JMH Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) I have been thinking about this since I came back to Zep boots late last year. The idea is to compile 1977-1979 concert set list given the songs and capabilities Zep had gathered by that time. Let us pretend the band is in La Forum 77/ Copenhagen 79 shape. The point is to keep the show under 3,5 hours with encores and Plantations and give sort of top limit for time for each song, and preferred way of deliverance if there are differences over the years (for example, Tangerine). Of course, arguments to back up your choices are the whole point of the exercise. I will give it a go but only saying this is how it looks today. Another day, another ideas. 1. The Song Remains The Same 5 MIN 2. Sick Aagain (Rover Intro) 6 MIN 3. Celebration Day 5 MIN 4. Nobody's Fault But Mine 8 MIN 5. In My Time Of Dying/Over The Hills And Far Away 12 MIN 6. Since I've Been Loving You 10 MIN 7. No Quarter 25 MIN 8. Tangerine 5 MIN 9. Ten Years Gone 10 MIN 10. Kashmir 11 MIN 11. Dazed And Confused 35 MIN 12. Stairway To Heaven 12 MIN 13. Moby Dick 15 MIN 14. Heartbreaker/ Trampled Underfoot 9 MIN 15. Achilles Last Stand 11 MIN 16. Encores Whole Lotta Love, jumping to Black Dog, Communication Breakdown, Rock And Roll: 15 MIN TOT: 194 MIN The first three: As a 1-2 or 1-2-3 punch Immigrant Song and Heartbreaker only get silver. By 77, when Bonham really was beating the skins and the delivery of SA had more groove, I dare to say, that was the best show start ever. However, the 73 shows have a highlight for me as I always get the chills when RR turns into the opening riff of CD. That is a very special song and I do not wonder Page brought it back in 79. Too bad the delivery was not as good as in 73 (or earlier). So, I took it here to really blow some minds and as for the Immigrant song-HB intro, given the conditions on the band's shape RP could not possibly do the yells, even in lower key. NFBM & IMTOD bring a start-stop section to the show and at the moment I prefer IMTOD over OTHAFA as the latter has a good solo part but as a whole song I think the first one wins but it is so close they could be taken in turns as they kind of did 77. SIBLY & NQ section needs no explanation I guess. Just, the band should play the 75 rendition of NQ without the boogie section, that was a bit silly. Damn, I would be happy with a late 73 US tour versions too but they miss the long JPJ-Bonham interplay that is the key to happiness for me when that really worked out. First raw cut. The acoustic set is gone, sorry. But... I slow things down with the 75 EC version of Tangerine and the must have TYG. That'll have to do. Kashmir, by 77 they really had learned to deliver this one. Instead of having Page torturing a cat onstage for 20 minutes, why couldn't we listen to some music instead. Dazed has to be in the list. Absolute maximum is 35 minutes though. We can stick to the 75 versions where SF/Woodstock interludes were played. Stairway after Dazed. I think they got this one right in the set list 73. Later when they played it as the last song before the encores it does feel a little off the place. A hard rock ballad as a last song... MD: No Zep concert without one, just keep it short(ish). 77 LA versions or my preference, 70-72 versions without the timpani part. I'd like to hear HB after the drum solo as in 73 but here TU could rotate. Achilles, that is the true show stopper so to speak. Put on the lasers and smoke machines... here we go! As for the encores, they way WLL was played in Copenhagen & Knebworth 79 intrigues me. They found a new very cool riff. Let us use that and jump to BD, CB or RR depending on the day. It looks like I am tilting towards the late Zep for some reason... I mean the early 70-72 playing is very tight and 70-71 when RP's voice killed flies was really something else. However, as a whole show and also in terms of songs they composed they got better all the way to LA 77 when it got bloody galactic. Edited August 18, 2022 by JMH some typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgeholder Still Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Probably a tall order in '77, Jimmy stated "Dazed & Confused" wasn't in the setlist because, he no longer was, lol. Considering the title literally, it was probably the most appropriate tour for the song. I've envisioned an updated "San Francisco"/"Woodstock" jam > abbreviated noise solo > "Achilles Last Stand" for the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMH Posted August 19, 2022 Author Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) I thought about the same DC-ALS transition as the transition of noise solo to ALS does work very well. That could work, I would just need to consider the placing of the tunes in the setlist... hmm. Edit: maybe like this (although, looking at this I think STH should be brought last before encores, which I just critisized above, haha) 1. The Song Remains The Same 5 MIN 2. Sick Aagain (Rover Intro) 6 MIN 3. Celebration Day 5 MIN 4. Nobody's Fault But Mine 8 MIN 5. In My Time Of Dying/Over The Hills And Far Away 12 MIN 6. Since I've Been Loving You 10 MIN 7. No Quarter 25 MIN 8. Tangerine 5 MIN 9. Ten Years Gone 10 MIN 10. Kashmir 11 MIN 11. Moby Dick 15 MIN 12. Heartbreaker/ Trampled Underfoot 9 MIN 13. Stairway To Heaven 12 MIN 14. Dazed And Confused until the end of bow section 20 MIN 15. Achilles Last Stand 11 MIN 16. Encores Whole Lotta Love, jumping to Black Dog, Communication Breakdown, Rock And Roll: 15 MIN TOT: 179 MIN Edited August 19, 2022 by JMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Smith Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 I wish we could have heard Custard > Rover once. Just once. And In The Light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walesdad Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 50 minutes ago, Ian Smith said: I wish we could have heard Custard > Rover once. Just once. And In The Light. I always thought that both Custard Pie and The Rover would have been stunning stage songs for the band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMH Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 ^ Good points. I forgot to spoon in Wanton Song that they actually played live a couple of times. Once I have time I see if I need to edit my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmo Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 1. The Rover 2. Ramble On 3. Babe I’m Gonna Leave You (slide guitar rehearsal version). 4. OTHAFA 5. SIBLY 6. For Your Life 7. Nobody’s Fault But Mine 8. The Wanton Song 9. Ten Years Gone 10. Tangerine 11. Hey Hey What Can I Do 12. Bron-Yr-Aur 13. Kashmir 14. ALS 15. In The Evening 16. STH ————————- 17. Custard Pie 18. When The Levee Breaks 19. WLL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm2551 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Wanton song with last note held and goes into TSRTS for a knock out 1-2 punch opener followed by OTHAFA. Not too different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog-of-Doom Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 The Song Remains the Same – 5 min The Rover/Sick Again – 5 min (Celebration Day lost its power live after 1971 for me) In My Time of Dying – 10 min (Medley inc. The Lemon Song) Since I’ve Been Loving You (inc. Tea for One) - 12 min Moby Dick – 10 min Nobody's Fault but Mine – 6 min The Rain Song – 8 min Babe I’m Gonna Leave You (Pedal Steel Rehearsal) - 8 min Bron-Y-Aur-Stomp – 10 min (Medley inc. Dancing Days) That’s The Way –5 min Going to California – 9 min (Close to Osaka version) Bron-Yr-Aur – 3 min In The Light – 9 min No Quarter – 20 min Ten Years Gone – 9 min Achilles Last Stand – 9 min White Summer – 5 min straight into Kashmir – 9 min - Encore - Whole Lotta Love (inc. The Crunge) – 15 min Stairway To Heaven – 10 min Black Dog (Bring It on Home intro)– 5 min Organ Solo – 3 min Thank You – 6 min Equates to about 3 hours and 10 mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMH Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 A nice one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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