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Dark Lord, great story and how great that you met them and spent a little time with Jimmy. :peace:

I felt compelled to say something so here it goes...There have been numerous threads here that always seem to get to a point of bashing Robert. They obviously have a mutual respect for one another musically. I think that goes without saying. But for people to judge them because of interviews decades ago without REALLY knowing them is very sad IMHO! Then to bring up the death of little Karac again..for all we know they didn't go as to not turn it into a media circus. Who really knows? It's personal!

I love them both musically. Jimmy will always be my favorite guitarist and Robert will always be my favorite vocalist. I have followed this band for most of my life, along with their own individual careers. Since I do not know them personally I can only speak to things that I have heard in interviews and magazines..but IMHO publicly the greatest thing done that showed the most disrespect (again musically) was for Jonesy to find out the way he did that Page & Plant were working together.

Threads like this :(

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Stairway was only asking why. I have always wonder why too. Sometimes their love for each other is obvious, other times, though I love Robert dearly, how can Robert say these things in public. It makes me feel worse for Jimmy as he has to deal with the other end. It also baffles me to be honost. Though their love hate relationship has gone on and on since the end of Zeppelin.

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Dark Lord, great story and how great that you met them and spent a little time with Jimmy. :peace:

I felt compelled to say something so here it goes...There have been numerous threads here that always seem to get to a point of bashing Robert. They obviously have a mutual respect for one another musically. I think that goes without saying. But for people to judge them because of interviews decades ago without REALLY knowing them is very sad IMHO! Then to bring up the death of little Karac again..for all we know they didn't go as to not turn it into a media circus. Who really knows? It's personal!

I love them both musically. Jimmy will always be my favorite guitarist and Robert will always be my favorite vocalist. I have followed this band for most of my life, along with their own individual careers. Since I do not know them personally I can only speak to things that I have heard in interviews and magazines..but IMHO publicly the greatest thing done that showed the most disrespect (again musically) was for Jonesy to find out the way he did that Page & Plant were working together.

Threads like this :(

Well said Deborah as always! :yourock::bravo: Nothing more, that any of us can say on this as you summed it up so well! :goodpost:

I also felt it was kind of odd how JPJ found out about the Unledded project. Jimmy and Robert should have contacted him first or at least asked him, if he had any interest in being part of the project. :thumbdown:

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^^ Hi aen27!

I only gave my opinion. I meant no disrespect to anyone, but there have been enough of these threads. Rips my heart out as I prefer to keep them in my mind as magnificent as they were/are as a band. :peace:

Edit: Thanks Dave :yourock:

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^^ Hi aen27!

I only gave my opinion. I meant no disrespect to anyone, but there have been enough of these threads. Rips my heart out as I prefer to keep them in my mind as magnificent as they were/are as a band. :peace:

Edit: Thanks Dave :yourock:

I understand, though the question makes one wonder about these things, to use Jimmy's phrasing. :)
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That second youtube post is incredible.

Robert barely had his coat off before he threw out a Whitesnake dig.. To me it seems childish.

We get it or we got it... They copied the Zeppelin recipe...Well big deal.

I have no idea why he had to gripe so much about it. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery..

Especially since he refused to do it.. I said the same thing about Eric Clapton.. You can't stop a movement in music because you stop.. IT WON'T GO AWAY... just because you stop doing it..

His Jimmy "dissing" I think was equal parts concern and annoyance. He must have been pretty pissed off at how rough Jimmy was at times. Robert got clean in 1977... Jimmy obviously didn't. A reformed drug user is like a former smoker telling everyone else that smokes they should quit... Not a bad thing, but the digs can get annoying..

I think he was also enjoying the independence of having a solo career... He loves being his own boss.. loves saying whatever the hell he wants. Whatever it was, it paled next to his treatment of John Paul Jones..

But yes.... Like Deborah said... it's all very old news.

The 3 of them seem to be getting along great these days and that's a beautiful thing.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XElRzziiKbw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZojBxRFxidY

I barely even heard Jimmy send any digs to Robert except once in an interview with Coverdale for a swedish show once. But Robert seemed to continuously send shots at Pagey, thoughts?

