thebeatlesrock63 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The performances on all songs were top notch and the remastered version gave us a vastly superior and (!) an extended Dazed and Confused. So sure, some songs lost their original duration but on the flip side we got some new songs. Who doesn't like new live premium quality songs? If the main issue was the length then there was always the original album. So, why the hate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magerogue Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We don't hate the album, we hate the mix, the remastered version to be more specific. I'm very fond of the vinyl version, one of my first albums was TSRTS on vinyl and there are plenty of things that the vinyl version has that got lost when remastering the 2007 version. You should go to a website called The Garden Tapes, the guy has all the information you need about what got lost and what was added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeatlesrock63 Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 MY GOOD LORD! What the heck has Jimmy done? The whole album is a mess. Not a single song in it's entirety! All a big mash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantpothead Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I love The Song Remains The Same, I don't know any Led Zeppelin fan who doesn't, as it was probably their first official LIVE release.Much better than any crappy bootlegs that I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfman Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I love it. TSRTS and Live At Leeds are my two favorite live albums ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhotter74 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I love the original mixes - but the new release butchered "Celebration Day", and i can't get past that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Only Way To Fly Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I tend to agree - IDK if its just because I had the original TSRTS for so long & played it so often & loud that the "new stuff" in the new mix kind of ruins it for me. I LOVE both versions of Celebration Day - but can not stand the remixed version of WLL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reswati Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Most people in my street hate the album so much because they had to listen to it a zillion times since I got into the house I am living in. Not everybody has the same taste, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSeven Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 How does Dazed sound better/longer? I don't notice the difference on Remastered Dazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DropDown Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I don't hate TSRTS for sure...it has, IMHO, the best version of SIBLY ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Duck Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 The film, The Song Remains the Same, was a wasted opportunity, imo. A documentary that follows the biggest band of the era at their zenith could have been a compelling film in the hands of the right director. It wasn't. The only intriguing part of the film for me was John Paul Jones' fantasy sequence. Page, Plant, Bonham and Grant's fantasy sequences all made a certain sense given their interests at the time. However, Jones masked marauder fantasy came out of nowhere. It made me wonder if he was sending up Plant's fantasy sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottedplant Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I don't hate TSRTS for sure...it has, IMHO, the best version of SIBLY ever.I'm with you Dropsie, That is my favorite version of SIBLY. So beautiful - Jimmy's intro gives me goose bumps every time I hear it. Also love the Rain Song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DropDown Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I'm with you Dropsie, That is my favorite version of SIBLY. So beautiful - Jimmy's intro gives me goose bumps every time I hear it. Also love the Rain Song. The whole run-up to the song...when RP goes on about the cosmic energy...then the guitar intro hits you like a tidal wave...spine-tingling, always! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael678 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I don't care what i think for the album (old and new) except its just fantastic!! (film and album) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmtomh Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I share many folks' distaste for what was done to a few key songs on the 2007 remaster: Celebration Day (amazing original ending solo replaced with inferior one); No Quarter (great stuff inexplicably edited out); and Whole Lotta Love (The Crunge sequence edited out in a really ham-fisted way). And I know others have complaints about a strange little edit in Dazed, and some editing choices in Moby Dick - though honestly, I don't care much about those edits. But all that said, I really like the 2007 version of TSRTS. As the OP said, it gave us 6 new songs. And it's easy to replace three screwed-up tracks with the versions from the original. In fact, there's a fan version by a guy named Heywood that combines the best of the two versions, along with a number of other fixes and little add-ons, and makes the whole thing sound pretty much seamless. Highly recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudslider Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I certainly don't dislike TSRTS film / soundtrack; it Zeppelin, but its my least favorite of all their releases and the only release that I feel that is dated when "watched" today. The film has not stood the test of time like their music. Just MHO. The fantasy sequences must have been hard to live down; pretty silly self-indulgent stuff, but again, its Zeppelin so who's complaining! I wish it was a full concert start to finish with no edits and goofy fantasy crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil. Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I tend to agree - IDK if its just because I had the original TSRTS for so long & played it so often & loud that the "new stuff" in the new mix kind of ruins it for me. I LOVE both versions of Celebration Day - but can not stand the remixed version of WLL! This in a nutshell is what I think, you grow up with a album that even the slight changes, make you go hold on. Give it twenty years or so and I will have worn in the new version.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth and beauty Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Disco Duck, I agree the film was a wasted opportunity. But it's testament to the way Zep so jealously guarded their privacy. Even in the past year, amazing documentary material has emerged of the Stones and David Bowie: all were performing at a time of inventive and sometimes intimate film-making. Peter Grant/ Led Zep would have been fully aware of the possibilities: they must have knowingly turned them down. No doubt the intention was to keep the focus on the music, but it's sad to think that although we hear hints of the music hidden in Jimmy's vaults, there's no evidence that JP or anyone else is sitting on any more film archive . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottedplant Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 I don't think anyone hates TSRTS. Most people, myself included, just don't like the production. The music is great, just not the fantasy sequences. It really isn't their best live album, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anodizingstatic Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 ^ +1 Fantasy sequences are about all I hate. You're talking a difference of viewer quality/experience vs. filming integrity. I prefer original footage, but sometimes things HAD to be re-filmed to make the cinema let alone keep the viewer from leaving the movie theater. The only people who would notice it was are...us, the higher level fans (or a person who has seen it many times). There's a reason for liking original footage though.... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1973fan Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Can't think why any LZ fan would hate it. For me, it gets better and better every time I watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 It's not that I don't like it, it's the over-production that I hate. Too much mock Shepperton footage, vocal overdubs, night editing with varying levels of success, mix of three nights of footage, and fantasy sequences. Does NOT give the live experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
in_the_evening Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I don't hate TSRTS, but I don't like it and I don't go out of my way to listen to it. Dazed is way too long, same for Moby Dick. Never been a big fan of Rain Song or No Quarter, and with only 9 songs, i was disappointed in the whole thing. I definitely had bootlegs that put this to shame. The movie was only about 50 times worse. A complete total waste of time. What should have been a thoruoghly mind-blowing documentary, turns out to be a juvenile mish mash of silly fantasy sequences and not very inspired performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the chase Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I love it for what it is.. But I'd take real 1 camera concert footage that completely matches over 3 nights mixed together any day of the week. It's kind of hard for me to watch TSRTS these days because live footage should match lick for lick.. cymbal crash for cymbal crash.. Otherwise, it bugs the hell out of me. Fantasy sections.. I love Jimmy Page's and John Bonham's. I like Peter Grant's and can tolerate JPJ's. I don't like Robert Plant's at all, but Virginia Parker is incredibly beautiful. I love Robert's home footage. The backstage footage is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP78 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 i like JPJ's fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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