irondirigible Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Just heard the news the other day that ABBA is going to release some new music later this year, and that they may do other work together too. They are not releasing 'new mixes' or remixes, or anything like that. They have recorded totally new, original songs. So, how shocking would it be if Led Zeppelin did this too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paplbojo Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 There is no Led Zeppelin. Led Zeppelin, in it's corporeal form, died in 1980. It's spirit lives on in us all. If the surviving members got together to record new stuff, and in a million years I can't see it happening, the only thing I could conceive they'd do is acoustic material and maybe acoustic/electric fusion, to opine on your question more directly. So, very shocking, to me. Alternatively, perhaps they could finish unfinished material. That I would absolutely love. Absolutely love! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boleskinner Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Last time I checked all the members of ABBA were still alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarthaMyDear6 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Oh no... I'm a little weirded out even about ABBA releasing new material...let alone Led Zeppelin. If John Bonham were alive, maybe so, but that's not to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irondirigible Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 Well, I hope my original post is accepted as a bit tongue in cheek. But its fact that ABBA are releasing brand new songs. That said, IF Page, Plant, and John Paul Jones got together and made an album - whatever it was - would you accept that they are Led Zeppelin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm2551 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, irondirigible said: Well, I hope my original post is accepted as a bit tongue in cheek. But its fact that ABBA are releasing brand new songs. That said, IF Page, Plant, and John Paul Jones got together and made an album - whatever it was - would you accept that they are Led Zeppelin? No. It would be a collaborative album from three guys who used to be in the same band. John Henry Bonham was one equal part Zep. Without him, you have 3/4. That is not Led Zeppelin. It cannot be re-created. The O2 was a nice one off gig, Jason on drums was a brilliant touch. but no, Zep is (sadly) gonesky. Having said that, I'd love to see what the three legends could do together. Even if it meant with one or two others as well (extra lead/rhythm guitarist, extra keyboard/multi instrumentalist to expand a live sound, and who would drum? Porgie maybe?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Different stratospheres of magic. The latter can't be recreated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniemouse Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 ABBA as previously mentioned still have all four original members with us and from what I can gather the new material, which is two to three new songs at best is interesting but not a full reboot. Where Led Zeppeling are for me at least No Bonzo: No Zep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigante Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 4 hours ago, rm2551 said: John Henry Bonham was one equal part Zep. Without him, you have 3/4. That is not Led Zeppelin. This, absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irondirigible Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 I completely get what people say about how it would not be the same band or the same magic. It wouldn't be. But with the three of them around, you have 75% of the band. Most bands that have been around a long time have seen at least some line up changes, some a huge number of line up changes. So the standards there of what constitutes "remaining the same band" are much lower than what we are talking about here. But I do get it. LZ could never - in essence - be the same again. But I am happy to hear them perform once a decade and I have no problem with them being called LZ for those shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paplbojo Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I suppose if it it's only Page, Plant and Jones then it's Led Zeppelin. Same as Friends, Going to California, Hats Off, Battle of Evermore...so if it's truly just those three, sure. If they bring in another drummer, no. Time for JPJ to learn a new instrument: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Ah, the old Theseus Paradox but to the extreme. As mentioned above most long lasting bands have personnel changes, some even only retaining a single original member yet they are still considered the same band. However, I am in the camp which believes Zeppelin as a group were a very unique combo of elements. I believe it was Robert who said four people or elements coming together which in affect created a fifth element. As a result, with Bonham gone that can never be recreated so the whole concept of Zeppelin ended late September 1980. If the three ever decided to record new material I would suggest calling it something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindwillie127 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 36 minutes ago, IpMan said: If the three ever decided to record new material I would suggest calling it something else. I think 'Ded Zeppelin' would be the appropriate title for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledded1 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Maybe Zep could follow Abba in doing a