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Led Zeppelin vs Deep Purple

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There were 35 members of DP and yeah had a couple songs and everyone's a great musician but it isn't in the same universe and JP JPJ JHB RP . . No one else can take the place of these four guys. . Ive got my LZ fanboy cloak on LOL

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On ‎11‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 7:14 AM, John M said:

As fantastic as Made in Japan is, I prefer the playing and sound on the three live bonus tracks on the reissue of the Concerto for Group and Orchestra, from Sept 1969.  The bonus disc has only  Hush, Wring that Neck, and Child in Time, but they are all superb.  I wish there was a full length Purple only concert from that performance but of course it was just an opening before they played the Concerto with the orchestra.  If you don't have this double CD seek it out.  The whole thing is amazing.  This was about 9 months before In Rock was released with Child in Time.

 

 

Nice version, but nowhere near as good as this one:

 

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On ‎11‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 3:16 PM, gibsonfan159 said:

I've been through Rainbow's studio albums, but I'll def check out the live stuff.

Check out this one, smoking hot:

 

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9 hours ago, JohnOsbourne said:

Nice version, but nowhere near as good as this one:

Fantastic !!  I like how they are developing parts of "Lazy" here.  I clearly need to get more live Purple.  Thanks. 

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I'm a big fan of both Led Zep and Mk2 of Deep Purple and I have seen them live many many times. In Scandinavia and in the UK. I don't compare which is the best band? I love them both. 🤩

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I went to see DP on their Machine Head tour. I also went to see LZ before and after the DP tour. LZ wins the live presentation. DP are just BORING to watch. LZ are exciting to watch and to listen to.

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16 hours ago, Sathington Willoughby said:

:rolleyes:

The amount of songs, where the lift is very direct and obvious is very small, far, far less then some youtube videos are trying to suggest and I think only such song count and beyond Zep II, there are almost no such songs! 

Things like Communication breakdown and How many more times don' t come in question. Riffs in CB and HMMT are Jimmy's and melodies are original, so are the lyrics, especially in CB. There are many similar examples. So I think it is a small amount because only things like Dazed and confused and Whole lotta love count, despite the original things added. You can't count things like intro to Rock and roll or The Lemon song or Bring it on home even, they could have left the intro/outro out. But there are certainly lots of little bits and pieces and lyrics verses in many songs, that are integrated into the whole original picture.

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'Tommy Bolin can't play for shit!' Ah, come on, it was only a joke when Bonzo said it the first time... 

 

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17 hours ago, Dario said:

Some facts for the Wikipedia people.

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I question some of those figures in that article...it sounds like marketing promo hype. 25 million sold of one record in one year? I don't buy that for a second. I've looked at their RIAA numbers and other sales stats. It doesn't add up.

I was at Cal Jam. Deep Purple were okay but they didn't blow anyone away. And they were pretty much forgotten once Emerson, Lake & Palmer took the stage.

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58 minutes ago, Strider said:

I question some of those figures in that article...it sounds like marketing promo hype. 25 million sold of one record in one year? I don't buy that for a second. I've looked at their RIAA numbers and other sales stats. It doesn't add up.

I was at Cal Jam. Deep Purple were okay but they didn't blow anyone away. And they were pretty much forgotten once Emerson, Lake & Palmer took the stage.

Are you speaking for all of the 300,000 some in attendance that day? Out of curiosity, how old were you when you attended that show?

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Wikipedia is a pure bs.

I’ve posted newspapers article from 1974 and 1975.

I can trust them more than wiki.

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18 hours ago, Badgeholder Still said:

Are you speaking for all of the 300,000 some in attendance that day? Out of curiosity, how old were you when you attended that show?

Agree....the Cal Jam performance of "Burn" is one of the greatest rock moments of all time (IMHO).  And I'd take Deep Purple Mark III over any prog band any day!

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I was at Cal Jam. I was sixteen. I thought both Sabbath and Purple were great. That MK III lineup is my favorite. I left during ELP. 

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2 hours ago, badgeholder said:

I was at Cal Jam. I was sixteen. I thought both Sabbath and Purple were great. That MK III lineup is my favorite. I left during ELP. 

