kaiser Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 "Dazed And Confused" 11:59 ( Jimmy Page; inspired by Jake Holmes ). Well, I guess that settles that finally & rightfully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Dirigible Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 "Dazed And Confused" 11:59 ( Jimmy Page; inspired by Jake Holmes ). Well, I guess that settles that finally & rightfully so. I like how they settled that. Dazed and Confused became a completely different song after Page rewrote it, but it is nice to have Jake Holmes credited. "Inspired by" is much better than a co-credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagittarius Rising Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Too bad Willie Dixon and Bo Diddley never followed suit with all the song melodies they stole and never gave credit to. Then again, since those songs had been going around for so long it would probably be strange to see on the songwriting credit, (W.Dixon, and some long dead black guy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 I received my copy yesterday & I must admit I was shocked to see the credit, particularly after reading "Led Zeppelin: The Oral History of the World's Greatest Rock Band" by Barney Hoskyns in which by all accounts Page would fight tooth & nail for what he considered his, principally "Dazed And Confused". It was a pleasant surprise to see that he finally gave up the ghost. The Hoskyns book is a great read as well, much better than "Hammer Of The Gods" & slightly better than "When Giants Walked The Earth" if just for not having the imaginary dialogues Wall used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 In Diddleys case, I guess one can't copyright a beat as that's what everyone from Buddy Holly to The Who to Bruce Springsteen took from him. Anyway with this new "Dazed And Confused" songwriting credit maybe Page will finally allow an official release of The Yardbirds "Live At The Anderson Theatre". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Dirigible Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Too bad Willie Dixon and Bo Diddley never followed suit with all the song melodies they stole and never gave credit to. Then again, since those songs had been going around for so long it would probably be strange to see on the songwriting credit, (W.Dixon, and some long dead black guy). I believe that Willie Dixon eventually did recieve a credit for Whole Lotta Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WChrisMullen Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Indeed, HTWWW credits WLL to Willie Dixon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Dirigible Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 And I think I noticed Dixon is credited in Celebration Day (the concert, not the song). Can anyone verify this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 And I think I noticed Dixon is credited in Celebration Day (the concert, not the song). Can anyone verify this? He is, on "Whole Lotta Love" but that's not news as has been credited on every release with "Whole Lotta Love" on it for some time where this Jake Holmes credit is entirely new. I wonder if this was a concession in the court case or if the powers that be just wanted to exercise some damage control? For myself this has been the one remaining black eye on Led Zeppelins plagiarism allegations & I'm happy to see this cleared up finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Dirigible Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 He is, on "Whole Lotta Love" but that's not news as has been credited on every release with "Whole Lotta Love" on it for some time where this Jake Holmes credit is entirely new. I wonder if this was a concession in the court case or if the powers that be just wanted to exercise some damage control? For myself this has been the one remaining black eye on Led Zeppelins plagiarism allegations & I'm happy to see this cleared up finally. I would think that it was part of the out of court settlement. The powers that be never tried to credit Jake Holmes before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecube Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Not to stir the pot but this is interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_jean According to Daryl Hall, when Jackson was recording “We Are the World,” Jackson approached him and admitted to lifting the bass line for "Billie Jean" from a Hall and Oates song (apparently referring to Hall's "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)" from the 1981 album Private Eyes): "Michael Jackson once said directly to me that he hoped I didn't mind that he copied that groove." Hall says he told Jackson that he had lifted the bass line himself, remarking, "it's something we all do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 Not to stir the pot but this is interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billie_jean Michael Jackson may have taken the bass line alone but he didn't then go & title what we know as "Billie Jean" to "I Can't Go For That" as well. Darryl Hall probably wouldn't have been as forgiving if that were the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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