chillumpuffer Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) On 9/19/2018 at 9:23 PM, Autumn Moon said: Haha, live taping right in the living room, with one big advantage: we know when to flip the tape. Goddamn, need to connect the laptop with my amplifier somehow......... The Stones have their live archive releases, why can´t LZ do a proper job as well? Get an Arcam Digital to Analogue converter. I have one. Attach a USB cable from your laptop to this and cable it to your amp. I stream all my music and I also attach the TV to it and play it through my amp. Fantastic bit of kit https://www.whathifi.com/arcam/rdac/review Edited September 21, 2018 by chillumpuffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 hours ago, chillumpuffer said: Get an Arcam Digital to Analogue converter. I have one. Attach a USB cable from your laptop to this and cable it to your amp. I stream all my music and I also attach the TV to it and play it through my amp. Fantastic bit of kit https://www.whathifi.com/arcam/rdac/review Sweet...thank you Sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeron Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 If they really are gonna stream live material I hope there's gonna be some sort of schedule/itinerary posted in advanced so we don't miss shows we might be particularly interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummingbird69 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, porgie66 said: Oh , a glass is half empty type eh? 😏 I would gladly take a clear, mastered matrix aud/sbd mp3 any day over any lossless audience tape. Those already are plentifully available. Most hardcore fans have lossless audience transfers. I love how quickly people start with the negative vibes. Anyway, this sounds like real pie in the sky, but we shall see....🤔 If the stream is lossy then it's lossy. 320 is the best you can do with mp3 but they'll probably go with 128. Even if it's 256 K It won't matter what kind of matrix they do its lossy and will sound like shit. If you want to pay for low quality music then be my guest but don't try and shame me because I want it lossless. Edited September 21, 2018 by hummingbird69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef free Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 12:49 PM, Autumn Moon said: I guess this will make a lot of fans happy. On the other hand, does this mean there will be no physical releases (CD & Vinyl)??? For me this would be a HUGE letdown. I simply can`t enjoy music via my laptop and those shitty sounding speakers. Also, I can´t connect my laptop with my hifi system, which may be a little old but very good, no optical or digital input available. God, I hope they will release CDs & vinyl sets. If not, there is hope that the live-stream will be bootlegged. NON DOWNLOADABLE- I don´t think they get away with that nowadays...... If you buy a DAC (digital audio converter), you can hook up your computer (and all your other digital devices) to your hifi (and all your analog devices). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 hours ago, chef free said: If you buy a DAC (digital audio converter), you can hook up your computer (and all your other digital devices) to your hifi (and all your analog devices). errrrrr did i just not say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porgie66 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 29 minutes ago, hummingbird69 said: If the stream is lossy then it's lossy. 320 is the best you can do with mp3 but they'll probably go with 128. Even if it's 256 K It won't matter what kind of matrix they do its lossy and will sound like shit. If you want to pay for low quality music then be my guest but don't try and shame me because I want it lossless. Dude! I'm not trying to shame you....I just found humor in the fact that your first reaction to this potentially good news is assuming it'll suck . I want lossless too, but I am very excited at the prospect of hearing any live material EQ'd for better clarity than a rough audience tape or dry bones SBD , even if it's a lame MP3. I just thought it was funny that a diehard fan's immediate response is to say... it's going to be ruined anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SymphonyX Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 16 hours ago, porgie66 said: 😏 I love how quickly people start with the negative vibes. Anyway, this sounds like real pie in the sky, but we shall see....🤔 lol, what could go wrong when you have slime lawyers and tons of Red Tape involved? It's doomed to fail and the problem with our current system. Mark my words and post, the system will collapse with all these nonsense Red Tap and we will be entering a whole new system in coming years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonfan159 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 hours ago, hummingbird69 said: If the stream is lossy then it's lossy. 320 is the best you can do with mp3 but they'll probably go with 128. Even if it's 256 K It won't matter what kind of matrix they do its lossy and will sound like shit. If you want to pay for low quality music then be my guest but don't try and shame me because I want it lossless. There is pretty much no detectable difference between flac and 320k. Anyone who says they can hear a difference is a gosh durned liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummingbird69 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 3 hours ago, porgie66 said: Dude! I'm not trying to shame you....I just found humor in the fact that your first reaction to this potentially good news is assuming it'll suck . I want lossless too, but I am very excited at the prospect of hearing any live material EQ'd for better clarity than a rough audience tape or dry bones SBD , even if it's a lame MP3. I just thought it was funny that a diehard fan's immediate response is to say... it's going to be ruined anyway. That's the way of the world. Spend time to pretty something up then broadcast it in a lossy format kinda defeats the purpose; to me anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummingbird69 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, gibsonfan159 said: There is pretty much no detectable difference between flac and 320k. Anyone who says they can hear a difference is a gosh durned liar. Say what you want. A 320 mp3 of official material won't sound too much different but when you mp3 bootlegs the effect thins out the recording makes the cymbals sound swishy and removes the deepest of the bottom end sometimes the only discernable bass too begin with. If you're happy with mp3 more powa to ya. I'll stick with lossless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonfan159 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, hummingbird69 said: Say what you want. A 320 mp3 of official material won't sound too much different but when you mp3 bootlegs the effect thins out the recording makes the cymbals sound swishy and removes the deepest of the bottom end sometimes the only discernable bass too begin with. If you're happy with mp3 more powa to ya. I'll stick with lossless. https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality I was 3/6. I could definitely tell 320 from 120, but uncompressed was almost indiscernible from 320. But I was also using medium level earbuds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 What about a cerebral implant? Why is Jimmy and the boys not offering this through a direct hardlink into our god damned brains? Anything less is unacceptable!