holgram tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the chase Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 19 hours ago, irondirigible said: Just heard the news the other day that ABBA is going to release some new music later this year, and that they may do other work together too. They are not releasing 'new mixes' or remixes, or anything like that. They have recorded totally new, original songs. So, how shocking would it be if Led Zeppelin did this too? It would be a lot more shocking than ABBA doing it. Not an expert on ABBA and their workings at all, but Led Zeppelin were very much a closed shop. The 4 of them made the music happen.. I couldn't name the Drummer for ABBA if you paid me.. unless I looked it up. Robert Plant will never do it.. Not a doubt in my mind. John Bonham was more than a friend and bandmate to him. Robert has said countless times how John and his wife Pat helped him and his Family get through the darkest period of their lives. Constantly there for them. Plant recently described Led Zeppelin's 50 years as "38 Years of darkness for a Family". He's not going to budge on this. He's moved on. I think Jimmy and John Paul have accepted it as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 They should team up & do a mash up of Dancing Queen/Days with John Paul Jones on lead vocals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingzepp Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 3:58 PM, irondirigible said: Just heard the news the other day that ABBA is going to release some new music later this year, and that they may do other work together too. They are not releasing 'new mixes' or remixes, or anything like that. They have recorded totally new, original songs. So, how shocking would it be if Led Zeppelin did this too? Wow. Strongly disagree. Abba can do it because their music is simple and dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAP Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Did Led Zeppelin played the o2 in 2007 ? cos JP, RP, JPJ, JB seemed to have confirmed that’s what happened. You could say it was as tribute to their former themselves as well as Ahmet I suppose. But if RP gave the green light tomorrow for led zeppelin activity live or recorded of any description then...... we would either accept it as legit or not but it has no bearing on what’s possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porgie66 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 14 hours ago, Brigante said: This, absolutely. +1, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the chase Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 hours ago, JAP said: Did Led Zeppelin played the o2 in 2007 ? cos JP, RP, JPJ, JB seemed to have confirmed that’s what happened. You could say it was as tribute to their former themselves as well as Ahmet I suppose. But if RP gave the green light tomorrow for led zeppelin activity live or recorded of any description then...... we would either accept it as legit or not but it has no bearing on what’s possible But he won’t give the green light. The 02 was it. Tribute to Ahmet. It made up for Live Aid and The Atlantic 40th. A thank you to us fans perhaps. But that’s all folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irondirigible Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 8 hours ago, the chase said: It would be a lot more shocking than ABBA doing it. Not an expert on ABBA and their workings at all, but Led Zeppelin were very much a closed shop. The 4 of them made the music happen.. I couldn't name the Drummer for ABBA if you paid me.. unless I looked it up. Robert Plant will never do it.. Not a doubt in my mind. John Bonham was more than a friend and bandmate to him. Robert has said countless times how John and his wife Pat helped him and his Family get through the darkest period of their lives. Constantly there for them. Plant recently described Led Zeppelin's 50 years as "38 Years of darkness for a Family". He's not going to budge on this. He's moved on. I think Jimmy and John Paul have accepted it as well.. Yeah, I read that article. Very sad reminder of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabe Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Fuck it! I'd would welcome any collaboration between the three surviving members of Led Zeppelin including Jason Bonham I could give a shit what the "band" would call itself. I would relish an attempt at studio time between these four to see if anything of merit emerges. No defined expectations, think not of monetary profit if possible, and limit lawyers as possible.... Just delving among inspiring locales (if needed) and situating in a compatible studio. See where it leads. (name the album, "jabe") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irondirigible Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 Well, it would be interesting if that happened. Who wouldn't be curious? These are massive talents we're talking about. My guess is that it would not sounds like LZ, but rather something else. The problem with great old bands coming back is that if their new work is not superb, it serves only to hearken back to their daves of greatness, which leaves one sad and wistful. Now, if a new LZ reunion in a studio did produce truly great music - well then, that would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAP Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Im not sure RP has moved on . His own words suggest he can’t get past JBs death and other sad events when it comes to LZ. He draws a link between the two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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