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You know you are getting a little jaded when the photogs have to bring strippers to keep you amused!!

I never heard there were tensions for the photo shoot. If there were, my guesses are:

--Bonzo mad as he did not know everyone else was going to show up as a fashionista.

--Percy had to wear a tie (I don't think I've ever seen him wear one before or since).

--Funny thing about Jimmy & His Hair, riding in a convertible to the shoot. What was it that Grant used to call him behind his back when Pagey used to primp his hair in the mirror??

--Jonesy was worried the strippers might be from New Orleans and/or were transvestites.

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I think the nickname Page earned for primping his hair was 'Old Girl'. I'll have to look up where I read that but I recall reading an anecdote about Page fuming at his driver because the convertible messed up his hair. Miss Pamela recounted in her book that Page used Pantene products at the time she was with him, and apparently she told Stephen Davis that he used to borrow her hair curler to make curls that hung "just like that."

These little stories are interesting to mull over in a "who knows?" fashion. Come to think of it, I don't recall seeing a picture of Robert Plant with a tie besides at this photo shoot either (unless one counts a photo of him that is supposedly from his daughter Carmen's wedding).

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I think the nickname Page earned for primping his hair was 'Old Girl'. I'll have to look up where I read that but I recall reading an anecdote about Page fuming at his driver because the convertible messed up his hair. Miss Pamela recounted in her book that Page used Pantene products at the time she was with him, and apparently she told Stephen Davis that he used to borrow her hair curler to make curls that hung "just like that."

These little stories are interesting to mull over in a "who knows?" fashion. Come to think of it, I don't recall seeing a picture of Robert Plant with a tie besides at this photo shoot either (unless one counts a photo of him that is supposedly from his daughter Carmen's wedding).

That photo of him with a bride is his daughter Carmen :)

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Hello, Nech. Ah, yes, that infamous outtake with Robert's trouser snake on full display.

It probably is a bit too racy for this board, but the ladies are sure to love it. Unaware

of any specific anecdote aside from Jimmy's hair getting mussed up on the way down

in Richard Cole's roadster. All were clearly amused, whatever the reason for dropping

his pants.

That pic's been on here a few times--but that was taken when they were wearing the other set of clothes, for the alternate session. I quote Dave Lewis on Jimmy's hair (basically just in support of what's been said here): "Jimmy had problems with his hair, having been driven by Richard Cole in his open top Austin Healy." He also says "Allegedly Jimmy could be seen with his flies undone which had to be retouched and Bonzo requested a few inches off his paunch. The rather dull skyline was then replaced by a backdrop from a Texas location."

I remember several stories about Jimmy arriving moaning about his hair!

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Hello, Nech. Ah, yes, that infamous outtake with Robert's trouser snake on full display.

It probably is a bit too racy for this board, but the ladies are sure to love it. Unaware

of any specific anecdote aside from Jimmy's hair getting mussed up on the way down

in Richard Cole's roadster. All were clearly amused, whatever the reason for dropping

his pants.

So I suppose the caption below this photo was something like, " Hot Dog thrusts into setlist of Led Zeppelin Knebworth concerts."

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If I remember correctly, May 8, 2004 and he jammed a few covers including "Crossroads" and "What I'd Say".

What is the specific date of this photo from 2004 where R. Plant performed at the reception of one of Phil Carson's children?

And do you know of any setlist, etc?

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Mr. Jones>>

What is the specific date of this photo from 2004 where R. Plant performed at the reception of one of Phil Carson's children?

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And do you know of any setlist, etc?

Was that with the band, Dude Jones I think was their name? They had a website with other photos and perhaps a set list but maybe it's not the same. The outfit looks similar which is why I mention it.

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No Jacket Required

"I was on tour with Robert Plant and we were staying at the Ambassador in Chicago. We had maybe 30 rooms in the hotel and were paying these exorbitant prices. The second night I was there, I went to the bar dressed fairly smart- proper trousers, not jeans, and a nice leather jacket - and I was told, "Sir, you can't come in here without a jacket." I said, "I'm wearing a jacket." So Robert just pushed the guy aside and walked through. I wasn't going to do that, I was going to stand and argue with the guy. He said, "It's not a proper jacket." To make a long story short, I was livid. I've never been so mad in my life - well, maybe once. I thought of different things to do. Like maybe going down there wearing the right kind of jacket and ordering a drink and just pouring it onto the floor and saying, "Well, I've got a jacket on! You can't do anything to me." Maybe I should smash a few photographs on the wall, a bit of the Robert Plant attitude. But I did nothing, of course. I just moaned about it."

Phil Collins, Playboy interview, October 1986

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Being signed to Atlantic, the Kids crossed paths with Led Zeppelin on a regular basis, even socialising with them from time to time. Keyboardist Danny Peyronel recalls one memorable late night drinking session in Blake’s Hotel in Chelsea suggesting that cracks were appearing in Zeppelin’s internal relations as well as their own.

“John Bonham was at the bar drinking quadruple brandies when singer Gary Holton went up to him and said something out of earshot,” he says. “Bonham just turned and whacked Gary in the stomach.

When he got his breath back, Gary went up and started, ‘Listen, man, I don’t know what I said…’, and Bonham tries to belt him again. This time Gary was too fast, ran up the stairs into the street with Bonham and his roadies chasing after him and shouting, ‘You bastard, come back here’… it was a scene from hell.

“They had to put Valiums in Bonham’s brandy to calm him down, it was embarrassing,” he says. “Robert Plant, Ronnie [Thomas] and I were chatting afterwards and Plant was saying, ‘I’ve had five years of this lunacy’, it’s unbearable’. Jimmy Page took Gary home, with Gary milking it for all it was worth. The next day they even made a formal apology.”

