Walter Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Well golly... RIP Mr Nabors. Will miss you singing before the Indy 500 every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Gomer Pyle: USMC! We loved the show back then. R.I.P. Jim. How many boots have been labeled 'Pyle' in the Marines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryder1978 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 R.I.P Kate Steinle whose ILLEGAL ALIEN MURDERER got away with the killing in the Fruit and Nut capital of world San Francisco! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 7 hours ago, Stryder1978 said: R.I.P Kate Steinle whose ILLEGAL ALIEN MURDERER got away with the killing in the Fruit and Nut capital of world San Francisco! Sanctuary, ya know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, Stryder1978 said: R.I.P Kate Steinle whose ILLEGAL ALIEN MURDERER got away with the killing in the Fruit and Nut capital of world San Francisco! The man did not murder anyone, he picked up a gun he found which accidentally discharged, ricochet off of a wall, and struck Ms. Steinle in the back. That is not murder, that is involuntary manslaughter. Very big difference. Ps. If the man was a white natural born American citizen would you still consider it murder? If that man was your brother would you want him convicted of murder? Edited December 2, 2017 by IpMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 hour ago, IpMan said: The man did not murder anyone, he picked up a gun he found which accidentally discharged, ricochet off of a wall, and struck Ms. Steinle in the back. That is not murder, that is involuntary manslaughter. Very big difference. Ps. If the man was a white natural born American citizen would you still consider it murder? If that man was your brother would you want him convicted of murder? Accidentally discharged?! No, the seven-time convicted, five time deported illegal immigrant felon PULLED THE TRIGGER and in so doing killed her in cold blood. Justice would have been served if he was convicted of second degree murder, or plea bargained to involuntary manslaughter. It is my earnest hope this verdict leads to a total loss of federal funding for sanctuary cities and the most aggressive deportation policy/tactics the United States has ever seen. Kick all of these recidivist maggots out now and execute them at the border if they attempt to return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryingbluerain Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 3 hours ago, IpMan said: If that man was your brother would you want him convicted of murder? If Kate Steinle was your sister would you want him convicted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BledZabbath Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 These things need a reason of thought and not just a trigger pulled, or it’ll be like back in the ol West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 13 hours ago, cryingbluerain said: If Kate Steinle was your sister would you want him convicted? You did not answer the question, though I will gladly answer yours: Yes, of involuntary manslaughter as that is what the evidence proves. Of murder, absolutely not as he is not guilty of murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 16 hours ago, SteveAJones said: Accidentally discharged?! No, the seven-time convicted, five time deported illegal immigrant felon PULLED THE TRIGGER and in so doing killed her in cold blood. Justice would have been served if he was convicted of second degree murder, or plea bargained to involuntary manslaughter. It is my earnest hope this verdict leads to a total loss of federal funding for sanctuary cities and the most aggressive deportation policy/tactics the United States has ever seen. Kick all of these recidivist maggots out now and execute them at the border if they attempt to return. Did you read his rap sheet Steve? All convictions were for either non-violent drug offenses or for being in the country illegally. He was never convicted of a violent offense nor ever charged. The man has a zero history of violence. He may be here illegally, and he may be a scumbag, but the evidence shows he is not a murderer. So unless you feel non-citizens should be convicted of crimes they are not guilty of simply for being in America illegally, I am not sure what your problem or issue is with the verdict? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) On 11/30/2017 at 5:59 PM, The Rover said: R.I.P. Jim Nabors On 11/30/2017 at 6:30 PM, Walter said: Well golly... RIP Mr Nabors. Will miss you singing before the Indy 500 every year. Surprise-Surprise-Surprise! He was a great singer. I, too, grew up watching "Gomer Pyle". Not so much for Gomer, though...Sgt. Carter was my man. I wonder what the Indy 500 will do now? Maybe just play a tape of Jim Nabors singing? Edited December 3, 2017 by Strider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryingbluerain Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 hour ago, IpMan said: Yes, of involuntary manslaughter as that is what the evidence proves. Yep, him as well as the the mayor and the 11 city supervisors for running an illegal sanctuary city which directly contributed to Kate's death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 hours ago, IpMan said: Did you read his rap sheet Steve? All convictions were for either non-violent drug offenses or for being in the country illegally. He was never convicted of a violent offense nor ever charged. The man has a zero history of violence. He may be here illegally, and he may be a scumbag, but the evidence shows he is not a murderer. So unless you feel non-citizens should be convicted of crimes they are not guilty of simply for being in America illegally, I am not sure what your problem or issue is with the verdict? After striking the woman with a gunshot, he disposed of the weapon into the bay and fled the scene on foot. He claimed in his confession that he was aiming at a seal. By his confession, and the forensic evidence, his intent was to commit an act of violence and this was not "accidental discharge". A conviction of involuntary manslaughter is least he should have received. He IS here illegally (again) and he IS a scumbag--there's no maybe about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 For us Limeys in Australia....in laymen’s terms - what is a Sanctuary City? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Never mind,I understand now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 15 hours ago, Strider said: Surprise-Surprise-Surprise! He was a great singer. I, too, grew up watching "Gomer Pyle". Not so much for Gomer, though...Sgt. Carter was my man. I wonder what the Indy 500 will do now? Maybe just play a tape of Jim Nabors singing? They played a tape before. He hasn’t sung it in person in a couple of years. Great singer. Good man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apantherfrommd Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 On 12/1/2017 at 9:28 AM, Stryder1978 said: R.I.P Kate Steinle whose ILLEGAL ALIEN MURDERER got away with the killing in the Fruit and Nut capital of world San Francisco! So sad. After shot Kate said "Daddy help me". I feel bad for her dad who couldn't do anything. She died in her dad's arms. Of course I'm very sad for her mom too. She had just changed her Facebook page to say "If it feels good to your soul, just do it." R.I.P. Kate Steinle +1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apantherfrommd Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) On 12/2/2017 at 5:26 PM, IpMan said: All convictions were for either non-violent drug offenses or for being in the country illegally. He was never convicted of a violent offense nor ever charged. The man has a zero history of violence. He may be here illegally, and he may be a scumbag, but the evidence shows he is not a murderer. So unless you feel non-citizens should be convicted of crimes they are not guilty of simply for being in America illegally, I am not sure what your problem or issue is with the verdict? Murderer or not, I guess it is a legitimate question to ask if being in the country illegally is a crime? Yes it is, or it wouldn't be illegal. Is enforcing a crime against someone being here illegally "fascist" or "upholding the law for protection for citizens of the country"? A young lady taking a walk with her dad would still be alive. Edited December 4, 2017 by apantherfrommd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedZeppfan1977 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 12/2/2017 at 7:05 PM, Strider said: Surprise-Surprise-Surprise! He was a great singer. I, too, grew up watching "Gomer Pyle". Not so much for Gomer, though...Sgt. Carter was my man. I wonder what the Indy 500 will do now? Maybe just play a tape of Jim Nabors singing? For some reason I thought he had already left us. But anyway I watched that show a million times back in the day. Sgt. Carter screaming at him. It was pretty close as to which preferred between Gomer and Hogans Heroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) On 12/4/2017 at 1:27 AM, apantherfrommd said: Murderer or not, I guess it is a legitimate question to ask if being in the country illegally is a crime? Yes it is, or it wouldn't be illegal. Is enforcing a crime against someone being here illegally "fascist" or "upholding the law for protection for citizens of the country"? A young lady taking a walk with her dad would still be alive. I agree Andy, however you cannot convict a person of murder based solely on their immigration status, there has to be evidence. The evidence showed involuntary manslaughter and he should have been tried as such and if he were, he would have been convicted. Due to his prior convictions he would get the max so he likely would have seen 12 -15 years anyway. The prosecutor is the one at fault here, no one else. She should have pushed for involuntary manslaughter. Even though the ADA allowed a verdict of involuntary manslaughter for the jury to consider, she based her case around a 2nd degree murder conviction and never offered a case for involuntary manslaughter. If I were the DA I would fire this arrogant jackass. Edited December 6, 2017 by IpMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apantherfrommd Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 28 minutes ago, IpMan said: I agree Andy, however you cannot convict a person of murder based solely on their immigration status, there has to be evidence. The evidence showed involuntary manslaughter and he should have been tried as such and if he were, he would have been convicted. Due to his prior convictions he would get the max so he likely would have seen 12 -15 years anyway. The prosecutor is the one at fault here, no one else. She should have pushed for involuntary manslaughter. Even though the ADA allowed a verdict of involuntary manslaughter for the jury to consider, she based her case around a 2nd degree murder conviction and never offered a case for involuntary manslaughter. If I were the DA I would fire this arrogant jackass. Hey Ipman. How's it going?! The best I hope. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) Johnny Halliday (The French Elvis) Edited December 6, 2017 by SteveAJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) ^^^None of those work in the U.S. R.I.P. Johnny Hallyday. 74 from lung cancer. A Gallic Giant. 😢 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42247551 Another one of the many greats to whom Jimmy Page lent his talents. Sometime between the meltdown of the Yardbirds and the rise of Led Zeppelin, Jimmy Page found time to play on this Johnny Hallyday scorcher from 1968. Elvis never got this psychedelic. Edited December 6, 2017 by Strider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 On 12/2/2017 at 9:33 PM, Xolo1974 said: For us Limeys in Australia....in laymen’s terms - what is a Sanctuary City? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Strider said: Sometime between the meltdown of the Yardbirds and the rise of Led Zeppelin, Jimmy Page found time to play on this Johnny Hallyday scorcher from 1968. Mick Jones of Foreigner also collaborated with Johnny in the early 1970s. They reminisce about it in this clip: Edited December 6, 2017 by SteveAJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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