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Once they started putting rap "artists"in the R&RHOF it became a joke. Even maddonna was voted in, and before RUSH was for God's sake.

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On the subject of solo Ringo, I have got to vote "No". It's not HoF worthy, in my opinion. But then, they've already allowed in lesser candidates, so it's a moot point now.

Well, like I say, if George was considered worthy, I don't see why they should leave out Ringo...I believe the Ringo album is still the only Beatles solo album which featured more than one #1 single. Add to that his post-Beatles session work...hey, with the way things are going when it comes to how many Beatles alumni are left, ol' Rich will probably end up being the last man standing!

Once they started putting rap "artists"in the R&RHOF it became a joke. Even maddonna was voted in, and before RUSH was for God's sake.

Again, Jann Wenner/Rolling Stone magazine have always liked Madonna. Rush (and Prog Rock in general)...er, not so much. I agree, though, they should just be honest and change the goddamn name from "Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame" to "Popular Music Hall Of Fame".

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Well, Ringo made it anyway. :)

If you're a true Beatles fan and haven't seen these two movies, then I recommend them highly. :)

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I was raised on The Beatles during the 70s and early 80s. I owned all of their Capital albums on vinyl and then all their EMI cds.

My love for Zeppelin and The Beatles is a weird brother against brother battle. I had cliches, but the apples and oranges thing really does apply here. Both are fruits, both taste great and both are good for you. Still both taste and fell differently and it depends on which mood you are in at the moment. You can make that analogy with anything, but I think it really applies to these two bands, at least in my world.

I also love The Who but less than these two.

I like The Stones quite a bit but with them I'm more of a signature tracks fan.

I think Zeppelin and The Beatles are the two bands that, although, have different foundations and influences (Beatles - R&B, Zeppelin-Blues) both have the most in common as it applies to delving into various genres and studio experimentation.

It should really be no surprise that they are the top two bands off all time commercially. Usually, stats and figures can be misleading, but in this case, I think it speaks genuinely to the greatness of each group.

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I had cliches, but the apples and oranges thing really does apply here. Both are fruits, both taste great and both are good for you. Still both taste and fell differently and it depends on which mood you are in at the moment. You can make that analogy with anything, but I think it really applies to these two bands, at least in my world.

More like apples and lemons, amirite?

Amirite?

You know, as in Apple Records?

And The Lemon Song?

C'mon.

I was making witty wordplay with a twist on the apples and oranges reference.

Is this thing on?

I'll just shut up now.

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More like apples and lemons, amirite?

Amirite?

You know, as in Apple Records?

And The Lemon Song?

C'mon.

I was making witty wordplay with a twist on the apples and oranges reference.

Is this thing on?

I'll just shut up now.

Ba-dum-bum! :drumz:

haha just kidding man that was pretty clever. ;)

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‘The Beatles 1′ to Receive Deluxe Reissue

 

The Beatles‘ bestselling best-of collection, The Beatles 1, is getting the deluxe reissue treatment this fall.

Due in stores Nov. 6, the newly expanded Beatles 1 makes a number of changes to the original release, chief among them the addition of dozens of promotional videos — all newly restored, many being made commercially available for the first time. According to a press release, “An 18-person team of film and video technicians and restoration artists was assembled by Apple Corps to undertake painstaking frame-by-frame cleaning, color-grading, digital enhancement and new edits that took months of dedicated, ’round-the-clock work to accomplish.”

On the audio front, fans can look forward to hearing new stereo mixes of the album, which collects 27 of the band’s biggest hits, as well as mixes in 5.1 Dolby Digital and DTS HD surround audio.

The reissue will be available in a variety of configurations, including single-disc CD, DVD, and Blu-ray versions, as well as CD/DVD and CD/Blu-ray combo packs and a two-LP vinyl edition. Die-hard fans will also have the chance to spring for The Beatles 1+, a deluxe package that adds a bonus DVD or Blu-ray featuring alternate versions of many videos as well as “an expanded 124-page illustrated hardcover book which includes ‘an appreciation’ of The Beatles’ groundbreaking films and videos by music journalist and author Mark Ellen and extensive, detailed track/video annotation by music historian and author Richard Havers.”

