boogie woogie Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) I wish you well with this project. I hope you can find as much footage as possible . Is the project about capturing the spirit and energy of a continuous live concert? I am curious how you will be handling situations where footage does not exist. Have you considered using still pictures as Zep did for the Royal Albert Hall show on the Zep dvd.? I think using still pictures could be part of the solution. I hope you do not go the route of the Immigrant song on the LZ dvd. It's great to see in all but for me it's too much moving around. I have little to no experience with editing but I wanted to share this thought when I heard of your idea. Edited April 24, 2014 by boogie woogie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 1) Yes, it is. No bullshit; just pure concert. 2) We're doing the "Immigrant Song" thing, but more accurately. Trust me, there are no split second jump cuts! We're only going to use material that looks like it fits the song (we're not going to add a shot into No Quarter with John Paul on bass, or something into TSRTS with Page playing his Les Paul, etc.) plus using footage from "The First Cuts," 8mm films, etc. We're not passing this as 100% genuine, but it'll be much better than a concert with mock up footage/footage that doesn't match the song. 3) Btw, Dick Carruthers used stills from the film to cover footage with no gaps, not photos. There are some interesting ones that pop up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogie woogie Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Sounds like you're approaching this with much care. It does sound like a monumental project . A labor of love I'm sure. I like the idea of capturing the spirit and energy of a continuous concert. For me I'm not out to knock TSRTS. I'm glad we have it. So you will be using stills? Best of luck I look forward to checking out your project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Probably not when it comes to stills. Honestly I think there would be too many places to put them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummerOfMySmiles Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Pretty please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummerOfMySmiles Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 What? Yea that was my (poor) way of saying "please do it" to the OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Oh, yes, this is happening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcondo123 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Any updates on the film? I hope you guys are making good progress, this is very exciting to me!! I always loved TSRTS, but to watch the concert as complete as possible is a new level of astounding. This is a big task and I hope you guys are making headway, good luck and cheers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckoes Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I did my own edit called "In For a Quick Garden" a while ago. One thing I did was using every backstage footage from the band to create a visual companion to Heartbreaker. It worked quite well, to my own surprise. How is the project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anodizingstatic Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 Any updates on the film? I hope you guys are making good progress, this is very exciting to me!! I always loved TSRTS, but to watch the concert as complete as possible is a new level of astounding. This is a big task and I hope you guys are making headway, good luck and cheers!! It's coming along, I can tell you that. Obviously, there's no way it's "truthful" because it's a rearrangement, but it's more honest than the mock footage itself. I don't know, I don't want to rush things, but let's say around the holidays this year. Perhaps LZF and I can work together and throw out a full cut or something along that by then. It's really a professional job so far, but to ensure that level of quality is consistent throughout the whole film we've got to give it a lot of intimate time to develop. We have, of course, so it's a definite prospect to look forward to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcondo123 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 It's coming along, I can tell you that. Obviously, there's no way it's "truthful" because it's a rearrangement, but it's more honest than the mock footage itself. I don't know, I don't want to rush things, but let's say around the holidays this year. Perhaps LZF and I can work together and throw out a full cut or something along that by then. It's really a professional job so far, but to ensure that level of quality is consistent throughout the whole film we've got to give it a lot of intimate time to develop. We have, of course, so it's a definite prospect to look forward to! Thanks for the reply! And yes, please take your time!! This is something that needs time to work on and you two I can tell are gonna do great. Thanks again and I'll be waiting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCAN Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) Just came across a project that made me think of this thread. I won't provide the link as this is the official LZ forum and it's not cool to publish links for "bootleg" material. It is a re-edit of TSRTS that removes the fantasy sequences, cut-aways to backstage conversations, and fills in footage gaps with footage from the LZ/HTWWW DVD and other sources. Other changes include putting the songs in their true running order and (somehow) including Heartbreaker in its entirety. Of the two reviews for it, both praise the new cut as wonderful. Interesting. Edited September 14, 2014 by MCAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strutter806 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I did my own edit called "In For a Quick Garden" a while ago. One thing I did was using every backstage footage from the band to create a visual companion to Heartbreaker. It worked quite well, to my own surprise. How is the project? Hello eckoes, I have a download of your edit and it is quite fantastic! The Heartbreaker "collage" is a kick in the balls to put it one way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCAN Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 ^ That's the edit I was referring to. Guess I missed that post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) It's gonna be a hard job, without Jimmy giving you all the material! And all you will do basicaly, is just create another version of it! Edited September 14, 2014 by Matjaz1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoZephead Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 The footage isnt available, dont waste your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSterminator_ Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Hi! is avaiable a preview of the project? Is still in work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fry Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 years later... Any more progress? Was this finished and I missed it? It sounded amazing! Anybody out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpete Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Nothing official. There is the Heywood edition that combines sources for the most complete version. Its awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 On 11/20/2013 at 2:56 AM, SteveAJones said: My hunch is this thread may become locked or pulled as your proposal, though noble, does directly constitute piracy as well as bootleg production and as such is generally discouraged on this, the official forum. Having said that, bear in mind one reason the fantasy sequences exist in the first place is to cover gaps in film footage. The reality is one will never find enough outside source film footage to cover those gaps in their entirety. How times have changed, bootleg "links" that never would have been allowed are posted regularly. Normal at the Hotel but never here until recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fry Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Shame. I do love the Heywood version though. Grin. My one niggle is that he didn't sort out the weird timing of the drum fill between Heartbreaker and Whole Lotta Love. That certainly was a remastering clunker that needed rectifying. But yes, this is my go to version now. Cheers for the input, guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fry Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Oh, and love the In For A Quick Garden fan re-edit DVD too. Think I watch that more than the original now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) On 3/16/2020 at 8:59 PM, Michael Fry said: Shame. I do love the Heywood version though. Grin. My one niggle is that he didn't sort out the weird timing of the drum fill between Heartbreaker and Whole Lotta Love. That certainly was a remastering clunker that needed rectifying. But yes, this is my go to version now. Cheers for the input, guys! This is off-topic a bit, but since Heywood version is mentioned, do you, by any chance, know where can I find it? Edited May 21, 2020 by Spitfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fry Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 PM sent, Spitfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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