hecube Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Will it even be included? What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledded1 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Does it matter? It happened people know but it was hardly a major disaster. Leave it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 He's scrapped it, this is probably the last Zeppelin release he'S gone overboard on perfection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie29 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 He's scrapped it, this is probably the last Zeppelin release he'S gone overboard on perfection That's the magic of live performance, anything can happen. Obviously he will have tweaked it and from the trailer the feedback seems to have been erased. How would you or any of us here know what he has done or deleted? Once again offering up opinion as fact. Be grateful they are releasing it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousinlouie Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 What was the mistake in Dazed I keep hearing about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 That's the magic of live performance, anything can happen. Obviously he will have tweaked it and from the trailer the feedback seems to have been erased. How would you or any of us here know what he has done or deleted? Once again offering up opinion as fact. Be grateful they are releasing it at all. History shows I'm probably right but we'll see, calm down no one was being ungrateful were they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie29 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 History shows I'm probably right but we'll see, calm down no one was being ungrateful were they. All good here. I'll re-phrase, WE all should be grateful it is being released. Is that better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecube Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 I'm grateful but curious and I opened this thread for the sole purpose of speculating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie29 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I'm grateful but curious and I opened this thread for the sole purpose of speculating. Of course we are all curious. It will be great no matter what. I actually didn't mind the way it kinda went pear shaped, it just proves they are human and not gods after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Sombreo Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 What was the mistake in Dazed I keep hearing about? I to am curious as to this topic. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowblue Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I think (and hope) it will remain intact, at most "adjusted" to be more seamless if Jimmy deemed it a problem. As Reggie said, that's the beauty of live performance. As prepared and rehearsed as they were, this wasn't a road-hardened set for the guys on the night, so one thing over 2 hours people have noticed pouring over the bootlegs isn't bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryder1978 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Cousinlouie and Great Sombreo, After the lead in "Dazed and Confused" the band had a hard time transitioning back into the opening bass line riff. They almost stop in the middle of the song! Here are a couple previous comments about it. Go to YouTube to hear it for yourselves. I just listened to it again and it's really hard to say what went wrong here...but right around or just prior to the 9:00 mark (of the trainspotter recording), both jimmy and JPJ go into the transition part...but it sounds like they're not in sync. i'm not sure who makes the correction, but it sounds like they both end up in sync after starting out of sync...but jason never syncs properly with them, so he ends up going into his fill to end the transition *after* the other guys have already ended the transition and started playing the B riff. before all this happens, jason did a fill that seemed out of place which may have caused the initial confusion. i'd like to see if anyone has other opinions on this or if anyone can explain it better (because i know my explanation sucks). ipb.global.registerReputation( 'rep_post_58071', { domLikeStripId: 'like_post_58071', app: 'forums', type: 'pid', typeid: '58071' }, parseInt('') ); The whole end is a mess. IF they had a pre-planned cue for going into the E-D-A E-G part, Jimmy missed it and started it late. This is heard through the fact that Bonham is hitting the cymboles in the correct place without the hits from Jimmy. They do however salvage this and start playing together. But then all hell breaks loose when Bonham does this "weird" fill. Well that weird fill, which occured during the performance over the riff on the B, was, I believe, supposed to go over the E-D-A E-G part! This John Bonham did in a number of shows (HTWWW? I'm too lazy to get it from my car right now). Thus Jason thought that part went on longer than it did during the show, either by mistake or some kind of miscommunication stemming from the first time Jimmy is late coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Historian Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 It's funny you posted this topic. I was thinking the same thing for a brief moment today, because we know Jimmy's a perfectionist. I'd have to guess they tightened it up a bit, (edit) but if they didn't I really don't mind. Either way, it doesn't make me any less anxious or excited to view this, not only at the Cinema but in the pleasure of my own home over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyPhantom Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 considering the running time I highly doubt it was scrapped. I've listened to the bootleg endlessly and while its definitely not the way the album version goes, it really doesnt sound bad. Its live and you have the four greatest living talents up on stage, its fantastic I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryder1978 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I would guess that an audio snippet from the rehearsals was patched in along with some clever camera angles to make it look seamless. I personally don't care if they left it "as is". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayougal65 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I think if left alone it will join the ranks of the squeaky drum pedal in SIBLY, the airplane/discussion in BCW, and the sexiest inhalation of breath ever recorded in history on IV's GTC!!! All of which to me are priceless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryder1978 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Wow. I never noticed any obvious inhalation on "Going to California"....I'll give it a listen tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayougal65 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Wow. I never noticed any obvious inhalation on "Going to California"....I'll give it a listen tonight! It is just as the song begins. sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I hope there are no overdubs at all, but I know I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyPhantom Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Dazed and Confused is definitely not excluded from the film. After watching the trailer for probably the 150th time today, i noticed a very quick snippet of Jimmy underneath the green pyramid of lasers towards the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousinlouie Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I forget the boot, but I have a show where the band is doing Misty Mountain Hop, and Plant just misses his cue for the lyrics, then Bonzo does a drum roll, and brings the band back to the start of the mistake, leave it in I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmtomh Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Just headed over to YouTube to refresh my memory. Two observations: (1) Wow, that is a bit of a mess at the end there. (2) It's nothing compared to the many, many colossal f***-ups in "Kashmir" on the 1977 and 1980 tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 He's scrapped it, this is probably the last Zeppelin release he'S gone overboard on perfection Actually, history will prove you wrong. My bootleg of the O2 concert runs just over 2 hrs 6 minutes. The run time of the official release is 2 hrs and 4 mins. So Jimmy has obviously NOT scrapped "Dazed and Confused". About the mess up at the end of D & C, here's what I posted after just listening to the O2 show a couple of times: 12.10.07 O2 Arena, London Listening again to this, and I've gotta say that I don't think "Dazed and Confused" is as big a trainwreck at the end of the solo as some people claim. I don't think it needs to be fixed at all...I hope Jimmy leaves it alone. It sort of adds to the spookiness of the piece. The song is called Dazed and Confused after all. One thing that stands out about "Stairway to Heaven" to me is how much better it sounds with Robert singing close to the original melody line and sticking with just a few restrained "and it makes me wonder" at the end of the verses. In the old days, I found some of his performances on "Stairway" overwrought, with too much screeching. I think the song works better with a 'less is more' vocal approach...save the big voice for the end. So it is refreshing to hear "Stairway" the way it was performed at the O2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Genesis Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Well if it's going to be a MOVIE like TSRTS, then I guess we will have fillers or interviews inbetween the songs...If there were any fuck ups, I bet they will just have the transition faster or whatever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Well if it's going to be a MOVIE like TSRTS, then I guess we will have fillers or interviews inbetween the songs...If there were any fuck ups, I bet they will just have the transition faster or whatever... It's going to be just footage of the concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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