TashaZoso16 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I am a session player at the moment and play bass for a band called Dollhouse Riot! https://www.facebook.com/xTasha.Reidx Please give my page a like for me?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagittarius Rising Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Just as long as you are NOT Le Quebecois I will give you a like, however if you are...forget it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecube Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Racist much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagittarius Rising Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Racist much? Not racist at all, it is the Le Quebecois who are the racists. My wife and her family were born and bred in Pointe Claire, English but fluent in French. When the Le Quebecois took over and forced everyone to speak French, advertise in French only, and gave the English population serious shit until they hightailed it for Toronto (like my wife), that is what I call racism. Now here we are, 30 years later and a bi-lingual IGA worker is yelled at by her supervisor for daring to speak English in the goddamn break room ON HER TIME!!! I quote, When she announced she was leaving, the employee, Meaghan Moran, recorded a conversation with her two superiors in which they explained the French-only rule. “If we permit languages other than French to be spoken, what will happen in the employees’ room?” a woman is heard asking in the recording. “We’ll have a ghetto. We’ll have a small group of Spanish, a small group of English.” You dare call me racist, the Le Quebecois is and has been openly racist since it's inception. I frequent Montreal to visit my mother in-law (who refuses to leave even though it has come to the point where speaking French is no longer enough, one now must be French-Canadien otherwise they are shunned) often and when we go outside of Pointe Claire the hatred for the English is palatable. Just for shits I would speak English when patronizing establishments and guess what??? I was treated like shit and ignored. Even when I spoke French, which I am passible in but not fluent, it was about 60-40, that is 60% of the time I was treated the same as if I was speaking English. I think Montreal is one of the prettiest cities in the world, however having state sanctioned racism as a policy will eventually destroy Montreal and the Le Quebecois. Prior to 1979 Toronto was a medium sized city, once Le Quebecois took over, all the English run business left for Toronto, thrusting Toronto into a renaissance and making it the economic powerhouse of Canada. What has Quebec done??? Not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypeO Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Not racist at all, it is the Le Quebecois who are the racists. My wife and her family were born and bred in Pointe Claire, English but fluent in French. When the Le Quebecois took over and forced everyone to speak French, advertise in French only, and gave the English population serious shit until they hightailed it for Toronto (like my wife), that is what I call racism. Now here we are, 30 years later and a bi-lingual IGA worker is yelled at by her supervisor for daring to speak English in the goddamn break room ON HER TIME!!! I quote, When she announced she was leaving, the employee, Meaghan Moran, recorded a conversation with her two superiors in which they explained the French-only rule. “If we permit languages other than French to be spoken, what will happen in the employees’ room?” a woman is heard asking in the recording. “We’ll have a ghetto. We’ll have a small group of Spanish, a small group of English.” You dare call me racist, the Le Quebecois is and has been openly racist since it's inception. I frequent Montreal to visit my mother in-law (who refuses to leave even though it has come to the point where speaking French is no longer enough, one now must be French-Canadien otherwise they are shunned) often and when we go outside of Pointe Claire the hatred for the English is palatable. Just for shits I would speak English when patronizing establishments and guess what??? I was treated like shit and ignored. Even when I spoke French, which I am passible in but not fluent, it was about 60-40, that is 60% of the time I was treated the same as if I was speaking English. I think Montreal is one of the prettiest cities in the world, however having state sanctioned racism as a policy will eventually destroy Montreal and the Le Quebecois. Prior to 1979 Toronto was a medium sized city, once Le Quebecois took over, all the English run business left for Toronto, thrusting Toronto into a renaissance and making it the economic powerhouse of Canada. What has Quebec done??? Not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecube Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Perhaps it's because of the "ordinary" racism Québec has endured for 200+ years from english Canada. You won't see me shed a tear for your "ordeals". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Perhaps it's because of the "ordinary" racism Québec has endured for 200+ years from english Canada. You won't see me shed a tear for your "ordeals". Touché! A sad fact that is often ignored by the majority of Canadians. That being said...retribution is never the answer, and leads only to further bad blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TashaZoso16 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 Just as long as you are NOT Le Quebecois I will give you a like, however if you are...forget it!!! I totally understand. I am not a "Quebecois", I do not support any of it. I live in the province of Quebec, yes, but sooner or later I will move away from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagittarius Rising Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 ^ I apologize as I did not mean to get political, just that this has affected my family. My mother in-law is a very sweet woman and at 78 years old she feels her city has abandoned her. My sister in-law is scared shitless she will lose her job after 22 years because of this. Anyway, I wish you nothing but the best and I will have to check you out when I next go to Montreal in about three months. Nothing is more beautiful than Montreal in the fall, especially Mt. Royal Park...breathtaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janvier Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Not sure what the problem is, Montréal is a multicultural, multilingual and multiracial city. The fact that someone lives in Montréal makes this person a Québécois (or Québécoise) because they live within the provinces' boundaries. On the issue of being fluent in French it appears as though many people have quite different definitions of language proficiency. I studied French for over five years and I obtained a DELF as early as 1998 but when I set foot in a French speaking province around 2003 I discovered that I really didn't understand much, so I had to learn the language again, from the very beginning. The fact that people would only communicate with me in French was an intellectual challenge rather than an offense. Those were the rules of the place where I was living at the time, I thought, if I don't like the rules then I should just move someplace else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagittarius Rising Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Not sure what the problem is, Montréal is a multicultural, multilingual and multiracial city. The fact that someone lives in Montréal makes this person a Québécois (or Québécoise) because they live within the provinces' boundaries. On the issue of being fluent in French it appears as though many people have quite different definitions of language proficiency. I studied French for over five years and I obtained a DELF as early as 1998 but when I set foot in a French speaking province around 2003 I discovered that I really didn't understand much, so I had to learn the language again, from the very beginning. The fact that people would only communicate with me in French was an intellectual challenge rather than an offense. Those were the rules of the place where I was living at the time, I thought, if I don't like the rules then I should just move someplace else. That would be fine if it were not for the fact the Quebecois changed the rules, prior to their power grab it was truly bi-lingual, now it is French only for all intent and purpose. Further, living within the boundary of Montreal does not make one Quebecois anymore than my living in Arizona makes me a Republican or English only advocate. Finally, did you ever think the reason why you were not "fluent" in French after such intense study was because French-Canadien is a very different language than classical French. Kind of like Central-American Spanish is very different than classical Spanish. This is one of the reasons the French themselves are not too keen on French-Canadiens as they feel their language and culture have been bastardized. Not my opinion on the last part there, simply observation from several native French folk I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 We get it -- you hate Quebec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecube Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 That would be fine if it were not for the fact the Quebecois changed the rules, prior to their power grab it was truly bi-lingual, now it is French only for all intent and purpose. Further, living within the boundary of Montreal does not make one Quebecois anymore than my living in Arizona makes me a Republican or English only advocate. Finally, did you ever think the reason why you were not "fluent" in French after such intense study was because French-Canadien is a very different language than classical French. Kind of like Central-American Spanish is very different than classical Spanish. This is one of the reasons the French themselves are not too keen on French-Canadiens as they feel their language and culture have been bastardized. Not my opinion on the last part there, simply observation from several native French folk I know. That's blatantly false. When the anglos had the upper hand on the province's power levers, it was mostly "speak white" in Montréal and I don't mean french. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypeO Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 This is now the Goof On Canada Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I am a session player at the moment and play bass for a band called Dollhouse Riot! https://www.facebook.com/xTasha.Reidx Please give my page a like for me?? Done Tasha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireOpal Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Happy Canada Day to our northern friends 'n neighbors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypeO Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Oh yeah, and LIKE'd, Tasha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagittarius Rising Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 We get it -- you hate Quebec. No no, I really like Quebec and Montreal actually, what I don't like is bigotry. Go Tasha!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TashaZoso16 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 No no, I really like Quebec and Montreal actually, what I don't like is bigotry. Go Tasha!!! Ah thank you so much!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldManWith4Sticks Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I'll like ya! Good onya girl. All the best for your future music career. me?: 4003 Ric, Parker Fly, Ovations, Washburn mandos etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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