shnflacwav Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 It's a shame people find this an appropriate response to an amateur Anti-Islamic film (as reported on MSNBC - a liberal channel). These extremists aren't doing themselves any favors in the eyes of non-Islamic people around the world. I hope the President is firm with the leaders of those countries that while the content is not condoned, the liberties we have will be protected and that not protecting our embassies will put them in a position to lose aid or incur more severe penalties from the US. RIP the 4 people who were killed in Libya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shnflacwav Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 It was wishful thinking. I can hope, because I don't have any change left. I already gave all that to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/12-photos-of-benghazi-citizens-apologizing-to-amer?fb_ref=recbar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/19-more-photos-of-libyans-apologizing-for-american?fb_ref=recbar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypeO Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 It's a shame people find this an appropriate response to an amateur Anti-Islamic film (as reported on MSNBC - a liberal channel). These extremists aren't doing themselves any favors in the eyes of non-Islamic people around the world. I hope the President is firm with the leaders of those countries that while the content is not condoned, the liberties we have will be protected and that not protecting our embassies will put them in a position to lose aid or incur more severe penalties from the US. RIP the 4 people who were killed in Libya. Actually, the initial Benghazi attack was planned to coordinate with 9/11. Exactly how the film clip was orchestrated into the events is unclear, although it looks to have been used as a pretext for the attacks, additionally serving to incite the subsequent attacks in Egypt and Yemen. Way too much attention has been focused on the film clip as well as Romney's response to the initial attack, while questions about the administration's failure to be prepared - including the fact that Obama hadn't met with his security/intelligence team for over a week preceding the attacks - are far more significant and important to this crisis. Yesterday, and open mic captured 2 reporters - one from CBS and the other from NPR - coordinating their line of questioning before Romney's press conference in order to keep the questions on the issue of Romney's initial response rather than allowing the conversation to - rightly - address the incident itself, it's consequences, and the administration's response. This time, it's more than just perception or "conspiracy". This time, the media is caught on tape collaborating to manipulate the dialog to Romney, rather than on the actual issue at hand. And if you believe this doesn't happen on the regular, you're painfully naive. The point? The broadcast news reports last night and this morning were full of Romney's response to the attacks - basically that he was out of line for speaking out - without a single mention of this recorded conversation. So yes, the media reports HOW and WHAT they want us to hear, and not hear. And that should outrage EVERYONE, regardless of political views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henrybonzo Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others err, the pilgrims and the generations after didnt really believe this when they slaughtered all the native Americans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shnflacwav Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 http://www.buzzfeed....n?fb_ref=recbar I swear I saw a California license plate on one of those cars. just kidding, thanks for sharing. Actually, the initial Benghazi attack was planned to coordinate with 9/11. Exactly how the film clip was orchestrated into the events is unclear, although it looks to have been used as a pretext for the attacks, additionally serving to incite the subsequent attacks in Egypt and Yemen. Way too much attention has been focused on the film clip as well as Romney's response to the initial attack, while questions about the administration's failure to be prepared - including the fact that Obama hadn't met with his security/intelligence team for over a week preceding the attacks - are far more significant and important to this crisis. Yesterday, and open mic captured 2 reporters - one from CBS and the other from NPR - coordinating their line of questioning before Romney's press conference in order to keep the questions on the issue of Romney's initial response rather than allowing the conversation to - rightly - address the incident itself, it's consequences, and the administration's response. This time, it's more than just perception or "conspiracy". This time, the media is caught on tape collaborating to manipulate the dialog to Romney, rather than on the actual issue at hand. And if you believe this doesn't happen on the regular, you're painfully naive. The point? The broadcast news reports last night and this morning were full of Romney's response to the attacks - basically that he was out of line for speaking out - without a single mention of this recorded conversation. So yes, the media reports HOW and WHAT they want us to hear, and not hear. And that should outrage EVERYONE, regardless of political views. I read on some other sites about the co-ordinated attack on the 9/11 anniversary. I just wanted to pander to the liberals what the most liberal channel out there was reporting. I find it negligent on Obummer's part if he really didn't meet with this security and intelligence people for a week preceding that date. It is always gonna be one where terrorists will potentially use to keep us terrorized. MSNBC was blasting Romney and Fox was praising him for the comments. I think he's right. Obummer thinks diplomacy alone is gonna win over these people. It isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shnflacwav Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 I find this article to be both disturbing and negligent on behalf of Anne Patterson's part: http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-not-permitted-live-ammo/ U.S. Marines defending the American embassy in Egypt were not permitted by the State Department to carry live ammunition, limiting their ability to respond to attacks like those this week on the U.S. consulate in Cairo. Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson “did not permit U.S. Marine guards to carry live ammunition,” according to multiple reports on U.S. Marine Corps blogs spotted by Nightwatch. “She neutralized any U.S. military capability that was dedicated to preserve her life and protect the US Embassy.” U.S. officials have yet to confirm or comment on the reports. Time magazine’s Battleland blog reported Thursday “Senior U.S. officials late Wednesday declined to discuss in detail the security at either Cairo or Benghazi, so answers may be slow in coming.” If true, the reports indicate that Patterson shirked her obligation to protect U.S. interests, Nightwatch states. “She did not defend U.S. sovereign territory and betrayed her oath of office,” the report states. “She neutered the Marines posted to defend the embassy, trusting the Egyptians over the Marines.” While Marines are typically relied on to defend U.S. territory abroad, such as embassies, these reports indicate that the Obama administration was relying on Egypt’s new Muslim Brotherhood-backed government to ensure American security, a move observers are questioning as violence in Cairo continues to rage. Marc Toner, the State Department’s deputy spokesperson, did not respond to a request for comment from the Free Beacon. White House National Security Council spokesperson Tommy Vietor also did not respond to a request for comment. The U.S. ambassador to any nation ultimately decides whether Marines are authorized to carry ammunition, according to a GOP national security adviser knowledgeable about American embassy protocols. “In the end, the ambassador of any country has the final call on what to do in a country,” the source said. “The buck stops with you. You make every decision.” Security procedures are subjective and subject to change depending on locale, the source said. Each ambassador, in consultation with their Regional Security Officer (RSO), sets the policy regarding the rules of engagement, according to the adviser. The RSO is responsible for coordinating all security measures and reports directly to the ambassador in any given nation. “A decision or order to set rules of engagement that you can’t carry live ammunition and can’t engage violent crowds climbing over your walls and tearing down your flag stems from direct orders from the Chief of Mission and possibly whoever the Chief of Mission reports to,” the source explained. Given that the siege of the Cairo embassy unfolded over many hours, the source wondered if new orders pertaining to the rules of engagement were ever issued. Ambassador Anne Patterson was in D.C. during the attacks, according to reports. “I cannot believe that over an eight hour period that nobody … in that chain of command did not ask those questions of their superiors,” the source said. “These protestors did not just appear and within 20 minutes climb the wall.” The Free Beacon will continue to update this report as events warrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 err, the pilgrims and the generations after didnt really believe this when they slaughtered all the native Americans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bong-Man Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 We can argue this forever, but for my money, the responses by Romney and Ryan after this event were a sad reminder of the 'bull in a china-shop' diplomacy we left behind 4 years ago....the same reason Bush, Cheney, Delay, and the other cast of characters weren't seen at the RNC. It's also about time someone in the U.S. stands up to Isreal and makes them understand the blank check of American support no longer exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 We can argue this forever, but for my money, the responses by Romney and Ryan after this event were a sad reminder of the 'bull in a china-shop' diplomacy we left behind 4 years ago....the same reason Bush, Cheney, Delay, and the other cast of characters weren't seen at the RNC. It's also about time someone in the U.S. stands up to Isreal and makes them understand the blank check of American support no longer exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryingbluerain Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Another WTF .....Obama: Egypt neither ally nor enemy of US: “I don’t think that we would consider them an ally, but we don’t consider them an enemy,” Obama said on Wednesday. Of course now they're trying to walk it back and "clarify" what he said. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shnflacwav Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 We can argue this forever, but for my money, the responses by Romney and Ryan after this event were a sad reminder of the 'bull in a china-shop' diplomacy we left behind 4 years ago....the same reason Bush, Cheney, Delay, and the other cast of characters weren't seen at the RNC. It's also about time someone in the U.S. stands up to Isreal and makes them understand the blank check of American support no longer exists. No, we need to stand up to Egypt (who is in top 5 of financial aid from the US in the world) and make them understand the blank check of American support no longer exists, especially if they are not going to protect our embassy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstork Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 No, we need to stand up to Egypt (who is in top 5 of financial aid from the US in the world) and make them understand the blank check of American support no longer exists, especially if they are not going to protect our embassy. Thank you for seizing upon "blank check" faster than I could! Ironic choice of words... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 amazing just over a decade out and the naivety of the american people is almost at it's pre 9/11 peak i weep for the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryingbluerain Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 This is what they're all so upset about.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntgzoE7rU9A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Just an excuse CBR,...egad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryingbluerain Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 My point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 When shit like this happens I always have to sing: Kill The Americans! Kill The Americans! Kill The Americans! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! The miserable fucking bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryingbluerain Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 What? It wasn't the video? I'm shocked! SHOCKED I tell you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles J. White Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 She ordered security to be beefed up and someone overrode her order... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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