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef free Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 5 hours ago, chillumpuffer said: errrrrr did i just not say that? Not as succinctly. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porgie66 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 52 minutes ago, IpMan said: What about a cerebral implant? Why is Jimmy and the boys not offering this through a direct hardlink into our god damned brains? Anything less is unacceptable!!!! 😂 Make mine mint chip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, IpMan said: What about a cerebral implant? Why is Jimmy and the boys not offering this through a direct hardlink into our god damned brains? Anything less is unacceptable!!!! Sorry Ipman, but you’re living in the past....that’s nowhere near ambitious enough. The use of hardware is defunct. Telepathy is the answer.......😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SymphonyX Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 This should have been done 10 years ago. It is absolutely insane to plan now for the next 10 years. I'm treating the news article as fake news and to generate a buzz. Don't underestimate technology, everything rapidly changes ever 6 to 9 months and going to plan next 10 years ? LOL, good luck. Gene Simmons has had nothing positive to say about Streaming. He's said quite a handful about free streaming, but also said the whole format is a discombobulated mess. Gene is the first to pimp out his own mother for a nickle, if anyone should test the waters with a Streaming Service it should be KISS and then we can look at Zeppelin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummingbird69 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Maybe they should follow DGM's (King Crimson) model? Just about every recording they have gotten their hands on along with most of their recordings for sale as download in flac or mp3. I think the streaming thing is a way to keep people coming back to the site for repeat listening. that keeps the band current and also has some other advertising angle to generate cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysticman560 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) Why not just issue these recordings as CD releases and digital downloads? I'd rather have physical copies of these recordings anyway. Edited September 22, 2018 by mysticman560 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Moon Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 1:12 PM, chillumpuffer said: Get an Arcam Digital to Analogue converter. I have one. Attach a USB cable from your laptop to this and cable it to your amp. I stream all my music and I also attach the TV to it and play it through my amp. Fantastic bit of kit https://www.whathifi.com/arcam/rdac/review 23 hours ago, chef free said: If you buy a DAC (digital audio converter), you can hook up your computer (and all your other digital devices) to your hifi (and all your analog devices). Many thanks to Chillumpuffer & Chef Free for bringing some light into the dark, sounds good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autumn Moon Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, mysticman560 said: Why not just issue these recordings as CD releases and digital downloads? I'd rather have physical copies of these recordings anyway. Same here, i.e. the Black Crowes offer SB-recordings on CD or flac/mp3 downloads for reasonable price. Anyway, the NON downloadable idea will fail immediately. I guess bootleg companies will sell the shows on silver about 14 days after the their initial streaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Only Way To Fly Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 2:04 PM, Strider said: I would think Wolfgang's Vault would be a good example/blueprint for what Led Zeppelin want to do. I haven't been to WV in quite some time, but I do remember they had some of the 69 Fillmore shows available for streaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Only Way To Fly Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 12:19 AM, Autumn Moon said: Also, I can´t connect my laptop with my hifi system, which may be a little old but very good, no optical or digital input available. Too easy - find an RCA Cable that goes to 1/8th inch - plug the RCA cables into your tape monitor input & your good to go! I have a mid-80's Harmon Kardon amp and this is how I run Pandora (via my iPad) through my system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Autumn Moon said: Same here, i.e. the Black Crowes offer SB-recordings on CD or flac/mp3 downloads for reasonable price. Anyway, the NON downloadable idea will fail immediately. I guess bootleg companies will sell the shows on silver about 14 days after the their initial streaming. So do Pearl Jam. As for the bootleg companies, if they can get the technology to download from a stream, surely the average Joe can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom kid Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 7:49 AM, Autumn Moon said: I guess this will make a lot of fans happy. On the other hand, does this mean there will be no physical releases (CD & Vinyl)??? For me this would be a HUGE letdown. I simply can`t enjoy music via my laptop and those shitty sounding speakers. Also, I can´t connect my laptop with my hifi system, which may be a little old but very good, no optical or digital input available. God, I hope they will release CDs & vinyl sets. If not, there is hope that the live-stream will be bootlegged. NON DOWNLOADABLE- I don´t think they get away with that nowadays...... Just get a 2x rca - 3.5mm cable and connect it that way. It's how I connect my 30+ year old amp to my PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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