pluribus Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Xolo1974 said: The more I explore this matter, the more bloody confusing it gets š @pluribusĀ @porgie66. I managed to download from guitars 101 the EV 9 disc release from last year.Ā Iāve listened to what they call the āCobra sourceā and Iām not that impressed. Doesnāt sound as good as the YouTube post above.Ā The EV release also has a TMOQ alternate source. God knows what that is. Also an Antrabata source EV's Cobra source is Source 5, TMOQ alternate source is Source 3, andĀ Antrabata source is Source 4. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porgie66 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, pluribus said: EV's Cobra source is Source 5, TMOQ alternate source is Source 3, andĀ Antrabata source is Source 4. Ā Wow! That's completely different than Brannons info. Now I'm confused!Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluribus Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, porgie66 said: Wow! That's completely different than Brannons info. Now I'm confused!Ā Brannon refers toĀ Source 4 and Source 5 based on his definition of what eachĀ sourceāsĀ firstĀ appearance was. What he calls Source 5, mostĀ people refer to as Source 4,Ā theĀ Tarantura ānewā source from the 90s.Ā It wasnāt until Source 5 appeared in the 2000s thatĀ people realized that parts of that one had been used as a splicing source on bootlegsĀ before the Tarantura Source 4 came out.Ā Edited October 23, 2018 by pluribus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Moon Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 6 hours ago, porgie66 said: Do you know what their source mix is? I think it maļ»æy be the same as the fan share on dime from some years ago with the same title.Ā Ā The following is the text from that version. I have no idea. It is stereo, donĀ“t know if only one source or different sources has been used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 6 hours ago, pluribus said: EV's Cobra source is Source 5, TMOQ alternate source is Source 3, andĀ Antrabata source is Source 4. Ā Thanks mate. Iāve now checked out the TMOQ alt source. I think itās the best by a mile.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlennon696 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I know Wendy released a 9CD set earlier this year, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 It was so much easier pre CD, early seventies I had two versions, aĀ 2 LP TMOQ on red and amber vinyl in stereo and a 2 LP set onĀ black vinyl which was mono (can't temember the label). Now there are six sources the lineage of them is often confused, source numbers sometimes wrong, tweaked for this, tweaked for that. Best thing to do is download them all then make your own desicion as to which is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porgie66 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 12 hours ago, pluribus said: Brannon refers toĀ Source 4 and Source 5 based on his definition of what eachĀ sourceāsĀ firstĀ appearance was. What he calls Source 5, mostĀ people refer to as Source 4,Ā theĀ Tarantura ānewā source from the 90s.Ā It wasnāt until Source 5 appeared in the 2000s thatĀ people realized that parts of that one had been used as a splicing source on bootlegsĀ before the Tarantura Source 4 came out.Ā Thanks for clarifying, I knew you could. šš¼ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 12 hours ago, JTM said: It was so much easier pre CD, early seventies I had two versions, aĀ 2 LP TMOQ on red and amber vinyl in stereo and a 2 LP set onĀ black vinyl which was mono (can't temember the label). Now there are six sources the lineage of them is often confused, source numbers sometimes wrong, tweaked for this, tweaked for that. Best thing to do is download them all then make your own desicion as to which is best. Yeah thatās what Iāve done and Ā Iām left with four: Eat a Peach, Heavy Vibraphones, Cobra Source and the partial āDubā version.Ā Iāll make call on which is the best one over the next couple of weeks.Ā I also have the recent Graf Zeppelin release for Christmas. Does anyone know which sources were used on this?Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluribus Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 10 hours ago, porgie66 said: Thanks for clarifying, I knew you could. šš¼ š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepster1979 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Xolo1974 said: Yeah thatās what Iāve done and Ā Iām left with four: Eat a Peach, Heavy Vibraphones, Cobra Source and the partial āDubā version.Ā Iāll make call on which is the best one over the next couple of weeks.Ā I also have the recent Graf Zeppelin release for Christmas. Does anyone know which sources were used on this?Ā Ā Check www.argenteumastrum.comĀ That site is much better in detailed source breakdown than Bootledz IMO. Edited October 24, 2018 by zepster1979 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, zepster1979 said: Check www.argenteumastrum.comĀ That site is much better in detailed source breakdown than Bootledz IMO. Thanks mate. Already tried it but no infoĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepster1979 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I've checked and the new BH title on the Golden Eggs is based upon source #4Ā (a stereophonic source that was released years ago by the Beelzebub CDR solely and used by Cobra on their mixdown years back) and is completed by source #3 (Mud Dogs) and source #5 (Tarantura 1997). Looks like it is a different mix than Cobra's and keeping in mind of what the label did with previous version, it should be one to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluribus Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 9 hours ago, zepster1979 said: I've checked and the new BH title on the Golden Eggs is based upon source #4Ā (a stereophonic source that was released years ago by the Beelzebub CDR solely and used by Cobra on their mixdown years back) and is completed by source #3 (Mud Dogs) and source #5 (Tarantura 1997). Looks like it is a different mix than Cobra's and keeping in mind of what the label did with previous version, it should be one to get. Have you compared it to Empress Valley āCobraāĀ source mix from the box set, or Winston Remasters Great Love Affair? Is it a clone of one of those? I think those are the only mixes based around that source (stereo Source 4 aka Source 5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porgie66 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, pluribus said: Have you compared it to Empress Valley āCobraāĀ source mix from the box set, or Winston Remasters Great Love Affair? Is it a clone of one of those? I think those are the only mixes based around that source (stereo Source 4 aka Source 5) Winston's is based on that stereo source and it's a decent effort. I think Moonchild pressed his on silvers.