The new Beatles 1 and Beatles 1+ reissue is available for pre-order now.

‘The Beatles 1′ Reissue Track Listing
 

Disc 1:
 

“Love Me Do”
“From Me to You”
“She Loves You”
“I Want to Hold Your Hand”
“Can’t Buy Me Love”
“A Hard Day’s Night”
“I Feel Fine”
“Eight Days a Week”
“Ticket to Ride”
“Help!”
“Yesterday”
“Day Tripper”
“We Can Work It Out”
“Paperback Writer”
“Yellow Submarine”
“Eleanor Rigby”
“Penny Lane”
“All You Need Is Love”
“Hello, Goodbye”
“Lady Madonna”
“Hey Jude”
“Get Back”
“The Ballad of John and Yoko”
“Something”
“Come Together”
“Let It Be”
“The Long and Winding Road”

 

Disc 2:
 

Video running order repeats from Disc 1, plus:
Paul McCartney audio commentary for “Penny Lane,” Hello, Goodbye, “Hey Jude”
Ringo Starr filmed introductions for “Penny Lane,” “Hello, Goodbye, “Hey Jude, “Get Back”

‘The Beatles 1+’ Bonus Material
Disc 2 includes videos for:
“Twist & Shout”
“Baby It’s You”
“Words of Love”
“Please Please Me”
“I Feel Fine”
“Day Tripper” (alternate)
“Day Tripper” (alternate)
“We Can Work It Out” (alternate)
“Paperback Writer” (alternate)
“Rain” (alternate)
“Rain” (alternate)
“Strawberry Fields Forever” (plus Paul McCartney audio commentary)
“Within You Without You/Tomorrow Never Knows”
“A Day in the Life”
“Hello, Goodbye” (alternate)
“Hello, Goodbye” (alternate)
“Hey Bulldog”
“Hey Jude” (alternate)
“Revolution”
“Get Back” (alternate)
“Free as a Bird”
“Real Love”



Read More: 'The Beatles 1' to Receive Deluxe Reissue | http://ultimateclassicrock.com/beatles-1-reissue/?trackback=tsmclip

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Pre ordered the 1+ Deluxe Blu-Ray set. I think this is going to see the end of DVDs (you know who) reign as the best selling music video.

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Pre ordered the 1+ Deluxe Blu-Ray set. I think this is going to see the end of DVDs (you know who) reign as the best selling music video.

Yea people are going nuts over on the Steve Hoffman Music Forums lol. I'll be getting the 1CD/1DVD set, I still haven't upgraded to Blu-Ray. :blush:

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Yea people are going nuts over on the Steve Hoffman Music Forums lol.

It doesn't take much to get the Beatles obsessives over at the Hoffman site worked up, a rumour that somebody heard Paul or Ringo farting can usually do it :lol: One look at that place on any given day you'd swear it Beatles.com in disguise. Easy to see why the non-Beatles obsessed members over there get so pissed off over the amount of Beatles minutae that gets discussed over and over again...I gave up on that place a while ago, too many budding Mark David Chapmans there for my liking.

I love The Beatles, but I've never owned or even heard the 1 compilation...my scratchy old copies of the Red and Blue albums have always been sufficient for me as far as "Best of's" go.

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It doesn't take much to get the Beatles obsessives over at the Hoffman site worked up, a rumour that somebody heard Paul or Ringo farting can usually do it :lol: One look at that place on any given day you'd swear it Beatles.com in disguise. Easy to see why the non-Beatles obsessed members over there get so pissed off over the amount of Beatles minutae that gets discussed over and over again...I gave up on that place a while ago, too many budding Mark David Chapmans there for my liking.

I love The Beatles, but I've never owned or even heard the 1 compilation...my scratchy old copies of the Red and Blue albums have always been sufficient for me as far as "Best of's" go.

Yea, I also can't get over the amount of love for Taylor Swift and Miley Cyrus over there. Seriously, :wtf:!!!

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/has-taylor-swift-reached-legendary-status-yet.443941/

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/miley-cyrus-and-her-dead-petz-free-album-drop.460372/

:hurl:

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Beatles' Cavern Club Tape Found After 53 Years
Recording of Some Other Guy was made a month before debut single launched

A tape of the Beatles performing in Liverpool’s Cavern Club has been found after 53 years.

