ksgemini Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 That's pretty cool Wife has to watch stuff for acting coach so we broke down and got one Next on my list is no more iPhone when contract is over OT i knowI can watch the LZ dvd's so there's some benefits to TV but my set is low end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirvana Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 There's a reason why RP and JPJ have distanced themselves from the reissues. I believe that they want to move away from the past and knew that any companion disks would she'd no new light on what Zeppelin were about back in their hey day. And truthfully the unreleased song bits don't give us any more clues to the Zeppelin myth than we already know. La La and the Bathroom Song are not stuff of legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksgemini Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 There's a reason why RP and JPJ have distanced themselves from the reissues. I believe that they want to move away from the past and knew that any companion disks would she'd no new light on what Zeppelin were about back in their hey day. And truthfully the unreleased song bits don't give us any more clues to the Zeppelin myth than we already know. La La and the Bathroom Song are not stuff of legend. Complete agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lif Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 La La and the Bathroom Song are not stuff of legend. In my opinion many people are missing the point of the companion discs. I think they were intended to provide grace notes to the remastered original albums and as such are more like musical bits of curiosity, of historical interest and just more Led Zeppelin. Some are clearly examples of working out problems, some show how the boys developed musical ideas that got tossed out, but all of it provides me with additional insight into the artistic thinking of Jimmy Page, which is extraordinarily valuable. I think La La and the Bathroom Song are great fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Plus we are only 2 discs in, as far as the companion studio discs go. To each his own. I like II's comp disc, but I LOVE III's companion disc. Love the different takes, it sounds like a completely different album to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksgemini Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Well the great thing is we have the option of getting remastered cd's with or without them. Personally i traded my double cd for singles and am done with companion discs but great for those who want them They can have both. Everyone wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Plus we are only 2 discs in, as far as the companion studio discs go. To each his own. I like II's comp disc, but I LOVE III's companion disc. Love the different takes, it sounds like a completely different album to me. 3 was great, how can you not love 'Keys to the Highway?' Plus the companion version of 'That's the Way' is better than the album version, imo. Better guitar tone, overall sound, and tempo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I love Friends and OOTT as instrumentals too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I love Friends and OOTT as instrumentals too! and an official quality 'Jennings Farm Blues'! What's not to like!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 How much better is the sound quality on the stripped down Gallows Pole? Beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 How much better is the sound quality on the stripped down Gallows Pole? Beautiful! You can really hear Jonesys basslines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 People have this complex about the companion audio. It's like each track is supposed to be this earth shattering masterpiece of amazing quality, otherwise it's a waste of plastic. They are missing the point of the companion audio. Similarly, the people who complain about the box sets as a cash grab (and a waste of time and plastic due to bonus content choices) are missing the point of these releases. The point is to refresh the mastering in all formats with the advances in modern technology. Most of these alternate mixes really showcase what effect producing had on the music, and gives a clearer idea of how Zep actually sounded in the studio vs. on the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 It's eyeopening to hear what they actually played without a lot of effects, overdubs, and stereo panning. It makes me appreciate the work that Page (and others) put into the final mixes, but at the same time gives us a cool look into "the making of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksgemini Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 My ears are not good enough to hear these thing That's the Way sounded the same to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 ^ I'm sorry for you. Maybe try headphones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 My ears are not good enough to hear these thing That's the Way sounded the same to me Do you have them on your computer? I'm telling you guys, listen to them back to back, even just the first few bars. The companion versions guitar tone sounds much richer and fuller, the album version sounds very 'thin' in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 People have this complex about the companion audio. It's like each track is supposed to be this earth shattering masterpiece of amazing quality, otherwise it's a waste of plastic. They are missing the point of the companion audio. Similarly, the people who complain about the box sets as a cash grab (and a waste of time and plastic due to bonus content choices) are missing the point of these releases. The point is to refresh the mastering in all formats with the advances in modern technology. Most of these alternate mixes really showcase what effect producing had on the music, and gives a clearer idea of how Zep actually sounded in the studio vs. on the album. It's eyeopening to hear what they actually played without a lot of effects, overdubs, and stereo panning. It makes me appreciate the work that Page (and others) put into the final mixes, but at the same time gives us a cool look into "the making of." Well said Cornholio. I will give you TP for your bunghole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcondo123 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 It's eyeopening to hear what they actually played without a lot of effects, overdubs, and stereo panning. It makes me appreciate the work that Page (and others) put into the final mixes, but at the same time gives us a cool look into "the making of." I love how you put that, Glyn. I look at the companion discs as a "making of" disc, not like how others are looking at it. I Because I look at it that way, I can appreciate it more than someone who looks at the companion disc as something totally different and new. I love the behind the scenes stuff whether its music, or movies, or whatever- and it's great to hear how these songs were built up. Then there's that special surprise of a unreleased song or completely different take of a song that pops up on the discs, which makes them even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glyn Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 My ears are not good enough to hear these thing That's the Way sounded the same to me "That's the Way" runs at a higher pitch on the companion disc. Some people instantly hear that, others cant or just don't notice it. One of other big differences is the added mandolin and dulcimer. I can hear that the mix is different, but those are the two things I can clearly point out. Otherwise just really listen to the instruments, the echo on Plant's vocals, everything sounds much clearer/more pronounced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksgemini Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I sold my 2 cd sets so can't compare anymore I traded for the single versions and a great double cd of Love forever Changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Here you go man: and the album version: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksgemini Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Ok I do see some differences but the superior take clearly is the one they ended up using. Anyway enjoy people! To each his or her own... Thanks for the post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Ok I do see some differences but the superior take clearly is the one they ended up using. Anyway enjoy people! To each his or her own... Thanks for the post Clearly seems a little strong... +1 for the rough mix imo. You're welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksgemini Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I will miss having SIBLY alternate that one was really great but hey Forever Changes 2 cd on top of the Zep single cdz's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I will miss having SIBLY alternate that one was really great but hey Forever Changes 2 cd on top of the Zep single cdz's What about 'Key to the Highway/Trouble In Mind'? I loved that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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