I am SOOOOO jealous!

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3 hours ago, badgeholder said:

I was at Cal Jam. I was sixteen. I thought both Sabbath and Purple were great. That MK III lineup is my favorite. I left during ELP. 

What a lucky man you were.

7 hours ago, Stryder1978 said:

Agree....the Cal Jam performance of "Burn" is one of the greatest rock moments of all time (IMHO).  And I'd take Deep Purple Mark III over any prog band any day!

Any fan of the MK III lineup should get a copy of "Graz !975". It was one of their last concerts, April 1975, just before Mr. Blackmore left. You won´t find better versions of Burn & Stormbringer.

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43 minutes ago, Autumn Moon said:

What a lucky man  you were.

 

I see what you did there.:yesnod:

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6 hours ago, Autumn Moon said:

What a lucky man you were.

Any fan of the MK III lineup should get a copy of "Graz !975". It was one of their last concerts, April 1975, just before Mr. Blackmore left. You won´t find better versions of Burn & Stormbringer. 

Yeah, all of those live ones, Paris and London also, great stuff 

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On 7/3/2019 at 6:55 AM, Stryder1978 said:

Agree....the Cal Jam performance of "Burn" is one of the greatest rock moments of all time (IMHO).  And I'd take Deep Purple Mark III over any prog band any day!

Deep Purple is a fantastic band, so was Richie Blackmore 🌈 risings Album. 

You caught my attention when you said best progrock band. Deep purple I don’t see them as pro rock as such as I see Yes, or ElP. John lord is an amazing keyboard player but the guys from Peter Gabriel Genesis blow Deep purple out of the water when it comes to art rock prog rock... Supers Ready, Lamb lies Down on Broadway, Selling England by the pound, Fox Trot. 

Peter Gabriel 

Phil Collins drummer

Mike Rutherford

Steve Hackett

Tony Banks 

the forgotten band that shaped music beyond anything I’ve heard.

13 floor elevators RIP.

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On 7/2/2019 at 12:24 PM, Strider said:

I question some of those figures in that article...it sounds like marketing promo hype. 25 million sold of one record in one year? I don't buy that for a second. I've looked at their RIAA numbers and other sales stats. It doesn't add up.

I was at Cal Jam. Deep Purple were okay but they didn't blow anyone away. And they were pretty much forgotten once Emerson, Lake & Palmer took the stage.

Does that bother you?

Can you prove they didn’t sold 25 million of just one album ,is the wiki your only source?

cal jam is just your personal opinion,they were stars of the night.

Here’s another prove for you.

If Machine head sold over 15 millions,then Made in Japan outsold it.

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Dario said:

Does that bother you?

Can you prove they didn’t sold 25 million of just one album ,is the wiki your only source?

cal jam is just your personal opinion,they were stars of the night.

Here’s another prove for you.

If Machine head sold over 15 millions,then Made in Japan outsold it.

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Awww...I totally forgot about this kerfuffle. Thank you for replying as I would not have known where to look.

This is just Deep Purple fanboys going against Led Zeppelin fanboys. You are not going to convince a Deep Purple head that Led Zeppelin was better than Deep Purple any more than you will convince a Zephead that Purple was better.

But your articles are still full of bogus numbers and record company hype, Dario. I don't use Wiki as a source for anything. I use RIAA stats, Billboard, Cash Box and British charts, and Deep Purple websites.

Of course my thoughts on Cal Jam are my own personal opinion. I was just having a wind up. Deep Purple had their moments (Glenn Hughes was a revelation) that day...as did Black Sabbath and ELP and Rare Earth. Frankly, I was glad when it ended. It was a long day and I was tired and exhausted and uncomfortable for most of it...and the sound was hit and miss. It confirmed my dislike for giant, outdoor festival type shows...especially ones at Ontario Motor Speedway.  I chose not to go to Cal Jam II for that very reason.

Anyway, I have already spent more time on Deep Purple than I care to spend. I could show you reams and reams of facts that show DP's record sales are inflated in those articles but who cares...it's still not going to change your mind. So why bother?

If some people like DP more than LZ, more power to them. I leave this thread for good now. \m/

 

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