The recording of Some Other Guy was made in September 1962 – just four weeks before the Fab Four’s debut single Love Me Do was released.

TV producer Johnnie Hamp found the reel in a desk drawer, and plans to auction it for charity next month.

It was made because a crew had filmed the Beatles in the Cavern for an appearance on Granada TV’s Know The North – but the sound quality was so poor that an overdub was required.

The show was never aired due to legal issues, but band manager Brian Epstein asked for five acetates to be made because he was so pleased with the tape.

The only known one of those raised £16,000 at an auction in 1993. The reel is to be sold by Adam Partridge in Liverpool on November 5.

This week the only management contract signed by Epstein and all four Beatles reached a price of £365,000. Their first-ever record contract, for the Tony Sheridan And The Beat Brothers recording in 1962, raised £48,000 in September.

Source : http://classicrock.teamrock.com/news/2015-10-02/beatles-cavern-club-tape-found-after-50-years

 

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Beatlemania and bed-ins: When John and Yoko came to Canada

In an excerpt from his book Christ You Know It Ain't Easy, journalist Ritchie Yorke recalls the time he spent with John Lennon and Yoko Ono during their 1969 peace campaign.

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Australian author and journalist Ritchie Yorke had a bedside view of John Lennon and Yoko Ono’s 1969 peace campaign, which included an eight-day bed-in at Montreal’s Queen Elizabeth Hotel. The couple landed first in Toronto, where Yorke got a taste of the Beatlemania that still followed Lennon, and a sense of the politics that would come to define his legacy.

By the time May 1969 had rolled around, the Lennons realized it was imperative to take their War Is Over peace campaign to North America. To the United States, the centre of militarism and the principal perpetrators of a war against the internal affairs of another country, Vietnam. 

But there was a major hurdle — John was barred from entry into the U.S. because of a minor marijuana bust in 1968, when he and Yoko were staying in Ringo Starr’s London flat. They were charged with possession of a small amount of hash and, hoping to simplify the legal minefield, John pleaded guilty and the charges against Yoko were dropped. The blot on his record would be used as a reason to deny John immigration status in the U.S. for several years.

Initially John and Yoko flew to the Bahamas and spent a night at the Sheraton Oceanus Hotel, where they were charged $130 (U.S.) for a room service orange juice and pushy hotel staff demanded tips for services rendered — before they were rendered. Beatles confidant and publicist Derek Taylor was not impressed by this rip-off. “It was too hot down there, too far from the U.S. and the hotels were terrible,” he declared. 

 

Yoko Ono and John Lennon in Canada during their 1969 peace campaign. Journalist Ritchie Yorke is seen in background.

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Yoko Ono and John Lennon in Canada during their 1969 peace campaign. Journalist Ritchie Yorke is seen in background.

So the party flew on to Toronto. I was sitting at my desk at the Globe and Mail on a day full of the promise of spring when a call came through from the King Edward Sheraton Hotel. It was Derek Taylor, my esteemed colleague from Apple Corps. 

“Ritchie, hi there, it’s Derek. Look, mate, we’re in Toronto and wondered if you could come over for a bit of a chat? We’ve got a bit of a problem you may be able to help us with, Ritchie.”

“Well, of course I can,” I replied and was soon heading along King St. to the King Eddie. I found John and Yoko, along with Derek, in very convivial spirits, but looking for a bit of guidance. Here they were in Canada, and after undergoing a gruelling immigration interview, they had been granted temporary visitor status for a period of 10 days. They’d found the Bahamas prohibitive in several ways, and were looking for a new location for their second Bed-In for Peace, this time an event organized to reach the heartland of U.S. media. 

But where would they do it? Toronto the Good, heart of Canadian WASP-ville and old school straightness and conservatism? Doubtful. After some intense discussion, we arrived at the conclusion that Montreal would be the ideal location for the second Bed-In. It was cosmopolitan, edgy, not traditional English and, most importantly, an hour distant from the U.S. media power centre of New York City.

On the afternoon of May 26, they invited me to join them on their departure for the airport and for the chance of an exclusive behind-the-scenes interview. But what an escape it would be! I had never seen Beatlemania in its full roar, but I was to be exposed to an alarming taste of it in the corridors of the King Eddie and in the limo tooling out to the airport. 

