ally Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Thanks Rich, for keeping the tourney going. We'll see who makes it into Sunday. Amazing with Tiger. He probably should be DQd. Wonder if CBS, who is broadcasting this had anything to do it? They wouldn't be too happy if the Masters ruling committee DQd Tiger and not allowed him to play further. Tiger going for a win brings in big ratings and $$$ for CBS or whoever is doing the broadcast. Especially, for the top golf event of the year. Tiger intentionally dropped his ball 2 yards back so he would land in front of the pin. To me that is cheating and he should of been DQ'd. Jack wouldn't of done that. He's gotten off with the two stroke penalty for two reasons. Firstly, the Masters committee deemed he did not do it intentionally allowing the new rule to come into play. Secondly, they claim they had already made their decision before Tigers post round comments and viewer call ins. However, Tigers post round comments certainly indicate that he did intentionally make his drop 2 yards further back. That definitely is cheating and regardless of what the Masters committee had deemed, Tiger , in the best interests of the game itself and the tournament, should have stepped up to the plate and withdrawn from the competition. If he ends up winning the tournament, it'll definitely be a tainted win for me but even if he doesn't, his continued participation has meant that another other golfer has missed out on an opportunity to play the weekend rounds and collect a paycheck for his efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Spot on Ally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) He's gotten off with the two stroke penalty for two reasons. Firstly, the Masters committee deemed he did not do it intentionally allowing the new rule to come into play. Secondly, they claim they had already made their decision before Tigers post round comments and viewer call ins. However, Tigers post round comments certainly indicate that he did intentionally make his drop 2 yards further back. That definitely is cheating and regardless of what the Masters committee had deemed, Tiger , in the best interests of the game itself and the tournament, should have stepped up to the plate and withdrawn from the competition. If he ends up winning the tournament, it'll definitely be a tainted win for me but even if he doesn't, his continued participation has meant that another other golfer has missed out on an opportunity to play the weekend rounds and collect a paycheck for his efforts. I don't see what the fuss is about, Woods did not really gain much of an advantage, if any with his drop shot six feet back. But what a shot to hit the pin in the first place. Edited April 14, 2013 by JTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planted Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I don't see what the fuss is about, Woods did not really gain much of an advantage, if any with his drop shot six feet back. But what a shot to hit the pin in the first place. Not to mention what Tiger has done for the game. Love him or hate him. Sunday of The Masters is a great way to spend a day. Tissues are always handy for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Not to mention what Tiger has done for the game. Love him or hate him. Sunday of The Masters is a great way to spend a day. Tissues are always handy for me. So right. Until Tiger came along many, including me rarely if ever watched Golf. His influence has been massive to the game. Roll on the British Open, only a month or so away. Next years Open at the Royal Liverpool Golf Course Hoylake Links [on the Wirral) is only five mins away from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I'm just sitting down to watch the final round. I would love to see Angel Cabrerra win his 2nd green jacket. Enjoy everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I don't see what the fuss is about, Woods did not really gain much of an advantage, if any with his drop shot six feet back. But what a shot to hit the pin in the first place. But he did gain AN advantage and there in lies the problem. Golf may contain some silly rules to some but they are the rules, they are there for a reason and they should apply to everyone. Still, I'm not going to let this ruin my enjoyment today. I've always been a fan of Tiger on the course I just hope he doesn't win today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhead Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 2013 MASTERS Thurs Fri Sat Sun BEST THREE POOL Chillumpuffer Justin Rose 70 71 75 Phil Mickelson 71 76 77 Luke Donald 71 72 75 Badgeholder Brendt Snedecker 70 70 69 Ricky Fowler 68 76 70 Bubba Watson 75 73 70 Jason Duffner 72 69 75 Charles Schwartzel 71 71 75 Ally Dustin Johnston 67 76 74 Bubba Watson 75 73 70 Rory Mcilroy 72 70 79 Brandt Snedeker 70 70 69 Babs Justin Rose 70 71 75 Rory McElroy 72 70 79 Bubba Watson 75 73 70 Lee Westwood 70 71 73 Phil Mickelson 71 76 77 Charl Schwartzel 71 71 75 Super Dave Lee Westwood 70 71 73 Phil Mickelson 71 76 77 Justin Rose 70 71 75 Steve Stircker 73 70 71 Charles Schwartzel 71 71 75 ebk Phil Mickelson 71 76 77 Brandt Snedeker 70 70 69 Bubba Watson 75 73 70 Rory Mcllroy 72 70 79 Adam Scott 69 72 69 FishHead Justin Rose 70 71 75 Matt Kuchar 68 75 69 Peter Hanson 72 75 76 Dustin Johnson 67 76 74 Charles Schwatzel 71 71 75 