bcarter690 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I know this is mostly subjective, but this study from 2008 confirms what we already know- http://bit.ly/ledzepmusicstudy ( Click on the image and use the little magnifying glass icon on the upper right to enlarge) http://bit.ly/ledzepmusicstudy2 EFDT Where's that confounded fridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babysquid Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Scientifically proven? Really? It’s purely subjective. Of course we (should) all know that. Stuff like this is like saying Beetroot is the best flavor and if you disagree there’s something wrong with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm2551 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Any band that can record and broadcast live, then shelve and only release more than 20 years later - a song the calibre of Travelling Riverside Blues for fucks sake, has to be up there. Not exact science, but I'll stick by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcarter690 Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 hours ago, babysquid said: Scientifically proven? Really? It’s purely subjective. Of course we (should) all know that. Stuff like this is like saying Beetroot is the best flavor and if you disagree there’s something wrong with you. "Scientifically proven" is meant tongue in cheek. And of course, it's subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, rm2551 said: Any band that can record and broadcast live, then shelve and only release more than 20 years later - a song the calibre of Travelling Riverside Blues for fucks sake, has to be up there. Not exact science, but I'll stick by it. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 59 minutes ago, rm2551 said: Any band that can record and broadcast live, then shelve and only release more than 20 years later - a song the calibre of Travelling Riverside Blues for fucks sake, has to be up there. Not exact science, but I'll stick by it. It's not that they shelved it, The BBC forgot about it, as far as I remember it turned up again in the late eighties/early nineties on which BBC Radio 1 show I can't remember, after which JP reclaimed it. Pity it's only mono. Also it wasn't broadcast live, it has overdubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 5 hours ago, babysquid said: Scientifically proven? Really? It’s purely subjective. Of course we (should) all know that. Stuff like this is like saying Beetroot is the best flavor and if you disagree there’s something wrong with you. Beetroot is mingin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babysquid Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 17 hours ago, Mook said: Beetroot is mingin'. Then there must be something wrong with you (and me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LurksReturnington Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Sabbath grows better blossoms. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherrySunburstWorshiper Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 On 1/31/2019 at 9:51 PM, bcarter690 said: I know this is mostly subjective, but this study from 2008 confirms what we already know- http://bit.ly/ledzepmusicstudy ( Click on the image and use the little magnifying glass icon on the upper right to enlarge) http://bit.ly/ledzepmusicstudy2 EFDT Where's that confounded fridge? That's some good science right there! but I came up with the same thing for ranking guitarists. You have to make the same categories: Score 1-5 points listing your top 5 players Technical ability Composition Consistency Improv Score 1-3 points like, a point for 5 and 2 points for 4 and 3 and 3 points for the top person on each list. Showmanship Poll enough people and I believe the results would be very interesting. You'll see players like Prince scoring pretty high. On 2/1/2019 at 5:27 AM, JTM said: It's not that they shelved it, The BBC forgot about it, as far as I remember it turned up again in the late eighties/early nineties on which BBC Radio 1 show I can't remember, after which JP reclaimed it. Pity it's only mono. Also it wasn't broadcast live, it has overdubs. Yes it was. The overdub was done at the point of transmition. I believe it's some interview. Possibly an interview in a Boxed Set or one of the guitar mags I used to read. Jimmy talked about how the studio liked having them because they knew what equipment to bring and what worked best with their set up to the point he could overdub when it went out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, CherrySunburstWorshiper said: That's some good science right there! but I came up with the same thing for ranking guitarists. You have to make the same categories: Score 1-5 points listing your top 5 players Technical ability Composition Consistency Improv Score 1-3 points like, a point for 5 and 2 points for 4 and 3 and 3 points for the top person on each list. Showmanship Poll enough people and I believe the results would be very interesting. You'll see players like Prince scoring pretty high. Yes it was. The overdub was done at the point of transmition. I believe it's some interview. Possibly an interview in a Boxed Set or one of the guitar mags I used to read. Jimmy talked about how the studio liked having them because they knew what equipment to bring and what worked best with their set up to the point he could overdub when it went out. What, you are telling me that JP went to The BBC on the day TRB was first broadcast to add a live overdub. Never heard that one before. SAJ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherrySunburstWorshiper Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 hours ago, JTM said: What, you are telling me that JP went to The BBC on the day TRB was first broadcast to add a live overdub. Never heard that one before. SAJ ? No, it wasn't. I was mistaken, though I thought your comment was that it did not air on the first airing because IT was live. But none of them were live. The feat was being able to overdub at all within the time alloted by the BBC. Jimmy credits this to an engineer who was an ace at his craft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm2551 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I'm sure I have read somewhere Jimmy page says it was pretty much made up on the spot for the gig. Now I have my new book "All the Songs" - I looked it up.... ....they had not initially been planning to record this piece: "What happened was we'd played two or three Zep things, and the producers wanted one more track", the guitarist explained. "So we recorded that cover, in one go, one single take. Just like that. One take. And we forgot all about that song until the bootleggers came out with it..... So they had probably played it before. But the "on the spot" is more that it was just - boom. One take and DONE. The reference the book gives for the above is Maneuvre, Phillippe, Interview from 1990, Rock and folk, November, 1998. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonfan159 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 6 hours ago, rm2551 said: So they had probably played it before. But the "on the spot" is more that it was just - boom. One take and DONE. Absolutely. It's not a complicated track instrumentally and is loose enough to allow some improv. I'm more impressed with Plant's lyrical delivery than anything. Just absolutely perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm2551 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 3 hours ago, gibsonfan159 said: Absolutely. It's not a complicated track instrumentally and is loose enough to allow some improv. I'm more impressed with Plant's lyrical delivery than anything. Just absolutely perfect. yeah, 100%. And I imagine some of the lyrics delivered were improv on the spot. All that rich tapestry of Blues classics lyrics that Percy had to draw on from his love of that genre. Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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