Bonzo_fan Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Does anybody know if a matrix has been made of the 5/31/73 Los Angeles show? I have the audience recording, which sounds really good, but I know there's also a partial soundboard (which I've listened to bits and pieces of here and there). It seems like too good of an audience recording to not make a matrix with, but I can't seem to find if one has been made or not... If anyone knows of one and can point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluribus Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Slumpy made one years ago, and it had the usual problems...drift between the sources, comb filtering, etc. I would check out multi-cam projects merge of the audience sources and the soundboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 4 hours ago, pluribus said: Slumpy made one years ago, and it had the usual problems...drift between the sources, comb filtering, etc. I would check out multi-cam projects merge of the audience sources and the soundboard. Slumpy😆 I heard that thing, as I remember by the end of it was completely out of sync and sounded like a fuckin' mess...his Seattle '77 "matrix" isn't much better. Christ, those things are old now, fifteen years at least- better sources and technology have become available since to actually make better matrices of some of these shows possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Austin Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 This show really does not have a definitive version out there (that I've heard at least). Which is a shame because it's one of the best of the tour. I think Nite Owl would be the man for the job. His matrixes are the best I've ever heard... everything he has touched so far turned to gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo_fan Posted May 31, 2020 Author Share Posted May 31, 2020 On 5/30/2020 at 1:30 AM, pluribus said: Slumpy made one years ago, and it had the usual problems...drift between the sources, comb filtering, etc. I would check out multi-cam projects merge of the audience sources and the soundboard. 19 hours ago, Nutrocker said: Slumpy😆 I heard that thing, as I remember by the end of it was completely out of sync and sounded like a fuckin' mess...his Seattle '77 "matrix" isn't much better. Christ, those things are old now, fifteen years at least- better sources and technology have become available since to actually make better matrices of some of these shows possible. Thanks guys! 8 hours ago, William Austin said: This show really does not have a definitive version out there (that I've heard at least). Which is a shame because it's one of the best of the tour. I think Nite Owl would be the man for the job. His matrixes are the best I've ever heard... everything he has touched so far turned to gold. That's sort of what I'd gathered. I agree, it's a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Les Paul Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 This is what noted Led Zeppelin bootleg collector, Paul Sheppard, posted on the Led Zeppelin Celebration Days Facebook page this morning. 31st May, 1973. L.A. Forum, Los Angeles, CA. U.S.A. In effect, Zeppelin’s second home and where they performed some of their best concerts. This one is up there with the best if not quite the forever classic that some of them were. There are three separate audience sources, a selection of audience source mixes using two or more sources plus a soundboard available on Cd. For me, the best and most complete ones are: Bonzo’s Birthday Party (Graf Zeppelin) 3 Cd Bonzo’s Birthday Party (Sanctuary) 3 Cd. Both of these are audience mixes and both include the encore ‘Communication Breakdown’. Also good is Bonzo’s Birthday Party (Neverland) 5 Cd which has a 3 Cd audience mainly based on source three and the 2 Cd well circulated soundboard. Bonzo’s Birthday Party (Tarantura) 3 Cd is an older release based on source one and is missing the encore but has to get a mention here for its brilliant cover (arguably the best ever Cd cover). If you just want the soundboard then, apart from the Neverland release, Watchtower and Empress Valley are decent enough. Empress Valley has released some lavish packages along the way but their box set(s) of this show are inferior to the ones mentioned above, down to their splicing and using different shows to fill gaps (common practice with EV sadly). They are also expensive. Party on in memory of Bonzo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Only Way To Fly Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 23 minutes ago, Page Les Paul said: Party on in memory of Bonzo! Shame both George Harrison and Bonzo (along with many others) are gone now. Celebrate the life of both by throwing someone in the pool today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porgie66 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Graf Zeppelin's is my fav for the audience merge. The sources are clear, the edits well done and Moby Dick is also complete which bizarrely wasn't the case for pretty much all prior releases. For me a matrix works best if you have most of the show in both SBD and Aud. This show is a typical '73 incomplete SBD. Still I'm surprised no one did a decent matrix recently. Seems like the era of matrixing was 10-15 years ago. Am I wrong ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paloff Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Nite Owl had released some Led Zeppelin : Fillmore April 27, 1969; Texas Pop August 31(great one), 1969, Blueberry Hill and the recent Vienna 1973 (great one too) . And maybe some more ... He or she or they has also made a great version of The Rolling Stones Liver than you'll ever be, really nice upgrade and two Neil Young from 1973 and 1984. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paloff Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 The No label, or Lighthouse has some silver cd using the Night Owl matrix, Texas pop is nicely done with pictures from the actual show, as the last Vienna 1973, from the same label. EV has gathered the 69 shows in a "cheap" package, it is not cheap when you consider the prices. There are probably others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecongo Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Sadly I do not know of a place to download. sad story, my drive that contained files got corrupted and I lost my own Masters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Les Paul Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 49 minutes ago, bluecongo said: Sadly I do not know of a place to download. sad story, my drive that contained files got corrupted and I lost my own Masters Are you talking about the 05/25/1975 show "King Jimmy and The West Bromowich Blues Band"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecongo Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Yep that’s the one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Les Paul Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, bluecongo said: Yep that’s the one ! I’ll send you a PM later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter's walker Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 I'm listening to the "Multicam Projects'' version of this show Moonchild Records released in 2019-- $18 US Dollars for a 3 disc set. Sounds is excellent, and the edits aren't as glaring as the Empress Valley version I bought 10-15 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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