kirchzep27 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I actually think this is the tip of the iceberg for artists and bands that are famous. I could see a record of jimmy page early works, all without vocals, this way the listener could focus on the guitar and not hear dated vocals. From all the session stuff , yardbirds, lord sutch, early zeppelin..........to a later release of later zeppelin, the firm, page and coverdale , page and plant material.......all without vocals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Albert 72 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Jesus! "Led Zeppelin" alone has a complete double live album with it! As a mixing engineer it's fascinating to hear the alt mixes especially the ones without vocals. Hearing different aspects of the mix breathing with renewed air is fascinating. Alt mixes like "Four Sticks" are just amazing and the stuff with "Presence" is exceptional. As for "Coda" that now becomes an absolute gold mine of lost material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummingbird69 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Fat Albert 72 said: Jesus! "Led Zeppelin" alone has a complete double live album with it! As a mixing engineer it's fascinating to hear the alt mixes especially the ones without vocals. Hearing different aspects of the mix breathing with renewed air is fascinating. Alt mixes like "Four Sticks" are just amazing and the stuff with "Presence" is exceptional. As for "Coda" that now becomes an absolute gold mine of lost material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril46 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 It's cool that the many fans on this thread are so enamored by the companion discs. Unfortunately, many defunct or even still rolling bands have much more comprehensive and varied box sets than Zep's. I do find some of the companion material interesting, but coming from possibly the greatest rock band ever, the releases are quite stark for me overall. Regular CD's are barely sold anymore, but box sets which have the regular release and then 3 or 4 companion discs focused mainly on the original release are very common these days. Look, Jimmy's getting older, but for these releases Jimmy should have hired some expert help, because I feel that the gold standard surrounding Zep releases has been damaged to an extent. Started with Mothership, then puzzling edits/decisions on remastered TSRTS, and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppelin_starship Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) I think that Physical Graffiti and ITTOD second CDs could have been a reduced version of Earls Court and Knebworth concerts, something like this: Earls Court: Rock and Roll, Sick Again, In My Time of Dying, Kashmir, Tangerine, Going to California, Thats the Way, Bron-Yr-Stomp, Trampled Under Foot, Stairway to Heaven. Knebworth: The Song Remains the Same, Nobody’s Fault But Mine, Misty Mountain Hop, Since I’ve Been Loving You, Ten Years Gone, Hot Dog, Rain Song, Achilles Last Stand, In The Evening, Whole Lotta Love. In bold, new unreleased live tracks and the rest are the same as the DVD tracks. Edited May 17, 2021 by zeppelin_starship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reids Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Good idea, but I’d rather see an official companion live disc (cd, vinyl, digital) series. R😎🎸👍🎶 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
in_the_evening Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 1/28/2020 at 11:33 PM, Mithril46 said: It's cool that the many fans on this thread are so enamored by the companion discs. Unfortunately, many defunct or even still rolling bands have much more comprehensive and varied box sets than Zep's. I do find some of the companion material interesting, but coming from possibly the greatest rock band ever, the releases are quite stark for me overall. Regular CD's are barely sold anymore, but box sets which have the regular release and then 3 or 4 companion discs focused mainly on the original release are very common these days. Look, Jimmy's getting older, but for these releases Jimmy should have hired some expert help, because I feel that the gold standard surrounding Zep releases has been damaged to an extent. Started with Mothership, then puzzling edits/decisions on remastered TSRTS, and so on. Page constantly states that he didn't want to put anything out there that had already been bootlegged or whatever. What Mr. Page fails to understand is the VAST majority of Zep fans own zero bootlegs. I know, the VAST majority of fans on this site DO own bootlegs, but almost every Zep fan I know owns none. Why not take some of the bootlegged stuff, polish it up a bit, and officially release it? Neil Young has his own site, neilyoungarchives.com FULL of stuff. Each week a new streaming concert. The ability to listen to all sorts of half baked attempts at songs. And he's constantly adding more stuff (unreleased albums, three this year). With Zep we get "oh gee it's been five years since I remastered the albums, a lot of new technology has come around since then, I'll remaster them again". I do agree that other bands have put our many hours of unheard music, and some of it is "meh" and some of it is "wow". There is no way Stairway was done in one or two takes, you could do like Dylan did with "like a Rolling Stone" where he released I think 50 attempts on the song in his archives. Oh well, I will stop ranting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenman Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 6/3/2021 at 1:15 AM, in_the_evening said: Page constantly states that he didn't want to put anything out there that had already been bootlegged or whatever. What Mr. Page fails to understand is the VAST majority of Zep fans own zero bootlegs. I know, the VAST majority of fans on this site DO own bootlegs, but almost every Zep fan I know owns none. Why not take some of the bootlegged stuff, polish it up a bit, and officially release