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Scientifically proven? Really? It’s purely subjective. Of course we (should) all know that. Stuff like this is like saying Beetroot is the best flavor and if you disagree there’s something wrong with you.

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Any band that can record and broadcast live, then shelve and only release more than 20 years later - a song the calibre of Travelling Riverside Blues for fucks sake, has to be up there. Not exact science, but I'll stick by it.

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3 hours ago, babysquid said:

Scientifically proven? Really? It’s purely subjective. Of course we (should) all know that. Stuff like this is like saying Beetroot is the best flavor and if you disagree there’s something wrong with you.

"Scientifically proven" is meant tongue in cheek. And of course, it's subjective.

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25 minutes ago, rm2551 said:

Any band that can record and broadcast live, then shelve and only release more than 20 years later - a song the calibre of Travelling Riverside Blues for fucks sake, has to be up there. Not exact science, but I'll stick by it.

Good point.

 

 

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59 minutes ago, rm2551 said:

Any band that can record and broadcast live, then shelve and only release more than 20 years later - a song the calibre of Travelling Riverside Blues for fucks sake, has to be up there. Not exact science, but I'll stick by it.

It's not that they shelved it, The BBC forgot about it, as far as I remember it turned up again  in the late eighties/early nineties on which BBC Radio 1 show I can't remember, after which JP reclaimed it. Pity it's only mono. Also it wasn't broadcast live, it has overdubs.

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5 hours ago, babysquid said:

Scientifically proven? Really? It’s purely subjective. Of course we (should) all know that. Stuff like this is like saying Beetroot is the best flavor and if you disagree there’s something wrong with you.

Beetroot is mingin'.

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17 hours ago, Mook said:

Beetroot is mingin'.

Then there must be something wrong with you (and me)

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On 1/31/2019 at 9:51 PM, bcarter690 said:
know this is mostly subjective, but this study from 2008 confirms what we already know-
 
 
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Where's that confounded fridge?

That's some good science right there!

but I came up with the same thing for ranking guitarists. You have to make the same categories:

Score 1-5 points listing your top 5 players

Technical ability 

Composition

Consistency

Improv

Score 1-3 points like, a point for 5 and 2 points for 4 and 3 and 3 points for the top person on each list.

Showmanship

Poll enough people and I believe the results would be very interesting. You'll see players like Prince scoring pretty high.

On 2/1/2019 at 5:27 AM, JTM said:

It's not that they shelved it, The BBC forgot about it, as far as I remember it turned up again  in the late eighties/early nineties on which BBC Radio 1 show I can't remember, after which JP reclaimed it. Pity it's only mono. Also it wasn't broadcast live, it has overdubs.

Yes it was. The overdub was done at the point of transmition. I believe it's some interview. Possibly an interview in a Boxed Set or one of the guitar mags I used to read. Jimmy talked about how the studio liked having them because they knew what equipment to bring and what worked best with their set up to the point he could overdub when it went out.

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2 hours ago, CherrySunburstWorshiper said:

That's some good science right there!

but I came up with the same thing for ranking guitarists. You have to make the same categories:

Score 1-5 points listing your top 5 players

Technical ability 

Composition

Consistency

Improv

Score 1-3 points like, a point for 5 and 2 points for 4 and 3 and 3 points for the top person on each list.

Showmanship

Poll enough people and I believe the results would be very interesting. You'll see players like Prince scoring pretty high.

Yes it was. The overdub was done at the point of transmition. I believe it's some interview. Possibly an interview in a Boxed Set or one of the guitar mags I used to read. Jimmy talked about how the studio liked having them because they knew what equipment to bring and what worked best with their set up to the point he could overdub when it went out.

What, you are telling me that JP went to The BBC on the day TRB was first broadcast to add a live overdub. Never heard that one before. SAJ ?

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4 hours ago, JTM said:

What, you are telling me that JP went to The BBC on the day TRB was first broadcast to add a live overdub. Never heard that one before. SAJ ?

No, it wasn't. I was mistaken, though I thought your comment was that it did not air on the first airing because IT was live. But none of them were live. The feat was being able to overdub at all within the time alloted by the BBC. Jimmy credits this to an engineer who was an ace at his craft.

 

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I'm sure I have read somewhere Jimmy page says it was pretty much made up on the spot for the gig.

Now I have my new book "All the Songs" - I looked it up....

....they had not initially been planning to record this piece: "What happened was we'd played two or three Zep things, and the producers wanted one more track", the guitarist explained. "So we recorded that cover, in one go, one single take. Just like that. One take. And we forgot all about that song until the bootleggers came out with it.....

So they had probably played it before. But the "on the spot" is more that it was just - boom. One take and DONE.

The reference the book gives for the above is Maneuvre, Phillippe, Interview from 1990, Rock and folk, November, 1998.

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6 hours ago, rm2551 said:

So they had probably played it before. But the "on the spot" is more that it was just - boom. One take and DONE.

Absolutely. It's not a complicated track instrumentally and is loose enough to allow some improv. I'm more impressed with Plant's lyrical delivery than anything. Just absolutely perfect.

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3 hours ago, gibsonfan159 said:

Absolutely. It's not a complicated track instrumentally and is loose enough to allow some improv. I'm more impressed with Plant's lyrical delivery than anything. Just absolutely perfect.

yeah, 100%. And I imagine some of the lyrics delivered were improv on the spot. All that rich tapestry of Blues classics lyrics that Percy had to draw on from his love of that genre. Unreal.

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