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This from mastronaut:

I had the honor of meeting Robert Plant on the Shaken and Stirred Tour at of all places Circle K (a convience store) in Sunrise, Florida. He was staying at the hotel up the street, walked in and asked if we sold Dom Perrion! I laughed and said no but I'm sure we have some Mad Dog 20/20..I didn't realize it was him at first, but he had a big dude with him who looked like Peter Grant. Robert was very polite and cool to me and even signed an autograph that said "Shake a hand". I was a singer in a band at the time and he was the one who got me into singing in the first place.

A dude who used to come in a lot that worked at the hotel stopped in and saw Robert and asked me if it was really him. I nodded yes, and Robert came up to pay for his items (I was so nervous I forgot what he bought). He thanked me by name and the hotel dude asked Robert if he knew me. He said yeah, then I said "Oh yeah we go back a long way". That guy's face was priceless! Robert said goodnight and that was that. He is and always has been a class act. I wish him the best at whichever endeavour he is involved in.

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Steve,

I don't know if this has been addressed in this thread or not. But it certianly warrants mentioning again if it has.

What is the story behind "Black Zeppelin"? I've read a few accounts of at least some of the members of both Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin having an informal jam together in 1970. I've also read that there was a common friendship among John Bonham and Bill Ward from Black Sabbath.

Recently I've read an interview with Ritchie Blackmore where he said that the tapes from those jams were in his attic at home and even goes on to mention which 2 or 3 songs were played together. I believe they are Black Sabbath songs.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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Steve,

What is the story behind these enigmatic photos? They're obviously video stills as we've seen a snippet of Robert & Jimmy dancing with the German Shepherd from the Stargroves or Headley Grange session attributed to Eddie Kramer.

Are we to infer that some of the recording sessions @ Headley Grange or Stargroves were filmed? Incredible if true.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

http://picasaweb.google.com/CaptCrunge/STI...286336133602850

http://picasaweb.google.com/CaptCrunge/STI...286338054128530

Stargroves or Headley Grange

http://picasaweb.google.com/CaptCrunge/STI...871650744119074

http://picasaweb.google.com/CaptCrunge/STI...286338485616530

http://picasaweb.google.com/CaptCrunge/STI...886449283998466

http://picasaweb.google.com/CaptCrunge/STI...886458182774962

http://picasaweb.google.com/CaptCrunge/STI...886467090594194

Japan

http://picasaweb.google.com/CaptCrunge/STI...286345102809666

http://picasaweb.google.com/CaptCrunge/STI...286346657245330

http://picasaweb.google.com/CaptCrunge/STI...286353072013794

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Drummers Bill Ward and John Bonham go way back. Bill attended one of Bonham's gigs at The Wharf in Worcestershire in 1965, and recalls Bonham "...had a pint of bitter at his feet throughout…" I sourced a BRMB Radio tribute that aired in the Midlands. Ozzy is among many local musicians who share ancedotes and memories of socializing with Bonham thru the years. Black Sabbath was also a short-notice support act for Led Zeppelin in Syracuse & Rochester NY (9/10-11/71).

Anyway, on June 26, 1972 Led Zeppelin allegedly dropped in on Black Sabbath to check on the progress of their fourth album & jammed on their new song, 'Supernaut' (unrecorded).

It's certainly plausible they also had a jam in 1970, but the details elude me at the moment. I will see what I can find out, but this from a Black Sabbath FAQ.

The "Holy Grail" of Black Sabbath material is the "Black Zeppelin" jam, a supposed recording of members of Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath playing together. This recording can't be found in trading circles, if it even exists at all. According to Bill Ward if there are any of these in existence, Spock Wall would have them.

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Steve,

What is the story behind these enigmatic photos?

Oh hell, Frank I'm still investigating your previous finds! :lol:

The three from Japan certainly appear to be video captures. It is known they were

carrying movie recorders with them as they toured Japan. If memory serves correct

this fact is conclusive in photographs of them visiting the Hiroshima Peace Park.

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Drummers Bill Ward and John Bonham go way back. Bill attended one of Bonham's gigs at The Wharf in Worcestershire in 1965, and recalls Bonham "...had a pint of bitter at his feet throughout…" I sourced a BRMB Radio tribute that aired in the Midlands. Ozzy is among many local musicians who share ancedotes and memories of socializing with Bonham thru the years. Black Sabbath was also a short-notice support act for Led Zeppelin in Syracuse & Rochester NY (9/10-11/71).

Anyway, on June 26, 1972 Led Zeppelin allegedly dropped in on Black Sabbath to check on the progress of their fourth album & jammed on their new song, 'Supernaut' (unrecorded).

It's certainly plausible they also had a jam in 1970, but the details elude me at the moment. I will see what I can find out, but this from a Black Sabbath FAQ.

The "Holy Grail" of Black Sabbath material is the "Black Zeppelin" jam, a supposed recording of members of Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath playing together. This recording can't be found in trading circles, if it even exists at all. According to Bill Ward if there are any of these in existence, Spock Wall would have them.

Spot on Steve! Very interesting. I had not heard the info about the 72 jam.

However, I do recall 'Supernaut' being mentioned in reference to the 1970 jam. Hmmm.

The plot thickens.

And I defintely remember reading that Ritchie Blackmore interview where he so casually says the recordings from the jam with Zeppelin is in his attic. I remember so vividly because I was thinking: "Well,why DON'T you release them???"

Either way, I look forward to any follow up on this intriguing subject.

Thanks again.

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And I defintely remember reading that Ritchie Blackmore interview where he so casually says the recordings from the jam with Zeppelin is in his attic. I remember so vividly because I was thinking: "Well,why DON'T you release them???"

I think you meant Tony Iommi, not Ritchie Blackmore...anyway, I will look into this.

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