Walter Matt Kuchar 68 75 69 Rory McIIroy 72 70 79 Justin Rose 70 71 75 Charles Schwatzel 71 71 75 Strider Rory McIlroy 72 70 79 Phil Mickelson 71 76 77 Justin Rose 70 71 75 Bubba Watson 75 73 70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Adam does it! Great Masters! Too bad Adam doesn't show much emotion. He was so stoic, especially, when he sunk the putt on the 18th in regulation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planted Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Not sure who said it...but... "From Down Under to On top of the World"... Well done, Adam Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoopie Cat Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 He looked pretty emotional when that ball dropped in. Well done Adam Scott. First Aussie to wear the green jacket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Not sure who said it...but... "From Down Under to On top of the World"... Well done, Adam Scott. I heard that too. It was a former Aussie golfer on the CBS broadcast, Ian Baker Finch. Someone else, may have been Jim Nantz called him "The Wizard of OZ." Adam is one of my favorite pros and a real nice guy and very reserved. Actually, met him at the 2006 US Open (Winged Foot) and talked a little bit with him, while getting his autograph. Edited April 15, 2013 by SuperDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhead Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 CONGRATS! TO ADAM SCOTT, AUSTRALIA AND EBK/WINNER by 8 shots! ........thanks to everyone for playing! 2013 MASTERS BEST THREE POOL ebk Brandt Snedeker 70 70 69 75 284 Rory Mcllroy 72 70 79 69 290 Adam Scott 69 72 69 69 279 853 Ally Dustin Johnston 67 76 74 70 287 Rory Mcilroy 72 70 79 69 290 Brandt Snedeker 70 70 69 75 284 861 FishHead Matt Kuchar 68 75 69 73 285 Dustin Johnson 67 76 74 70 287 Charles Schwatzel 71 71 75 73 290 862 Badgeholder Brendt Snedecker 70 70 69 75 284 Jason Duffner 72 69 75 73 289 Charles Schwartzel 71 71 75 73 290 863 Super Dave Lee Westwood 70 71 73 71 285 Steve Stircker 73 70 71 75 289 Charles Schwartzel 71 71 75 73 290 864 Babs Rory McElroy 72 70 79 69 290 Lee Westwood 70 71 73 71 285 Charl Schwartzel 71 71 75 73 290 865 Walter Matt Kuchar 68 75 69 73 285 Rory McIIroy 72 70 79 69 290 Charles Schwatzel 71 71 75 73 290 865 Strider Rory McIlroy 72 70 79 69 290 Justin Rose 70 71 75 74 290 Bubba Watson 75 73 70 77 295 875 Chillumpuffer Justin Rose 70 71 75 74 290 Phil Mickelson 71 76 77 73 297 Luke Donald 71 72 75 72 290 877 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgeholder Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Cabrera missed my THIS MUCH.....ouch Great tourney, thanks Fishhead for your efforts, the pool was fun, let's do it again for the next major Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgeholder Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Oh, and check these photos. It would appear Tiger did not break any rules.... http://sports.yahoo.com/news/golf--photos-show-tiger-woods-may-not-have-deserved-a-two-stroke-penalty-204353354.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 It was a great tourney! Cabrera is such a cool guy. Almost won one for us old guys! He seemed genuinely happy for Adam Scott. Thanks Fishhead for all your work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 It was a great tourney! Cabrera is such a cool guy. Almost won one for us old guys! He seemed genuinely happy for Adam Scott. Thanks Fishhead for all your work. It sure was a great tournament. Cabrera and Scott are a couple of classy guy's ! Thanks Fishead . Great job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Well done Scotty and ebk. I watched all the last days play until my eyes shut as Scotty put his putt an the 18th away. Missed the play off but really enjoyed the days play despite the weather being very English like. I have decided to stop playing at the moment as I wait on the progress of Mrs CP. It may sound strange to do this but it is a game we like to play together and as my comps are on a Sunday I have removed my name for the time being. When, and only when, that my beloved can swing without pain, then I will be back out there. The weekends are precious and my view is that until such time, then we will go back to what we used to do before I took up the sport which is walking in the peaks Thanks again goes to Fishy who dedicated his time in setting this up. Next tourney is THE OPEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhead Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 My pleasure all... we'll do it again for the Open and the other two majors after that....If you have any suggestions or thoughts PM me and if we can make this better let's do it...cheers. I'm really happy for Adam Scott. Seems like a good guy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebk Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Thanks for setting this up Rich! It was fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhead Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 Thanks for setting this up Rich! It was fun you know how to pick em' ebk!...cheers, and again my pleasure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgeholder Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 And you know how Steve-O Williams must be loving it, "in your face, Tiger!", haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 