Black Dog

[Geezer]

Hi there.

Is there any live version of Black Dog where the band gets the part from 0:39 to 0:53 right?

http://youtu.be/RfK6dvZAHTo?t=39s

[BONZOLED942]

just came on the site today and Black Dog is playing on the radio here at work and i saw this thread. crazy

[clw]

all I ever hear on radio is Kashmir,STH and whole lotta love,they are missing out on so many other good ones

[Glyn]

Hi there.

Is there any live version of Black Dog where the band gets the part from 0:39 to 0:53 right?

TSRTS sounds about right to me. Any example of when they mess it up?

[Geezer]

TSRTS sounds about right to me. Any example of when they mess it up?

No. Listen closely to that part on the studio version.

[Melcórë]

...Huh? You need to be more clear -- what are they getting "wrong"?

[Led Dirigible]

It's not "wrong". They just pay it different from the studio version. If I understand it correctly, in the studio version of Black Dog, Bonham is playing a straight 4:4 beat, while Page and Jones play in 5:4 over him. In live versions, Bonham, Page, and Jones all play in 4:4, avoiding probable song derailings brought on by complex time changes.

[Strider]

It's not "wrong". They just pay it different from the studio version. If I understand it correctly, in the studio version of Black Dog, Bonham is playing a straight 4:4 beat, while Page and Jones play in 5:4 over him. In live versions, Bonham, Page, and Jones all play in 4:4, avoiding probable song derailings brought on by complex time changes.

Sorry, I don't agree with that at all...every live version I have heard sounds like they are playing the same timing as the studio: Jimmy and Jones in 5/4 and Bonzo in 4/4. Some versions might be played faster while others more slower, but the timing remains the same.

As to the OP's question: I don't hear any thing "wrong" in live performances of this section...at least not the ones I have listened to. Like another poster said, you're going to have to be a little more clearer about what you mean by "wrong".

Oh, and FYI, that youtube clip you posted doesn't work.

[Led Dirigible]

Sorry, I don't agree with that at all...every live version I have heard sounds like they are playing the same timing as the studio: Jimmy and Jones in 5/4 and Bonzo in 4/4. Some versions might be played faster while others more slower, but the timing remains the same.

Hmm. After listening to it again, I see you're right. I don't know why I thought they were in 4:4. Aside from my incorrect assumption that they were all in 4:4, I really don't see anything that they were doing wrong.

[Geezer]

Sorry, I don't agree with that at all...every live version I have heard sounds like they are playing the same timing as the studio: Jimmy and Jones in 5/4 and Bonzo in 4/4. Some versions might be played faster while others more slower, but the timing remains the same.

As to the OP's question: I don't hear any thing "wrong" in live performances of this section...at least not the ones I have listened to. Like another poster said, you're going to have to be a little more clearer about what you mean by "wrong".

Oh, and FYI, that youtube clip you posted doesn't work.

That clip is just the studio version of Black Dog. What I mean is that the three band members are playing in a perfect sync (if that makes sense) on the studio version. Every version I've listened to has either Page going slightly sloppy on the riff or Bonham phoning it in.

[ledzepfilm]

You're probably just hearing Bonham slightly slow down for a minute on the studio version just before they break into the main riff again.