It was meant to be a top-secret exit from the hotel. We’d left several phone lines angrily buzzing, carnations littered over beds and rugs, unopened letters and telegrams, even an advance signed copy of novelist (and fellow hotel guest) Jacqueline Susann’s latest semi-pornographic epic — dumped in the trash can covered with John Lennon’s fingerprints.

 

John Lennon and Yoko Ono in Toronto in May 1969. As they left the King Edward Hotel for the airport to go to Montreal, their car was mobbed by fans.

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John Lennon and Yoko Ono in Toronto in May 1969. As they left the King Edward Hotel for the airport to go to Montreal, their car was mobbed by fans.

A porter had gathered up the bags and a limousine was waiting in the hotel basement. But after slipping out of the room we were assailed by a pack of fans gathering steam down the corridor. There were several score of them, passionate and poised to pounce. Under the direction of past fan-mania master and never-panicked Derek Taylor, we blazed down the corridor towards the hordes. Along the way, the universe granted us safe passage. A nearby service elevator bobbed up at our urgent button pushing. We dived inside, just as the hordes reached us. The door closed on the jostling, shouting mob.

In the basement, we hurried towards the limo but suddenly the fans were on us. All over us. The car was covered in a crush of slithering bodies — fervent fans desperate to find some physical connection with John Lennon of the Beatles. Just to touch him, reach him, grab him and capture him! 

But the car offered protection and as it eased forward the frenzied fans slipped, jumped or fell off. These were mere skirmishes in the everyday life of John Lennon and any of the Beatles. As the limo scooted away, John sat back and heaved a sigh of relief. He looked tired. Yoko was nonchalant. Lennon, all in white, sighed again and observed to nobody in particular: “I think Ringo was right about us not touring.” And later: “The Beatles are just a democratic group of middle-aged teenagers. We just don’t happen to agree on doing concert tours. I’ve wanted to do some for a while, but I’m not sure anymore

It was an uneventful ride to the Toronto airport, a welcome respite from the madding crowds. Pleasant conversation and gentle reflections pervaded the Caddie. But the punters and fans were never far from sight. We arrived unannounced at the airport but in no more than a minute a crowd had gathered and we were ushered into a small, vacant room. We sat there for over an hour while the Lennons awaited their flight to Montreal and the launch of the second Bed-In — there was John, Yoko, her daughter Kyoko, who was 5, a Beatles cameraman and myself. 

It was a chance to catch up on a number of matters and I didn’t hold back. There were a few lurking topics I was keen to raise, such as the storm of controversy that had accompanied the November 1968 release of the Two Virgins album, which pictured John and Yoko naked on its jacket. 

“I expected some noise about the cover shot but not as much as we got,” John sheepishly admitted. “I’d planned to produce an album with Yoko before we became lovers. Paul had (as a protégé) Mary Hopkin while George had Jackie Lomax, but I wanted to do something with Yoko. I was in India meditating about the album, when it suddenly hit me. I wrote Yoko telling her that I planned to have her in the nude on the cover. She was quite surprised, but nowhere near as much as George or Paul. Paul gave me long lectures about it, and said, ‘Is there really any need for this?’ It took me five months to persuade them (to let it be).

“It was a natural turn of events that I got into the picture too. When we got the pictures back, I admit I was a bit shocked. I thought, ‘Hello, we’re on.’ I figure that if I was mildly shocked, what would others think? But it was worth it for the howl that went up. It really blew their minds. It cleared the air a bit. People always try to kill anything that’s honest. The album wasn’t ugly — it was just a point of view.”

Lennon insisted he still believed the Beatles had more influence over young people than Jesus Christ, an outlook which brought a heavy load of wrath upon him when first mentioned three years previously. “Some ministers even stood up in their churches and agreed with it then,” John said. 

“Kids are still more influenced by us than by Jesus Christ, and make of that what you will. It says a lot. As it happens, I’m very big on Jesus Christ personally. I’ve always fancied him because he was honest. He said in his book that anyone who followed his ways would be knocked. He was so right about that! I’m always saying his name and talking about him.”