Actually, I think Plant was rather circumspect in his comments about Page in the two interview snippets, given what we now know about Led Zeppelin's final years. Jimmy Page, by most accounts, could be very difficult back then. Peter Grant didn't help matters by always favoring Page over the other band members.

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Kenog, aen27, pottedplant, and DeborahJ, thanks for the kind words, and welcomes. It is a pleasure to be here, and to be able to share my story with kindred spirits. It is a very special memory for me.

There is one more part to the story that I thought was worth sharing, as it was kind of funny. After signing autographs, Jimmy, his assistant, and I, walked to his rental car which had been parked below a lamp standard. Jimmy reached for his door handle to open the door, and suddenly stopped. A horrified look came over his face that caught my attention. I looked too, and saw that a seagull had pooped from the lamp standard, and it literally covered Jimmy's door handle in a stinky, milky mess. I am talking a big poop here. Jimmy looked at me as though I was supposed to do something about it. Well, without missing a beat, I pulled a leather riding glove out of my pocket (that's all I had on me that might do the trick), and wiped down the handle for him. He was very thankful, and I think, genuinely touched by the gesture. When we parted ways that day, he smiled and waved , and repeated "Bye Dan" several times. I looked in my side view mirror as I drove away, and he was still waving......and smiling.

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:hysterical: Nice story Dan. Thanks for sharing this with us - we love it when someone has met a band member. (Good that you ended up being of practical help to JPP)

Kenog, aen27, pottedplant, and DeborahJ, thanks for the kind words, and welcomes. It is a pleasure to be here, and to be able to share my story with kindred spirits. It is a very special memory for me.

There is one more part to the story that I thought was worth sharing, as it was kind of funny. After signing autographs, Jimmy, his assistant, and I, walked to his rental car which had been parked below a lamp standard. Jimmy reached for his door handle to open the door, and suddenly stopped. A horrified look came over his face that caught my attention. I looked too, and saw that a seagull had pooped from the lamp standard, and it literally covered Jimmy's door handle in a stinky, milky mess. I am talking a big poop here. Jimmy looked at me as though I was supposed to do something about it. Well, without missing a beat, I pulled a leather riding glove out of my pocket (that's all I had on me that might do the trick), and wiped down the handle for him. He was very thankful, and I think, genuinely touched by the gesture. When we parted ways that day, he smiled and waved , and repeated "Bye Dan" several times. I looked in my side view mirror as I drove away, and he was still waving......and smiling.

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Kenog, aen27, pottedplant, and DeborahJ, thanks for the kind words, and welcomes. It is a pleasure to be here, and to be able to share my story with kindred spirits. It is a very special memory for me.

There is one more part to the story that I thought was worth sharing, as it was kind of funny. After signing autographs, Jimmy, his assistant, and I, walked to his rental car which had been parked below a lamp standard. Jimmy reached for his door handle to open the door, and suddenly stopped. A horrified look came over his face that caught my attention. I looked too, and saw that a seagull had pooped from the lamp standard, and it literally covered Jimmy's door handle in a stinky, milky mess. I am talking a big poop here. Jimmy looked at me as though I was supposed to do something about it. Well, without missing a beat, I pulled a leather riding glove out of my pocket (that's all I had on me that might do the trick), and wiped down the handle for him. He was very thankful, and I think, genuinely touched by the gesture. When we parted ways that day, he smiled and waved , and repeated "Bye Dan" several times. I looked in my side view mirror as I drove away, and he was still waving......and smiling.

That is hilarious....!!!

And as someone who lives in your neck of the woods and has had my own car hit by many a light standard squatting seagull......I am surprised one riding glove did the trick.... :lol:

That was certainly most thoughtful of you to do that for Jimmy !

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Kenog, aen27, pottedplant, and DeborahJ, thanks for the kind words, and welcomes. It is a pleasure to be here, and to be able to share my story with kindred spirits. It is a very special memory for me.