Ā I highly doubt Gold Eggshells did anything more than maybe EQ what was already freely available on the internet.Ā Edited October 26, 2018 by porgie66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepster1979 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, pluribus said: Have you compared it to Empress Valley āCobraāĀ source mix from the box set, or Winston Remasters Great Love Affair? Is it a clone of one of those? I think those are the only mixes based around that source (stereo Source 4 aka Source 5) This is the same mix but not the clone. Source transitions are much better done, and the quality is better as both, Cobra and EV, have tweaked their copys heavily. What made me especially surprised is a source breakdown between the banter before the Whole Lotta Love and the song itself, where there's a cut on the stereophonic tape. Golden Eggs did a great job, splicing another excellent sounding source here, making this transition very smooth, not jarring at all. Overall, this is a hugeĀ improvement over of what was available for that source for years. Winsotn is tweaked as hell also, and the source transitions are poorly done IMO. Edited October 26, 2018 by zepster1979 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 hours ago, zepster1979 said: This is the same mix but not the clone. Source transitions are much better done, and the quality is better as both, Cobra and EV, have tweaked their copys heavily. What made me especially surprised is a source breakdown between the banter before the Whole Lotta Love and the song itself, where there's a cut on the stereophonic tape. Golden Eggs did a great job, splicing another excellent sounding source here, making this transition very smooth, not jarring at all. Overall, this is a hugeĀ improvement over of what was available for that source for years. Winsotn is tweaked as hell also, and the source transitions are poorly done IMO. Oh, so youāve heard this? Bloody hell that was quick. Is it definitive? If so thatās great. Iāve never heard anything before from this label that is my go to.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepster1979 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I'd say it's much closer to be a definitive than previous mixes of these sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Quota Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Has anyone tried a matrix combining the sources? Ā It works with aud and sb to enhance the overall sound Ā Maybe the aud sources overlapping could do the same? Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 6 hours ago, No Quota said: Has anyone tried a matrix combining the sources? Ā It works with aud and sb to enhance the overall sound Ā Maybe the aud sources overlapping could do the same? Ā There is one, it's known as the three sourceĀ "Slumpy Matrix"Ā Source 1 - Blueberry Hill [Genuine Masters]Ā Source 2 - Blueberry Hill [5th source]Ā Source 3 - Blueberry Hill [Rubber Dubber] - patches onlyĀ Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moby_Dick_Ale Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 10:46 AM, Xolo1974 said: Thanks mate. Already tried it but no infoĀ No info? You must be kidding! Did you really check this site? www.argenteumastrum.com ---> Tour Dates ---> 1970 ---> Sith North American Tour ---> scroll down to September 4th Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZepHead315 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, No Quota said: Has anyone tried a matrix combining the sources? Ā It works with aud and sb to enhance the overall sound Ā Maybe the aud sources overlapping could do the same? Ā A user on Royal Orleans is attempting to do just that. He's using four sources: TMOQ, Rubber Dubber and Sources 3 and 5. He's posted a few samples here and there, but it's still a work in progress: Since I've Been Loving You:Ā https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ccID7JAkApaPpji1NrujUZj_ZF2j2Lyp/view Bring It On Home:Ā https://drive.google.com/file/d/10O6r-RBEiizMS47vTntXmUEI_AWZ6t5A/view Dazed and Confused:Ā https://drive.google.com/file/d/1drFqe36V4cgxuEsDc0foneq6i6DxaeRU/view Ā Edited October 28, 2018 by ZepHead315 Added links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Moby_Dick_Ale said: No info? You must be kidding! Did you really check this site? www.argenteumastrum.com ---> Tour Dates ---> 1970 ---> Sith North American Tour ---> scroll down to September 4th Ā Oh just checked it out. Thanks. So if Iām reading it right, it looks like the recent Graf Zeppelin release uses sources 3 (primary) and source 2 (patches). Well in that case thatās terrific, as theyāre my favourite two sources. Canāt wait to hear it. I think this will be definitive for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porgie66 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Xolo1974 said: Oh just checked it out. Thanks. So if Iām reading it right, it looks like the recent Graf Zeppelin release uses sources 3 (primary) and source 2 (patches). Well in that case thatās terrific, as theyāre my favourite two sources. Canāt wait to hear it. I think this will be definitive for me Very curious to hear this one, and how it compares to the cobra version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, porgie66 said: Very curious to hear this one, and how it compares to the cobra version Iāll provide it to you George as soon as i can. As you know itās my Christmas present from the kids š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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