joeboy Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Is there any meaning to this wave of the bow 10 minutes into the song or is he just saluting the audience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 It was his salute to the four Marx Brothers: Groucho, Chico, Harpo, and ZEPPO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth and beauty Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Ha ha , lovely ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 It's theatrics. Concert attendees have confirmed the reverberation of sound changed to match his movements as depicted in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireOpal Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 It's theatrics. Concert attendees have confirmed the reverberation of sound changed to match his movements as depicted in the film. You go on believing that, SteveJones. He's summoning Satan! Turn away or be snared! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tear922 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 He had speakers in the hall and pointed at them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeboy Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Fireopel I did some research on your claim of this summoning Satan thing. I did find in the "Satanic Bible" by Anton Levay on page 75 of "The Satanic Ritual- The 13 steps"......Step #7: Turning counter clockwise, the priest points with the sword to each cardinal point of the compass and calls forth the respective Princes of Hell: Satan from the south,Lucifer from the east, Belial from the north, and Leviathan from the west. It is kind of weird Jimmy does this in the song but maybe it's just a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantpothead Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 This is reminiscent of the Paul McCartney is dead idea, For gods sake can't he just wave his are around without some jerk reading some hidden meaning into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juxtiphi Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 This is reminiscent of the Paul McCartney is dead idea, For gods sake can't he just wave his are around without some jerk reading some hidden meaning into it. why are you calling him a jerk? There is meaning there. Whether or not he is summoning satan is debatable but in the world of magik ceremony is key. Jimmy is a magician and during this part of the bow solo He is casting a circle and calling out the four elements as part of his nightly ceremony. No big deal really, but suggesting that Jimmy is simply waving his arms about because he thought it looked cool is absurd. Maybe if you knew as much about the occult as Jimmy does you wouldn't be so quick to poo poo it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireOpal Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I was kidding with Mr. SteveJones; I take Jimmy at his word that he's not a Satanist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeboy Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Ok Fireopal he is not a Satanist. By the way I just checked his Facebook page and guess what pops up? An ad to buy the latest copy of Lucifer's Rising. I think Jimmy knows what a good business venture this whole Satanist thing is and is milking it for all it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 ^^^ I hope you're joking. You don't seriously believe that? It's theatrics. Concert attendees have confirmed the reverberation of sound changed to match his movements as depicted in the film. He was summoning the father of the four winds to blow the sound in whatever direction he pointed his bow towards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantpothead Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 why are you calling him a jerk? There is meaning there. Whether or not he is summoning satan is debatable but in the world of magik ceremony is key. Jimmy is a magician and during this part of the bow solo He is casting a circle and calling out the four elements as part of his nightly ceremony. No big deal really, but suggesting that Jimmy is simply waving his arms about because he thought it looked cool is absurd. Maybe if you knew as much about the occult as Jimmy does you wouldn't be so quick to poo poo it. Why on earth would I want to know about the occult, what next bible lessons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzoso Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Why on earth would I want to know about the occult, what next bible lessons? Call me what you will as I will call You what I will: From some of your posts/responses to other people's responses/post that I have read, You seem to come off as a very "Judgmental" and sometimes very "Ignorant" in your posts and choice of words. RELAX!!!... and do not take things that you may not agree with and "spout" what you think is always right. Back to the topic at hand, I do think that there may be some underlying tone or message that Jimmy is trying to (subtly) convey to the audiences that happened to witness a Led Zeppelin concert from 1973 - 1979. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireOpal Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Some people are rude and have an inflated opinion of their own importance. Juxtiphi's post about casting a magical space was interesting and relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juxtiphi Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Why on earth would I want to know about the occult, what next bible lessons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triplet Kick Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 "I'll have that groupie, and that one, and that one...aaaaand that one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeboy Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 Yes..... the bow simulates a whip and Jimmy is calling out all sado-masochistic women in the audience. How obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantpothead Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Some people are rude and have an inflated opinion of their own importance. Juxtiphi's post about casting a magical space was interesting and relevant. WOW!! Yeah man, far out, cosmic, magical space???? What planet are you from?.Also I am not rude and I do not consider myself important, I have my opinion which I stand by. I listen to music a lot and I have thousands of albums by hundreds of artists, so I consider myself reasonably knowledgeable on the subject of music. But I just listen to it and enjoy it for what it is, I don't go theorising about what the artist was thinking at the time, or what lyrics mean. If I did I would be forever in a daze.Where is the relevance in casting a magical space, Who for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bong-Man Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Where is the relevance in casting a magical space, Who for? If you bother to open your mind a couple inches, you might find out that Jimmy himself has mentioned in interviews exactly what he was trying to accomplish. The initial question is a fair one....it is a ritual....it is related to magic....and it does have meaning to him. If that doesn't interest you, then you really shouldn't be bothering to respond to the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecongo Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I don't think it's some kind of ritual. If it is, then what was his Noise Solo Harmonizer up and down gestures about? You know when he would raise his guitar up the sound effect would rise and fall based on his arm gestures. Does that signify something, too? Or when he would march and dance in time to the echo repeats during the Theremin solo, is that some sort of ritual? I doubt it. Simple stage theatrics, nothing more IMHO. Jimmy thought and rehearsed out a lot of his stage moves to glorious effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagefan55 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I agree with the posts on this thread by juxtiphy and Bong-Man: Page was definitely performing a ceremonial magik ritual of some kind. Of course, Page was also being theatrical--he was fully aware of how great it looked and sounded. I read a quote by Page several years ago where he said something along the lines of, "Back then, (in the 70's) that was my life--the melding of music and magik--I lived it." Also, Plantpothead mentioned above that he doesn't like to go "theorizing about what the artist was thinking at the time." With all due respect, I'm just the opposite; I'm fascinated by what the members of Zep were thinking, and particularly by the musical/philosophical ideas jointly shared by--and the interplay between--Plant and Page. I'm also fascinated by Page's thought patterns, his artistic vision, and his sources of inspiration and creativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juxtiphi Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 "Magick" is ______. Fill in the blank. Bluecongo's was the best post in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeboy Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Magic or sorcery is an attempt to understand, experience and influence the world using rituals, symbols, actions, gestures and language. Aleister Crowley defined Magick as "the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with the will". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.