There is one more part to the story that I thought was worth sharing, as it was kind of funny. After signing autographs, Jimmy, his assistant, and I, walked to his rental car which had been parked below a lamp standard. Jimmy reached for his door handle to open the door, and suddenly stopped. A horrified look came over his face that caught my attention. I looked too, and saw that a seagull had pooped from the lamp standard, and it literally covered Jimmy's door handle in a stinky, milky mess. I am talking a big poop here. Jimmy looked at me as though I was supposed to do something about it. Well, without missing a beat, I pulled a leather riding glove out of my pocket (that's all I had on me that might do the trick), and wiped down the handle for him. He was very thankful, and I think, genuinely touched by the gesture. When we parted ways that day, he smiled and waved , and repeated "Bye Dan" several times. I looked in my side view mirror as I drove away, and he was still waving......and smiling.

What a great ending! Thanks for sharing and welcome! :D

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What a funny ending to a great story. As someone said above, they are all getting along great now, and that is a wonderful thing to their fans. I love them all and I don't believe anyone has bashed Robert; just given their honest opinions and feelings, etc.

Thanks again

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There have been numerous threads here that always seem to get to a point of bashing Robert.

Unfortunately, there's a reason for that: Robert continually makes himself a target.

The Dark Lord/Dan's story was very nice -- I'd love to meet either of them, if only to say "I'm a huge fan"!

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Okay, I promise to stop boring you all with my "meeting" posts, but I wanted to share this as a final post on the topic: one of my mementos of the meeting. I would love to re-connect with Jimmy and discuss that day, as I am positive that there would be some funny memories and laughs shared, and believe it or not, he said that he was looking forward to meeting my wife the next day, but unfortunately that never happened, despite the "all access" passes. I can tell you that he has an impeccable memory, and would remember this meeting, as he shared some "Vancouver" stories with me from his Yardbirds days, and I was shocked at how he recalled the most mundane things with such vivid detail. Good Great guy that Jimmy!

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Dan,

Trust me, we are anything but bored with your "meeting" posts - they've made a really nice addition to this thread. Thanks for letting us see the autograph message you got that day.

There is only another thing I would want to ask you - I notice that you mention that you had "all access" passes, and yet you were unable to get near Jimmy the following day. In your opinion, do you think your access had been restricted, or perhaps "all access" wasn't at the top end of the passes regardless of the phrase's meaning.

Okay, I promise to stop boring you all with my "meeting" posts, but I wanted to share this as a final post on the topic: one of my mementos of the meeting. I would love to re-connect with Jimmy and discuss that day, as I am positive that there would be some funny memories and laughs shared, and believe it or not, he said that he was looking forward to meeting my wife the next day, but unfortunately that never happened, despite the "all access" passes. I can tell you that he has an impeccable memory, and would remember this meeting, as he shared some "Vancouver" stories with me from his Yardbirds days, and I was shocked at how he recalled the most mundane things with such vivid detail. Good Great guy that Jimmy!

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Dan,

Trust me, we are anything but bored with your "meeting" posts - they've made a really nice addition to this thread. Thanks for letting us see the autograph message you got that day.

There is only another thing I would want to ask you - I notice that you mention that you had "all access" passes, and yet you were unable to get near Jimmy the following day. In your opinion, do you think your access had been restricted, or perhaps "all access" wasn't at the top end of the passes regardless of the phrase's meaning.

Hi kenog. Well, I don't really know, to be honest. "All Access" did not allow us to roam about, but it allowed us to go where we wanted with an escort. Jimmy told me to bring my wife, and some LP's that we wanted autographed, and he would take care of that for us. So, we were escorted to a waiting area, and we were told that Jimmy and Robert had not arrived yet. Whether that was true, or not, I do not know, but we were also told that they had a habit of arriving about 10 minutes before going on stage, and that we wouldn't get a chance to see them if that was the case, given the time constraints. So, about 20 minutes before they were due to take the stage, we were told that even if they arrived at that moment, we were likely not going to be able to see them, as they would need a few minutes to get ready, and then hit the stage. We were encouraged to go to our seats. For some reason they took away our "All Access" passes at that point, and gave us "After Show" passes in their place. We were told that somebody would collect us after the show and take us to the press room, and that is exactly what happened, but the band did not attend; they make their decision to do so at the last minute, based on whether they have something to announce, or say. I chose to believe that Jimmy was sincere, and I suspect that he had his regrets for not fullfilling his promise to me (my wife was soooo broken hearted, and still talks about that missed opportunity 15 years later), but those are the realities of being a star. So, I attribute the breakdown to logistics and not to Jimmy, as he seemed most sincere about taking care of us, especially after I got him out of a jam trying to find his way back to the hotel, and after wiping up a big bird poop for him. Besides, there may be another opportunity in the future if we are lucky. Thanks for your interest kenog. Someday, I'll share some of my other LZ treasures (mementos) that are a cut above the norm.

