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RainbowElf Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Cool Art there Kipper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, RainbowElf said: Cool Art there Kipper. Lots of cool Zep art on the innerwebs, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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redrum Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 3 hours ago, kipper said: Awesome. I say, John Henry. Have ye seen the white whale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 A question about licensing and publishing fees for song played at venues or events without the artist's approval was raised in the RIP thread, So I thought to maybe discuss it here. This is NOT to make a political debate, it is about music/publishing and how much control an artist retains over their music after the sell the publishing rights. At a recent event(s) some music was played which the artists who created the songs objected to. Strider was kind enough to post this link about the subject, but I have other questions: https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/can_recording_artists_stop_trump_from_playing_their_music_at_rallies_some_l So my take from reading the above article is that there isn't any succinct legal cases which seem to have nailed this down as a certain yes, the artist can stop it, or no they can't--- other than to suggest that if the song content itself is of a nature in which an "artist could assert a right of publicity in their image, confusion or dilution of their name under the Lanham Act, and false endorsement". Therefore they have to prove they are being damaged--- other than possibly not receiving monetization through their publisher. Seems to me that just because they don't like it, may not be enough. And furthermore, even as they may protest, in most cases the exposure of the song is still in their best interests--- or at least maybe their publisher. One way would be the monitization of their music when it is appears in so many youtube news type clips where the song can be heard in the background. Therefore any of the monitzation going to that youtube account for traffic could be nabbed by the publisher, or if it can't be, they could have the audio for the clip muted. I see plenty of youtube clips which had Led Zeppelin songs in them---including covers, muted because somebody didn't pay the publishing fees. Led Zeppelin seems to have kept more control of their music rights than other bands. And some like the Who I feel are happy to have their stuff played everywhere al the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Bones Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, kipper said: A question about licensing and publishing fees for song played at venues or events without the artist's approval was raised in the RIP thread, So I thought to maybe discuss it here. This is NOT to make a political debate, it is about music/publishing and how much control an artist retains over their music after the sell the publishing rights. At a recent event(s) some music was played which the artists who created the songs objected to. Strider was kind enough to post this link about the subject, but I have other questions: https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/can_recording_artists_stop_trump_from_playing_their_music_at_rallies_some_l So my take from reading the above article is that there isn't any succinct legal cases which seem to have nailed this down as a certain yes, the artist can stop it, or no they can't--- other than to suggest that if the song content itself is of a nature in which an "artist could assert a right of publicity in their image, confusion or dilution of their name under the Lanham Act, and false endorsement". Therefore they have to prove they are being damaged--- other than possibly not receiving monetization through their publisher. Seems to me that just because they don't like it, may not be enough. And furthermore, even as they may protest, in most cases the exposure of the song is still in their best interests--- or at least maybe their publisher. One way would be the monitization of their music when it is appears in so many youtube news type clips where the song can be heard in the background. Therefore any of the monitzation going to that youtube account for traffic could be nabbed by the publisher, or if it can't be, they could have the audio for the clip muted. I see plenty of youtube clips which had Led Zeppelin songs in them---including covers, muted because somebody didn't pay the publishing fees. Led Zeppelin seems to have kept more control of their music rights than other bands. And some like the Who I feel are happy to have their stuff played everywhere al the time. It also comes down to basic respect which is sorely in desperate need in this day and age. Someone says "please stop playing my songs, " you stop playing their songs, plain and simple. Only a trashy person would continue to play a song after the artist requests them to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Mr.Bones said: It also comes down to basic respect which is sorely in desperate need in this day and age. Someone says "please stop playing my songs, " you stop playing their songs, plain and simple. Only a trashy person would continue to play a song after the artist requests them to stop. While I may tend to agree with this, if the only teeth to the request is just asking, that may not be enough in our lawyer driven society. Plus there is something about what comes with being a public figure too, the good and the bad. Otherwise