weslgarlic Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Former child star Charlotte Church says the culture of demeaning women in pop music is so ingrained it has become routine. Singer Charlotte Church has attacked the sexism of the "juvenile" male-dominated music industry, which she said was increasingly creating and promoting "child-like" sex objects. In the keynote John Peel Lecture, she backed calls for an age-ratings system for near-the-knuckle music videos and said radio executives needed to shoulder some responsibility for playlisting artists who relied on "soft porn" to boost their profile. Her comments - in an address to radio executives - come as there is increasing concern about sexual imagery to sell music with singer Miley Cyrus appearing naked in her video for the single Wrecking Ball. Church, who like Cyrus found success in her early teens, told how she faced considerable pressure to promote her music in ever more suggestive outfits and she said the legacy of revealing outfits is that she faces a barrage of abuse online, being called a "slut" and a "whore". And she warned younger stars who succumb to the pressure to sell their sexuality: "Now I find it difficult to promote my music in the places where it would be best suited because of my 'history'. But at the time it was the option presented to me." Church, 27, said women were being "coerced" into sexual roles to cling on to their careers and she classified women who were overtly using sexual imagery to boost their careers such as Rihanna and Cyrus as "unattainable sexbots" She said that approach was "the most commonly employed and most damaging, a role that is also often claimed to be an empowering one". Church went on: "The irony behind this is that the women generally filling these roles are very young, often previous child stars or Disney-tweens, who are simply interested in getting along in an industry glamourised to be the most desirable career for young women. "They are encouraged to present themselves as hyper-sexualised, unrealistic, cartoonish, as objects, reducing female sexuality to a prize you can win. "The culture of demeaning women in pop music is so ingrained as to become routine, from the way we are dealt with by management and labels, to the way we are presented to the public. "You could trace this back to Madonna - although it probably goes back further in time. She was a template setter. By changing her image regularly, putting her sexuality in the heart of her image, videos and live performance - the statement she was making was - I am in control of ME and my sexuality. "This idea has had its corners rounded off over the years and has become 'take clothes off, show you're an adult'." Church branded the music world "a male-dominated industry, with an juvenile perspective on gender and sexuality". http://news.sky.com/story/1154794/charlotte-church-slams-sexist-music-industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60blues Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Charlotte Church is 27 ??!!!! God I feel old now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslgarlic Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Charlotte Church is 27 ??!!!! God I feel old now..... Jim Morrison , Jimi Hendrix , Janis Joplin , Brian Jones & Kurt Cobain all died at 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apantherfrommd Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Jim Morrison , Jimi Hendrix , Janis Joplin , Brian Jones & Kurt Cobain all died at 27 Justin Bieber in 8 more years. Patience my friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Justin Bieber in 8 more years. Patience my friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslgarlic Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Justin Bieber in 8 more years. Patience my friends. He could stick around as long as Sir Cliff Richard and have a recording career just as good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 He could stick around as long as Sir Cliff Richard and have a recording career just as good But we now know he's total gangsta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottedplant Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Justin Bieber in 8 more years. Patience my friends. :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Sinead O'Connor already said pretty much the same thing in an Open Letter to Miley Cyrus printed in the Guardian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslgarlic Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Sinead O'Connor already said pretty much the same thing in an Open Letter to Miley Cyrus printed in the Guardian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SozoZoso Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Justin Bieber in 8 more years. Patience my friends. Love that!! also add Miley Virus and Rhianna to that list *taps on the Reapers shoulder....* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslgarlic Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Love that!! also add Miley Virus and Rhianna to that list *taps on the Reapers shoulder....* Easy targets .. I think the likes of Nickleback , Bon Jovi , Kiss , Metallica , Rush Et Al have all lived longer than anyone would hope for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Miley Virus Har! :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles J. White Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Sinead O'Connor already said pretty much the same thing in an Open Letter to Miley Cyrus printed in the Guardian. Sinead O'Connor never really struck me as musician, she always seemed more interested in politics - I like rock music, not election music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslgarlic Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Sinead O'Connor never really struck me as musician, she always seemed more interested in politics - I like rock music, not election music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Sinead O'Connor never really struck me as musician, she always seemed more interested in politics - I like rock music, not election music She volunteered to give Clinton a hummer. Wonder if she wore a blue dress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslgarlic Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 She volunteered to give Clinton a hummer. Wonder if she wore a blue dress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Sinead O'Connor never really struck me as musician, she always seemed more interested in politics - I like rock music, not election music Her first two albums are really good. She didn't really get hung up on issues until after she ripped the Pope's picture on "Saturday Night Live". But then, given the hypocrisy and venal shenanigans of the Catholic Church over the centuries, why shouldn't she rip the Pope's photo? The Church deserves a lot worse. Sinead has a great voice and never needed autotune. I haven't seen her in years...not since Lilith Fair...but she was good in concert, too. A goofy dancer, though, hehe. http://youtu.be/5QFPfSfLi-Q She didn't need to strip naked and lick a sledgehammer to make an effective video, either. http://youtu.be/iUiTQvT0W_0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SozoZoso Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 This is enough to make you choke on your tea... Justin Bieber Sings Metallica’s ‘Fade to Black’ http://ultimateclassicrock.com/justin-bieber-metallica-fade-to-black/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireOpal Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Sinead is a brilliant musician, very talented. Mad as a mongoose but no one's perfect & she's been through a lot. It's a pity that most people only seem to know "No One Compares to You." I loved her trad Irish album "Sean Nos Nua" and an amazing collection called "She Dwells in the Secret Place of the Most High..." with sacred music, reggae, some trad ballads, and live tracks. Thank You for Hearing Me - fecking brilliant, from "Gael Force" concert in Dublin a few years back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj_xKA5C2vU John, I Love You - she's a great melody writer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z7srLwOjEw You Put Your Arms Around Me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvE3VY-Oo_o Back to the topic: she's right, it's sad that many female singers are basically like pole dancers. Anyway! Taylor Swift has escaped it so far. I hope she never succumbs. And she's making truckloads of money, so it's not like you *have* to go slutty, not if you have talent. That eliminates Miley I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Sinead is a brilliant musician, very talented. Mad as a mongoose but no one's perfect & she's been through a lot. It's a pity that most people only seem to know "No One Compares to You." I loved her trad Irish album "Sean Nos Nua" and an amazing collection called "She Dwells in the Secret Place of the Most High..." with sacred music, reggae, some trad ballads, and live tracks. Thank You for Hearing Me - fecking brilliant, from "Gael Force" concert in Dublin a few years back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj_xKA5C2vU John, I Love You - she's a great melody writer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z7srLwOjEw You Put Your Arms Around Me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvE3VY-Oo_o Back to the topic: she's right, it's sad that many female singers are basically like pole dancers. Anyway! Taylor Swift has escaped it so far. I hope she never succumbs. And she's making truckloads of money, so it's not like you *have* to go slutty, not if you have talent. That eliminates Miley I suppose. Thank you, FO, for concurring. I haven't kept up with Sinead's career as assiduously as you have, but I have liked what I have heard. I'd like another chance to see her in concert one of these days. She's like Fiona Apple in that she's this tiny woman with a lion's roar of a voice. You can't believe this petite woman can call forth such a fierceness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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