LedZeppfan77 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I recorded this documentary on my DVR about this new Mammoth they found in the Siberian ice. This one is the best ever found. The meat was red and there was blood taken. They are very certain they can clone this Mammoth and bring it back. It is 43,000 years old!!!! A Harvard professor says he can clone the Mammoth without a complete cell. But they may have their cell. They are still working on it and the first stages are being done. Its amazing to think of. They have done it for the rich for exotic species of dogs and such. This would be right out of Jurassic Park and its incredible to me. The Harvard guy envisions the Artic and Siberia having thousands of them to bring back the grass in place of the Tundra. I am all for it. And If they could ever find a Sabre tooth Tiger in this condition the same would be amazing. I see nothing wrong with it. There is so much to learn from this Mammoth. They have stool remains that are in incredible condition. 43,000 years!!!!!! The Pyramids were built and Jesus walked the Earth after the life and death of this animal. This is only the beginning of ground breaking research. Scientists are very excited about this. I am sure it will be on again. I suggest you watch it. It was on Smithsonian so if you do not get this the title is exactly what I posted as the title and You Tube probably has it already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul carruthers Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I wonder if it would be possible with all the genetic material available to clone an extinct species--or would these scientists even want to attempt it? How much is going too far in the pursuit of science? Fascinating stuff, to say the least... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apantherfrommd Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 It may be possible, I guess. But doesn't the freezing process, somehow hurt the makeup of the cells?I'd like to see this Documentary. If someone can find it on youtube, could you please post a link.Side issue here, but check out what scientists have in store for future. http://www.2045.com/ Note the avatar on the right. They're saying within 5 years, they want it possible to transplant your brain into an avatar at your moment of death. Wild stuff about DNA and tech going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Charles J. White Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Stupid idea, cloning a Mammoth would be a form of torture to the animal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 What happened to the complete mammoth they removed from the ice some years back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedZeppfan77 Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 What happened to the complete mammoth they removed from the ice some years back?. I have often wondered this too! My guess is it was not as well preserved as this rare find. The DNA would be placed in the embryo of the Asian elephants, and a cloned baby mammoth would be born after a gestation period of approximately two years. I am for it and the animal would be well cared for. After time and perhaps a couple of generations we would have brought back a long extinct species. It could be done to other species, for instance a Sabre tooth tiger if they could find a well preserved remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apantherfrommd Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 What happened to the complete mammoth they removed from the ice some years back? Asians have to eat too, Bro. . I have often wondered this too! My guess is it was not as well preserved as this rare find. The DNA would be placed in the embryo of the Asian elephants, and a cloned baby mammoth would be born after a gestation period of approximately two years. I am for it and the animal would be well cared for. After time and perhaps a couple of generations we would have brought back a long extinct species. It could be done to other species, for instance a Sabre tooth tiger if they could find a well preserved remains. Whoa Whoa! What does well cared for mean? Hey luvlz2 brought up a video. And I'm very appreciative for the video trailer. I'd love to hear the whole documentary. But did you hear what paleobiologist Tori Herridge said before they cut her off? It was something to the effect of:"at the moment, there doesn't seem to be a way of doing this without involving some Asian elephants. And I can't see that we can justify experimenting on those." I would be curious too, but I concur with Tori. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie29 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Attempting to bring back extinct animals via cloning is nothing new. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/130310-extinct-species-cloning-deextinction-genetics-science/ I've always liked this line from Ian Malcolm (Jeff Goldblum), in Jurassic Park, "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should!?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apantherfrommd Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 That's exactly what I was trying to remember. Thank you, Reggie29. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 . I have often wondered this too! My guess is it was not as well preserved as this rare find. The DNA would be placed in the embryo of the Asian elephants, and a cloned baby mammoth would be born after a gestation period of approximately two years. I am for it and the animal would be well cared for. After time and perhaps a couple of generations we would have brought back a long extinct species. It could be done to other species, for instance a Sabre tooth tiger if they could find a well preserved remains. http://www.tarpits.org/page-museum/exhibits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 This is insane. A completely foolish idea that would have disastrous consequences. Evolution and the extinction of certain animal species happens for a reason. To reintroduce an animal that has not existed for millions of years into the present ecosystem would wreak havoc. Any scientist that would attempt such a foolhardy notion should be charged with reckless endangerment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie29 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) Another line from Ian Malcolm, "Hold on, this is no species that was obliterated by deforestation or the building of a dam, Dinosaurs had their shot, Nature selected them for extinction." Michael Crichton's Jurassic Park was on the money, questioning the morality and reponsibilities of Genetic Engineering, science for science sake and scientists "playing" God and how corporations put profit before benefit for the common good and the consequences that follow. Climate conditions would have been similar to what we have today so it is possible to "sustain" them if they were cloned. The habitat of these warm blooded furred woolly mammals and other species of the time, it would obviously be a cold environment similar to Alaska, Siberia or the Himalayas as well as many other places on the planet. It was only extreme temperatures brought about by the Ice Age that killed them off, mostly frozen to death. Do you relocate them to their place of origin (wherever that may be), or a facsimile? What benefit would there be in "greening" the Tundra, wouldn't this contribute in upsetting the balance of nature and ecosystems of the region? What really caused their demise? Was their extinction by design, Natural Selection or some other biotic crisis or mass species extinction event, such as an Axis Shift causing the Ice Age? One last question, Why? Edited December 6, 2014 by Reggie29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Woolly Mammoth for $1,000 Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 This is insane. A completely foolish idea that would have disastrous consequences. Evolution and the extinction of certain animal species happens for a reason. To reintroduce an animal that has not existed for millions of years into the present ecosystem would wreak havoc. Any scientist that would attempt such a foolhardy notion should be charged with reckless endangerment. Don't you think it would be awesome to see some pterodactyls zipping around the canyons of New York City sans CGI effects? I'd like to see one perch on Woody Allen's balcony. What about the coelacanth? http://www.dinofish.com/ I would love to find a mammoth tusk like they recently did in Seattle and sell it to the highest scrimshander bidder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Woolly Mammoth for $1,000 Alex. chit-it-chew-chew-chew.......It's the Daily Double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedZeppfan77 Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 This is insane. A completely foolish idea that would have disastrous consequences. Evolution and the extinction of certain animal species happens for a reason. To reintroduce an animal that has not existed for millions of years into the present ecosystem would wreak havoc. Any scientist that would attempt such a foolhardy notion should be charged with reckless endangerment. I strongly disagree with you and think its a great idea to do it. So the Do Do Bird was targeted for extinction? The passenger pidgeon, which did so much good. What do you say about that? What reason would there be for the modern day Tiger or white Rhino to become extinct as they are now threatened? I can name other examples but wont waste my time. This is something they should absolutely do. they are not bringing back a human so you cant argue morality issues on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apantherfrommd Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I strongly disagree with you and think its a great idea to do it.Hey LedZeppfan77. How's it goin? I think I might pick Oakland for this week. Sorry. Wrong thread.Why do you think it's a great idea to do it?This is something they should absolutely do. they are not bringing back a human so you cant argue morality issues on this one.They're not bringing back a Wooly Mammoth either. They're creating a hybrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedZeppfan77 Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Hey LedZeppfan77. How's it goin? I think I might pick Oakland for this week. Sorry. Wrong thread. Why do you think it's a great idea to do it? They're not bringing back a Wooly Mammoth either. They're creating a hybrid. 2nd or 3rd generation would be pretty much the exact animal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) and think its a great idea to do it. For what end,Ian? Edited December 18, 2014 by Anjin-san Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles J. White Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 This is a really dumb idea. The world as it exists today is not a place for a Mammoth. Furthermore, the animal would be harmed because it would be treated and expected to live the life of an experiment. The elephant family is a very unique species of animal. Instead of spending money to "bring back" those who passed naturally, the attention should be placed on saving those that are about to go because of human mistakes. I don't understand people anymore at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apantherfrommd Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 On 12/6/2014 at 2:01 AM, Reggie29 said: Attempting to bring back extinct animals via cloning is nothing new. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/130310-extinct-species-cloning-deextinction-genetics-science/ I've always liked this line from Ian Malcolm (Jeff Goldblum), in Jurassic Park, "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should!?" http://www.nature.com/news/crispr-gene-editing-tested-in-a-person-for-the-first-time-1.20988 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/i-joined-an-underground-medical-movement-but-had-to-become-a-cyborg-to-do-it-2016-11-15 Glowing cats are a thing of the past. I don't like where this is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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