And you know how Steve-O Williams must be loving it, "in your face, Tiger!", haha Imo, Stevie's the best on the tour. Tiger has to be missing his course knowledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) And you know how Steve-O Williams must be loving it, "in your face, Tiger!", haha In my opinion, the second-dumbest decision Tiger has made recently...I think it is obvious what his #1 dumbest decision was. Congratulations to Babs(our original victor) and ebk(our revised pool victor)! It couldn't happen to nicer people. My team has been taken out back and summarily shot for their disgraceful performance. Congrats to Adam Scott on his first Green Jacket! Aussie! Aussie! Aussie! Oi! Oi! Oi! As for the whole Tiger Woods thing, after finally seeing what happened on that 15th hole Friday, I think some of the Tiger-haters are overreacting. First, considering how great he hit his third shot, he already was assessed a penalty by the Golf Gods when it had the bad fortune of bouncing into Rae's Creek after hitting the pin. Secondly, Tiger lives for the Masters...there is no way he is going to jeopardize a chance to win and risk disqualification by intentionally breaking the rules. Thirdly, nobody in his playing group thought Tiger broke any rule on his drop; nobody among the Augusta officials on the course saw anything wrong with what Tiger did that would warrant a stroke-penalty or DQ. No, what happened was that some television viewer called in long after the fact and complained. Which would be like Rick watching a Bills or Orioles game and being able to call in and complain about an infraction and having a penalty assessed after-the-fact. In short, it's complete lunacy on the part of the PGA that they allow some schmuck at home to play tattle-tale. The NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, FIFA, F1, NASCAR...nobody else allows such shenanigans on the part of the tv viewer. Why the PGA does is a mystery. All of you whining that Tiger signed an incorrect scorecard, I beg to differ. The scorecard was correct at the time he signed it; nobody in Tiger's playing group raised objections to Tiger's drop and score at the end of the round, and even a review by the Augusta officials gave the all-clear to Tiger's drop. So his score was correct at the time he signed the card. It wasn't until after, when Bozo the TV-Viewer called in and they assessed the two-stroke penalty the next day, that Tiger's scorecard technically became incorrect. Sorry, I know Tiger is a polarizing figure now, and many want to see him fail, but he didn't deserve to get a DQ for that...the two-stroke penalty was enough. Which, when you consider the two-strokes he lost on the shot when it went in the water to begin with, meant Tiger lost four strokes on a nearly perfect approach shot to that 15th hole. Bubba Watson, who is a fan-favourite these days, also thinks the fact some guy can call in from home and have a player penalized is bogus. This was from ESPN.com: Bubba Watson: Viewer input not OK AUGUSTA, Ga. -- Defending champion Bubba Watson bristled Saturday at the idea a TV viewer can change the course of the Masters by calling in with their observations, saying "it shouldn't be allowed." Watson, after shooting a third-round 70 on Saturday to climb to 2 over, said unlike the TV viewer who raised the issue of Tiger Woods' ball drop Friday with Masters officials, he wouldn't even know who to call if he saw someone breaking a rule. "So I don't even know how these people get a number to call," Watson said. "And obviously they got more time on their hands than I do, because I don't know the number and I'm playing in the golf tournament." Watson said he was glad Rule 33 was adjusted. Masters officials decided to penalize Woods two strokes instead of disqualifying him. Woods was deemed to have taken an improper drop on the 15th hole during the second round at Augusta National on Friday when his approach shot hit the pin and bounced back into the water. "It should protect us," Watson said of the rule adjustment. "The sad thing is the high-profile player gets the camera on him at all times. A guy could break a rule and not know he broke the rule. Like me today, there's no cameras on me today, everybody could care less what I was doing." "So when somebody calls in like that, yeah, it shouldn't be that way, it shouldn't be allowed," Watson said. "Nobody calls in during the a basketball game or a football game." But Watson said TV viewers shouldn't be able to affect how players make rule decisions. Fred Couples called the rule adjustment "a blessing for every golf pro in the world." "We all know that we'll get the same ruling if it happens to one of us," said Couples, 1 shot back entering Saturday's round. Graeme McDowell, who at 5 over missed the cut by 1 shot, tweeted Saturday morning that he agreed with the penalty. "Take the fact that it was Tiger out of the equation and it is a fair ruling," McDowell posted to Twitter. Information from ESPN.com's Bob Harig was used in this report. Edited April 15, 2013 by Strider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Strider, I can find plenty to agree with in your above posts but, I'll have to draw the line at any of us here being motivated by a HATRED for Tiger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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