Fat Albert 72 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Having never played the CD’s for “The Song Remains The Same” 2018 remaster I was surprised to discover a couple of differences with the familiar vinyl when I gave them a spin tonight. The CD version of the title track has an intro by Plant and restores Page’s opening note before crashing into the track. The CD version of Stairway To Heaven reinstates Plant’s “I think this is a...” intro as used on the 2007 LP & CD. Anyone have any thoughts on why the LP’s and CD’s differ so? I have the deluxe box with the LP’s, CD’s and DVD’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porgie66 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) http://www.thegardentapes.co.uk/tgt.html In case you've never read this. Edited January 24, 2020 by porgie66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 If you think they butchered those songs, wait till you compare no quarter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsj Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Xolo1974 said: If you think they butchered those songs, wait till you compare no quarter agreed. horrendous editing, as it is on D&C as well. how anyone in the band agreed to sign it off is beyond me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Albert 72 Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 Thanks, yes I know the Garden Tapes and the whole Frankenstein edit history and would love a remaster of the original album. My point was that I was surprised at the different edits of these two tracks within the same 2018 release, ie the LP and CD edits differ within the same release. I’ll give the DVD audio a spin later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Albert 72 Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 6 hours ago, porgie66 said: http://www.thegardentapes.co.uk/tgt.html In case you've never read this. Indeed I’ve been long aware of the Garden Tapes but thanks anyway. They don’t cover the differences I’m referring to. The Garden Tapes is essentially audio v film audio and 1976 v 2007/18. Where as I’m referencing differences between 2018 LP and CD audio. The 2007 LP and CD edits were the same but not so in 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reids Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) Maybe they just edited them differently, so we’d buy all the versions / w/ format variations and talk about them here on the forum for promotion 😄 R😎 Edited January 24, 2020 by reids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Albert 72 Posted January 24, 2020 Author Share Posted January 24, 2020 43 minutes ago, reids said: Maybe they just edited them differently, so we’d buy all the versions / w/ format variations and talk about them here on the forum for promotion 😄 R😎 Haha you're probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reids Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Fat Albert 72 said: Haha you're probably right. Disney double dip (in this case, its the Led Zep quadruple dip). 😄 R😎🎸👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticks of Fire Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 So much for only wanting perfection... All three nights should be redone individually and released as a box set. The Zeppelin mentality is mental... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummingbird69 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 44 minutes ago, Sticks of Fire said: So much for only wanting perfection... All three nights should be redone individually and released as a box set. The Zeppelin mentality is mental... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Albert 72 Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 4:52 AM, Xolo1974 said: If you think they butchered those songs, wait till you compare no quarter “Butchered” is somewhat OTT, the former sounds erroneous though but the latter is a remix which makes no sense. FYI “No Quarter” is identical as are all other tracks apart from the fades but then that’s only to be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woz70 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fat Albert 72 said: “Butchered” is somewhat OTT, the former sounds erroneous though but the latter is a remix which makes no sense. FYI “No Quarter” is identical as are all other tracks apart from the fades but then that’s only to be expected. Xolo1974 is talking about the machete job done between the 1976 "No Quarter" (sublime) and the 2007 re-release version (a crime against humanity). Obviously your point is the differences 2007/2018. The bitter taste left by the 2007 version runs deep. Edited January 25, 2020 by woz70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Albert 72 Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) On 1/25/2020 at 12:06 PM, woz70 said: Xolo1974 is talking about the machete job done between the 1976 "No Quarter" (sublime) and the 2007 re-release version (a crime against humanity).Obviously your point is the differences 2007/2018. The bitter taste left by the 2007 version runs deep. No! My thread is purely about the 2018 remaster and the differences therein between the CD and Vinyl versions. Absolutely nothing to do with 2007, 1976 or which edit is best. Too much speed reading me thinks. Edited January 26, 2020 by Fat Albert 72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmtomh Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/26/2020 at 3:23 PM, Fat Albert 72 said: No! My thread is purely about the 2018 remaster and the differences therein between the CD and Vinyl versions. Absolutely nothing to do with 2007, 1976 or which edit is best. Too much speed reading me thinks. I'm sorry folks are for some reason unable to stay on-topic. I get what you're talking about. I have no definitive answer, but I have noticed that there are small differences between the CD/digital and vinyl versions on most of the live Zep reissues from 2014 through 2018. Some of these small differences come from vinyl-side timing limitations - for example the track order of the 1969 Paris show (Zep I 2014 reissue companion material) and How the West Was Won are both different on the vinyl than on the CD and other digital versions. The specific differences you've noticed on The Song Remains the Same might not be explainable in that way, but I've often wondered if some of these unnecessary small variations were some kind of artistic choice Page made (or John Davis made and Page signed off on or didn't notice), having to do with the different flow and feel of flipping vinyl sides vs playing an entire CD, Blu-Ray audio disc, or set of digital files through from beginning to end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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