John’s supposed denigration of Jesus Christ has been vastly misunderstood, especially in the Bible Belt regions of rural America. John certainly was not boasting about the Beatles being more popular than Jesus Christ on some philosophical Top 40 preference chart. He thought it a defining factor in contemporary life that any pop group or musical act could be more keenly followed than a spiritual pundit. This said much about the society in which we exist. 

A couple of days after the Lennons had descended on Toronto en route to Montreal, I convinced my editors that I should be present bedside at the Queen Elizabeth Hotel where the Lennons were bedded in. It was an extremely colourful scene — a potted purple gloxinia plant, signs, placards and proclamations covering the walls, John’s Gibson guitar, candles, other burning objects and an expanding set of lyrics to a new and emerging Lennon song temptingly entitled “Give Peace a Chance.”

John’s assorted doodlings were everywhere. Yoko’s daughter Kyoko (from her marriage to U.S. filmmaker Tony Cox) offered an alternative to all the talk of non-violent anarchy and changing the world. On first inspection, the trappings of peace were everywhere. John and Yoko were perched on the bed in white pyjamas and there were vases of pale pastel-coloured flowers, while a bunch of scribblings and sketches adorned the walls of the suite.

 

John Lennon and Yoko Ono's "Bed-In for Peace" at Montreal's Queen Elizabeth Hotel was a colourful scene, recalls Ritchie Yorke (seated on the floor beside Lennon, taking notes).

Ritchie Yorke Project archives

John Lennon and Yoko Ono's "Bed-In for Peace" at Montreal's Queen Elizabeth Hotel was a colourful scene, recalls Ritchie Yorke (seated on the floor beside Lennon, taking notes).

Just before they settled on Montreal as the location for the second Bed-In, there had been significant anti-war protests on U.S. campuses. Harvard students had gone on strike, while in Berkeley, Calif., students had objected to private property rights and occupied a communal space called People’s Park on a vacant lot owned by the University of California. As the Montreal Bed-In unfolded, university officials had asked police to clear out and destroy the park. A contingent of about 800 police officers hammered into 6,000 demonstrators, killing one, blinding another and injuring more than 100 others. This led to a further demonstration of 20,000 students marching in protest against police brutality and the closure of the park.

John was horrified by these developments and was keen to play a role in a peaceful resolution of the problems. He made himself available to radio station KPFA on a regular basis to discuss the confrontation. He was totally opposed to confrontational tactics, which inevitably led to more violence. 

“I don’t believe there’s any park worth getting shot for. You can do better by moving on to another city or going to Canada. Then they’ve got nothing to attack and nobody to point the finger at,” John declared from his bed in La Belle Province.

The KPFA announcer was desperately anxious to know how John would handle the situation if he were on deck in Berkeley. “I’d be urging a music festival to take place. Sing Hare Krishna or something. But don’t move about if it aggravates the pigs, don’t get hassled by the cops, don’t play their games. I know it’s hard. Christ, you know it ain’t easy, you know how hard it can be. But everything’s hard — it’s better to have it hard than not have it at all.”

I sat on the floor in John and Yoko’s room and listened to him expound on his principles of peace.

“You’ve got to entice the police! Calm them! You can make it, man! We can make it — together! Just don’t fall into those same old traps.”

He continued to explain the scenario as he saw it from 2,500 miles away in Montreal. “The students are being conned. It’s just like the typical school bully — he aggravates you and aggravates you until you try to hit him. And then they kill you, like has happened in Berkeley. The Establishment — it’s just a name for evil. The monster doesn’t care — the blue meanie is insane. We really care about life. Destruction is good enough for the Establishment. The only thing they can’t control is the mind. And we have to fight for sanity and peace on that level. But the students have gotten conned into thinking they can change it with violence and they can’t, you know. They can only make it uglier and worse.”

 


 

Excerpted from Christ You Know It Ain’t Easy: John and Yoko’s Battle for Peace. Published by Ritchie Yorke Publishing. Copyright © 2015 by Ritchie Yorke. All rights reserved. Available on Kobo and at Amazon.ca.

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2015/10/10/beatlemania-and-bed-ins-when-john-and-yoko-came-to-canada.html

 

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