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I actually think this is the tip of the iceberg for artists and bands that are famous. I could see a record of jimmy page early works, all without vocals,  this way the listener could focus on the guitar and not hear dated vocals. From all the session stuff , yardbirds, lord sutch,  early zeppelin..........to a later release of later zeppelin, the firm, page and coverdale , page and plant material.......all without vocals. 

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Jesus! "Led Zeppelin" alone has a complete double live album with it! As a mixing engineer it's fascinating to hear the alt mixes especially the ones without vocals. Hearing different aspects of the mix breathing with renewed air is fascinating. Alt mixes like "Four Sticks" are just amazing and the stuff with "Presence" is exceptional. As for "Coda" that now becomes an absolute gold mine of lost material. 

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7 hours ago, Fat Albert 72 said:

Jesus! "Led Zeppelin" alone has a complete double live album with it! As a mixing engineer it's fascinating to hear the alt mixes especially the ones without vocals. Hearing different aspects of the mix breathing with renewed air is fascinating. Alt mixes like "Four Sticks" are just amazing and the stuff with "Presence" is exceptional. As for "Coda" that now becomes an absolute gold mine of lost material. 

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It's cool that the many fans on this thread are so enamored by the companion discs. Unfortunately, many defunct or even still rolling bands have much more comprehensive and varied box sets than Zep's. I do find some of the companion material interesting, but coming from possibly the greatest rock band ever, the releases are quite stark for me overall.

Regular CD's are barely sold anymore, but box sets which have the regular release and then 3 or 4 companion discs focused mainly on the original release are very common these days. Look, Jimmy's getting older, but for these releases Jimmy should have hired some expert help, because I feel that the gold standard surrounding Zep releases has been damaged to an extent. Started with Mothership, then puzzling edits/decisions on remastered TSRTS, and so on.

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I think that Physical Graffiti and ITTOD second CDs could have been a reduced version of Earls Court and Knebworth concerts, something like this:

Earls Court: Rock and Roll, Sick Again, In My Time of Dying, KashmirTangerine, Going to California, Thats the Way, Bron-Yr-Stomp, Trampled Under Foot, Stairway to Heaven.

Knebworth: The Song Remains the Same, Nobody’s Fault But Mine, Misty Mountain Hop, Since I’ve Been Loving You, Ten Years Gone, Hot Dog, Rain Song, Achilles Last Stand, In The Evening, Whole Lotta Love.

In bold, new unreleased live tracks and the rest are the same as the DVD tracks.

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Good idea, but I’d rather see an official companion live disc (cd, vinyl, digital) series. 
 

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On 1/28/2020 at 11:33 PM, Mithril46 said:

It's cool that the many fans on this thread are so enamored by the companion discs. Unfortunately, many defunct or even still rolling bands have much more comprehensive and varied box sets than Zep's. I do find some of the companion material interesting, but coming from possibly the greatest rock band ever, the releases are quite stark for me overall.

Regular CD's are barely sold anymore, but box sets which have the regular release and then 3 or 4 companion discs focused mainly on the original release are very common these days. Look, Jimmy's getting older, but for these releases Jimmy should have hired some expert help, because I feel that the gold standard surrounding Zep releases has been damaged to an extent. Started with Mothership, then puzzling edits/decisions on remastered TSRTS, and so on.

Page constantly states that he didn't want to put anything out there that had already been bootlegged or whatever.

What Mr. Page fails to understand is the VAST majority of Zep fans own zero bootlegs.  I know, the VAST majority of fans on this site DO own bootlegs, but almost every Zep fan I know owns none.  Why not take some of the bootlegged stuff, polish it up a bit, and officially release it?   

Neil Young has his own site, neilyoungarchives.com    FULL of stuff.  Each week a new streaming concert.  The ability to listen to all sorts of half baked attempts at songs.  And he's constantly adding more stuff (unreleased albums, three this year).  With Zep we get "oh gee it's been five years since I remastered the albums, a lot of new technology has come around since then, I'll remaster them again".  

I do agree that other bands have put our many hours of unheard music, and some of it is "meh" and some of it is "wow".  There is no way Stairway was done in one or two takes, you could do like Dylan did with "like a Rolling Stone" where he released I think 50 attempts on the song in his archives.

Oh well, I will stop ranting.  

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