The Rover Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) So here's the deal... I realize that the photo of Jimmy with the double neck, used on the cover of HTWWW, and also, found on page 11 of the booklet with the Blu-Ray, was taken by James Fortune. The Image Credit is on page 19 (James Fortune/ Rock and Roll Gallery). But, what I don't get, at the Rock and Roll Gallery website (perhaps incorrectly) it cites the photo as: LOS ANGELES FORUM, 1973 Photo used on the cover of Led Zeppelin's "How The West Was Won" cd. http://www.rockandrollgallery.com/catalog/LZ-JF-011.html Could someone higher up here contact the Rock and Roll Gallery to straighten this out? But, if the photo was indeed from 1973... then how strange that is for a release from 1972! As an aside, the Fortune photo of Jimmy is the only photo on the HTWWW cover that is also used inside the booklet. The cover photo, is found in five different places in the HTWWW Blu-Ray packaging and booklet front and back covers. Edited March 26, 2018 by The Rover Quote
SteveAJones Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 40 minutes ago, The Rover said: So here's the deal... I realize that the photo of Jimmy with the double neck, used on the cover of HTWWW, and also, found on page 11 of the booklet with the Blu-Ray, was taken by James Fortune. The Image Credit is on page 19 (James Fortune/ Rock and Roll Gallery). But, what I don't get, at the Rock and Roll Gallery website (perhaps incorrectly) it cites the photo as: LOS ANGELES FORUM, 1973 Photo used on the cover of Led Zeppelin's "How The West Was Won" cd. http://www.rockandrollgallery.com/catalog/LZ-JF-011.html Could someone higher up here contact the Rock and Roll Gallery to straighten this out? But, if the photo was indeed from 1973... then how strange that is for a release from 1972! As an aside, the Fortune photo of Jimmy is the only photo on the HTWWW cover that is also used inside the booklet. The cover photo, is found in five different places in the HTWWW Blu-Ray packaging and booklet front and back covers. According to this photo taken within a moment or two of it, the photo would have been taken May 31, 1973. http://www.ledzeppelin.com/photos/led-zeppelin/1972-1973/l-1973-0 Quote
The Rover Posted March 27, 2018 Author Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SteveAJones said: According to this photo taken within a moment or two of it, the photo would have been taken May 31, 1973. http://www.ledzeppelin.com/photos/led-zeppelin/1972-1973/l-1973-0 So why did Led Zeppelin intentionally choose to use a 1973 photo for a live set from 1972?? Sloppy ?? Just don't care??? Edited March 27, 2018 by The Rover Quote
babysquid Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, The Rover said: So why did Led Zeppelin intentionally choose to use a 1973 photo for a live set from 1972?? Sloppy ?? Just don't care??? Or does it really matter? Are any of the other photos on the cover not from 1972? Are they all from the LA forum or Long Beach? Are the pictures on BBC sessions from all 1969 or 71? Does this make you angry? Do you want to smash your copy of HTWWW to pieces with “the object” from Presence and send Jimmy Page the bill?😀 Ok I do get where your coming from, I mean it would look a bit stupid if they’d peppered the booklet with pictures from Knebworth and Scandinavia ‘68! But only the most true sticklers for details and ardent eyed Zeppelin fans are really going to be concerned with this! Edited March 27, 2018 by babysquid Quote
The Rover Posted March 27, 2018 Author Posted March 27, 2018 1 hour ago, babysquid said: Or does it really matter? But only the most true sticklers for details and ardent eyed Zeppelin fans are really going to be concerned with this! And you're talking to one now. And yes, it matters, because I think such an error is just stupid. They had plenty of 1972 photos to use. What a Legacy. Nothing is as it appears. And I know exactly where you're coming from! So stop attacking me for being a stickler. Isn't it amazing that you'd find sticklers about LZ on a LZ board!!! Quote
SteveAJones Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 9 hours ago, The Rover said: And you're talking to one now. And yes, it matters, because I think such an error is just stupid. They had plenty of 1972 photos to use. What a Legacy. Nothing is as it appears. And I know exactly where you're coming from! So stop attacking me for being a stickler. Isn't it amazing that you'd find sticklers about LZ on a LZ board!!! To me, the bigger issue here by far is releasing a recording that is purposefully edited with some content omitted. Of course we understand why, BUT it just goes to show you this isn't meant to be taken as gospel, it's a live cd release by a rock band under contract to a major label. Legacy? Come on, man. I know that terms gets thrown around here and elsewhere, but they aren't the US Marine Corps or Mother Theresa. They are just a popular rock band who continues to release commercial compact discs long after disbandment. Quote
sixpense Posted March 27, 2018 Posted March 27, 2018 The band provided a book filled with photos from the two recorded shows in the Super Deluxe version. That is enough for me. Quote
pluribus Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 FWIW Page has photos from the Blueberry Hill show listed on his personal webpage as being from 8/21/71, which happens to also be the same show that John Paul Jones swore that the crowd gave an 8 minute standing ovation to Stairway to Heaven. So, yeah, memory about these things isn't always completely accurate. I don't blame the band or the various photographers mistaking a concert photo. A lot of photos are mis-dated. What does surprise me is when a bootleg label like Empress Valley puts the wrong photos on the artwork to a show. Being in the business that they are in, they no doubt have access to all the same resources that fans do. Yet, most of the EV releases use photos without much regard for the actual date of the show they're actually releasing. Especially the "Soundboard Revolution" series. Most of those shows have photos from a different date on the artwork, even when there are numerous common photos available. Even a simple look on the lz.com site will easily identify which photos go to which shows. Quote
SteveAJones Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 On 3/28/2018 at 11:48 AM, pluribus said: FWIW Page has photos from the Blueberry Hill show listed on his personal webpage as being from 8/21/71, which happens to also be the same show that John Paul Jones swore that the crowd gave an 8 minute standing ovation to Stairway to Heaven. So, yeah, memory about these things isn't always completely accurate. I don't blame the band or the various photographers mistaking a concert photo. A lot of photos are mis-dated. What does surprise me is when a bootleg label like Empress Valley puts the wrong photos on the artwork to a show. Being in the business that they are in, they no doubt have access to all the same resources that fans do. Yet, most of the EV releases use photos without much regard for the actual date of the show they're actually releasing. Especially the "Soundboard Revolution" series. Most of those shows have photos from a different date on the artwork, even when there are numerous common photos available. Even a simple look on the lz.com site will easily identify which photos go to which shows. Empress Valley and bootleg labels in general couldn't care less about the historical accuracy of the packaging. They choose photos based on what they think will help the release sell. They may try to match a 1977 photo to a 1977 show, for example, but that's about the extent of it. Quote
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