because they did a few country rock songs? Honestly it feels like they were running out of bands and chose artists that didn't even remotely belong on the list, let alone the genre. I also really don't find the Jimi Hendrix Experience to be as great as the statistics are making them out to be, seeing many other bands in the vicinity are a lot better in the regarded aspects. The Black Eyed Peas is really my final complaint as a whole, seeing they shouldn't even be on a dignified list, opinionated or not. While I've always felt that Zeppelin was better than the Beatles, I can't help but grow sick and tired of the blatant accusations of plagiarism. Not only that, but ignorance suffers in the population that surrounds Elvis' legacy. In terms of influence, I'd say the Beatles probably win in terms of longevity, but Zeppelin has that sound that no other band really has, which puts them over the top in any case; so I'm glad they at least got #1 right, which isn't something I see often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarmy Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 The list is a good start but the method can be improved. I don't think they gave enough consideration to historical context. Bands don't live in a timeless vacuum where other bands don't have any affect on later bands. For example, there are many cases where Band B would not have existed if Band A didn't exist first. Or maybe Band B might have still existed but could have been entirely different and possibly not successful at all. Think about trendsetter bands like Nirvana and Black Sabbath that are waaay too far down the list. Even if Black Sabbath hadn't influenced metal as much as they did (along with Led Zeppelin, however unintentional), they were a great band with many great songs that stretched over a long period of time. Sabbath has to be better than Metallica by default. I don't care if Metallica plays for another 40 years! Some bands easily wouldn't exist without others or at least they would have been entirely different. At some point you need to look at the results and go - ok wait a minute there's something wrong here - scrap the results and come up with a different method Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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