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Thanks for this Dan. I feel sorry for your wife - at least you got the opportunity to meet the boys. It's really cruel when you were asked to bring your LP's along etc and things didn't work out for you. On the basis of the details you give, I don't think there was any deliberate avoiding of you on Jimmy's part.

Hi kenog. Well, I don't really know, to be honest. "All Access" did not allow us to roam about, but it allowed us to go where we wanted with an escort. Jimmy told me to bring my wife, and some LP's that we wanted autographed, and he would take care of that for us. So, we were escorted to a waiting area, and we were told that Jimmy and Robert had not arrived yet. Whether that was true, or not, I do not know, but we were also told that they had a habit of arriving about 10 minutes before going on stage, and that we wouldn't get a chance to see them if that was the case, given the time constraints. So, about 20 minutes before they were due to take the stage, we were told that even if they arrived at that moment, we were likely not going to be able to see them, as they would need a few minutes to get ready, and then hit the stage. We were encouraged to go to our seats. For some reason they took away our "All Access" passes at that point, and gave us "After Show" passes in their place. We were told that somebody would collect us after the show and take us to the press room, and that is exactly what happened, but the band did not attend; they make their decision to do so at the last minute, based on whether they have something to announce, or say. I chose to believe that Jimmy was sincere, and I suspect that he had his regrets for not fullfilling his promise to me (my wife was soooo broken hearted, and still talks about that missed opportunity 15 years later), but those are the realities of being a star. So, I attribute the breakdown to logistics and not to Jimmy, as he seemed most sincere about taking care of us, especially after I got him out of a jam trying to find his way back to the hotel, and after wiping up a big bird poop for him.

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Thanks for this Dan. I feel sorry for your wife - at least you got the opportunity to meet the boys. It's really cruel when you were asked to bring your LP's along etc and things didn't work out for you. On the basis of the details you give, I don't think there was any deliberate avoiding of you on Jimmy's part.

You never really know, do you? But I choose to believe that it came down to logistics, as that is what I feel in my heart, and it also allows me to write an ending the story that doesn't conflict with an otherwise amazing memory.

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All this is very interesting and thx for joining us!!

Thank-you very much, the pleasure is entirely mine. I have never shared this much detail about our meeting, on a public forum, as the story sounds almost unbelievable. It is the gospel truth, however. It is nice to let it all out after all these years, and to share it with people who actually care to hear about it. Who knows, maybe there is an off chance that Jimmy reads this thread and has a chuckle. That would make my day!

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Thank-you very much, the pleasure is entirely mine. I have never shared this much detail about our meeting, on a public forum, as the story sounds almost unbelievable. It is the gospel truth, however. It is nice to let it all out after all these years, and to share it with people who actually care to hear about it. Who knows, maybe their is an off chance that Jimmy reads this thread and has a

chuckle. That would make my day!

I am glad you did. Sometimes, I wonder too if he looks at this forum. I also agree with Stairway, there is no better way to describe him than as a 'prince.'

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Great great story.....thanks so much for sharing.

The " wheels" that run a tour sometimes become bogged down by too many drivers....and I am so sorry to hear that your follow-up meeting did not happen as planned.

I agree with your perspective that it was probably logistics and I am sure JP was sincere in his offer to meet up with you and your wife the next day.

Regardless....what a wonderful experience you were able to have.

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