it? Neil Young has his own site, neilyoungarchives.com FULL of stuff. Each week a new streaming concert. The ability to listen to all sorts of half baked attempts at songs. And he's constantly adding more stuff (unreleased albums, three this year). With Zep we get "oh gee it's been five years since I remastered the albums, a lot of new technology has come around since then, I'll remaster them again". I do agree that other bands have put our many hours of unheard music, and some of it is "meh" and some of it is "wow". There is no way Stairway was done in one or two takes, you could do like Dylan did with "like a Rolling Stone" where he released I think 50 attempts on the song in his archives. Oh well, I will stop ranting. I do suspect as well that a big factor remain that Page whats the Zep official brand to still be a mark of quality and for the band to still retain some of the mystery.. The companion disks move somewhat away from that but still they tend to stick to material thats pretty well formed, not very early run thoughts most of the time either alternatives takes/mixes or would be songs that progressed quite awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcio614 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 and thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmo Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 I need to revisit the companion discs again since it’s been awhile. Like many I was disappointed overall but there were some interesting tracks here and there. Jimmy got it right with the debut and should have included a period live disc with each album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono83 Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Bonjour , Moi c'est surtout la version remasterisé de "No quarter" sur The song remain the same qui m'a énormément déçu , elle n'est pas la même que sur la première version , fini les basses profondes avec le pédalier de l'orgue fini l'énorme coup de gong , c'est bien dommage , par contre c'est bien pour les nouveaux titres , par contre ils aurait pu faire la même chose en dvd sans la partie cinématographique . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zep Nut Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 On 8/30/2015 at 7:28 PM, Flares said: "Some other acts, they are scraping the bottom of the barrel" Unlike Zeppelin, who are releasing remasters of the remasters of the remasters. Basically the same material again and again. At least these bands are putting out "new" stuff. It's up to the fan to make the decision if he wants to buy it and feels the quality is acceptable. Page said he didn't wanted to replicate the bootleg stuff, but what about your average fan who doesn't have that, or the fan who wants it in the best quality possible. He needed to put the best stuff on there he had. I would rather have a slightly inferior sound-wise rehearsal, that could be EQ'd and sound good, rather than The Battle of Evermore with a slightly louder mandolin. That would have been far more of a "portal" into the creative process, than a near-final different mix. Page got it wrong. I am I opinion you’re a douche bag I love the companion desks and I love Led Zeppelin GREATEST BAND OF ALL TIME ! P E R I O D ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zep Nut Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Zep Nut said: In my opinion FLARES is a complete douche bag I love the companion discs And I love Led Zeppelin GREATEST BAND OF ALL TIME . P E R I O D People like this “FLARE” Will never understand that 1 minute ago, Zep Nut said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zep Nut Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Flares is completely wrong I love the companion discs And I love everything Led Zeppelin We’re talking about the greatest band of all time!!!!!!! And some idiot wants to trash them???? Flares must’ve been deprived of his mama’s milk when he was a child The hatred he shows towards jimmy page is just absolutely outrageous Page. Is an absolute genius.! It always cracks me up when people talk about sloppy play He did it on purpose you imbecile It just shows me you don’t get Led Zeppelin and you certainly don’t get Jimmy page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zep Nut Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Honestly, I can’t get enough of the companion discs They are awesome. It takes me right into the creative process. I feel like I’m right in the studio with zeppelin FLARES sounds like a bitter old man who just wants the trash zeppelin I can’t quit listening to them. I just absolutely love the companion discs. I love being taken right in and hear how the song was made Unfortunately, for people like flares they don’t get this But I guess whatever floats your boat For me as an enormous zeppelin fan I absolutely love them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zep Nut Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Once again, I just cannot get enough of the companion discs Bravo, Jimmy page bravo!!!!!!! I love being taken right into the creative process I swear to you, I listen to these things over and over and over and over because I just can’t get enough of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zep Nut Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 10:17 PM, Zep Nut said: I am I opinion you’re a douche bag I love the companion desks and I love Led Zeppelin GREATEST BAND OF ALL TIME ! P E R I O D ! Completely agree with your brother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Smith Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 10:17 PM, Zep Nut said: I am I opinion you’re a douche bag I love the companion desks and I love Led Zeppelin GREATEST BAND OF ALL TIME ! P E R I O D ! This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsj Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I liked that he “completely agree with you brother” to his own post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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