artists should not sell their publishing rights and keep 100% control. But most won't do that we know. Edited September 21, 2020 by kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apantherfrommd Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 The first war since the virus from China: Azerbaijan vs Armenia. Terrible war. Been going on since the end of Zeptember. One side - Azerbaijan wants to keep their land and run the Armenians to their homeland. Armenia is attacking to keep their presence within Azerbaijan. But they have a base there in Azerbaijan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 On 9/20/2020 at 5:52 PM, kipper said: While I may tend to agree with this, if the only teeth to the request is just asking, that may not be enough in our lawyer driven society. Plus there is something about what comes with being a public figure too, the good and the bad. Otherwise artists should not sell their publishing rights and keep 100% control. But most won't do that we know. Jack Black in 'School Of Rock'------ I pledge allegiance, To the band, Of Mr. Shneebly, And will not fight him, For creative control, And will differ to him on all issues related to the musical direction of the band. Now, let's get rockin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Bones Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 18 hours ago, apantherfrommd said: The first war since the virus from China: Azerbaijan vs Armenia. Terrible war. Been going on since the end of Zeptember. One side - Azerbaijan wants to keep their land and run the Armenians to their homeland. Armenia is attacking to keep their presence within Azerbaijan. But they have a base there in Azerbaijan. You should read the history of the conflict as it is a long and bloody one. The Azerbaijani worked in conjunction with the Turks during the Armenian Genocide which is one of the reasons the Armenians hate them. That land is not Azerbaijan, it is part of Armenia but was taken from the Armenians during the genocide. People can really suck, all this hate. It really is a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipper Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Vive La France! We Stand With France! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 hours ago, kipper said: Vive La France! We Stand With France! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowElf Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) On 10/30/2020 at 4:02 AM, redrum said: 👍 Yes I stand with France, Edited November 11, 2020 by RainbowElf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Never forget. My brother served with these guys in Vietnam. So did James Jones on Guadalcanal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowElf Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 On 10/14/2020 at 8:03 PM, Mr.Bones said: You should read the history of the conflict as it is a long and bloody one. The Azerbaijani worked in conjunction with the Turks during the Armenian Genocide which is one of the reasons the Armenians hate them. That land is not Azerbaijan, it is part of Armenia but was taken from the Armenians during the genocide. People can really suck, all this hate. It really is a shame. Yeah hate does suck doesn’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Last night on 'bonzoleum' live stream, he gave away 3 prizes. You just had to answer the correct word or song. There were 125 people watching and I never saw such fast typing in my life. Everyone's keyboards were smokin'. The last prize was a brand new Paiste 18 inch crash/ride and the song he was thinking of was Poor Tom. I guessed Moby Dick. He also gave away a t-shirt and mug, plus a vintage drum key. Next week he's going to give away his used bowler hat. That was a hell of a lot of fun. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowElf Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 12:32 AM, kipper said: Lots of cool Zep art on the innerwebs, thanks! Wondering where Kipper has been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apantherfrommd Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) On 10/14/2020 at 8:03 PM, Mr.Bones said: You should read the history of the conflict as it is a long and bloody one. The Azerbaijani worked in conjunction with the Turks during the Armenian Genocide which is one of the reasons the Armenians hate them. That land is not Azerbaijan, it is part of Armenia but was taken from the Armenians during the genocide. People can really suck, all this hate. It really is a shame. Turks still support Azerbaijan. What has changed is that Armenia is Russia's baby, now. Azeris don't hate Armenians. They hate the troops in the disputed lands - Karabakh. War is over, because the Russians are now in Karabakh. What's strange to me is that 3 countries were co-chairs on the Minsk agreement. USA, France, and Russia. How can Russia be neutral, on the chair, yet interfering? It doesn't make sense to me. Edited November 18, 2020 by apantherfrommd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RainbowElf Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Anyone heard from Kipper? The guy just dropped out of sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 3 hours ago, RainbowElf said: Anyone heard from Kipper? The guy just dropped out of sight. Might be on vacation or lurking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RainbowElf Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 8 hours ago, redrum said: Might be on vacation or lurking. I hope he is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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