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Possibly one of the five nights at Earls Court in '75. Try to repost it to YouTube or send me a link.

Sorry, but I don't know how to post it on YT :blush: . I only have the mp3 (ripped off of YT) and I certainly don't know how to make videos.

I don't think it was Earls Court. Plant's voice sounds younger. And is not the BBC version either.

Oh, and another hint: the opening acoustic guitar part is much lower and slower than the studio version. The whole version is much slower and sadder (if that is possible).

And, on the final part (where is that "cut" in the song, begining the little guitar solo), Plant is singing in crescendo something as "it ain't right ..it ain't right...".

Also, I didn't noticed any tambourine sound (I suppose the "jingle" sound on the studio version was a tambourine)

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Sorry, but I don't know how to post it on YT blush.gif . I only have the mp3 (ripped off of YT) and I certainly don't know how to make videos. I don't think it was Earls Court. Plant's voice sounds younger. And is not the BBC version either. Oh, and another hint: the opening acoustic guitar part is much lower and slower than the studio version. The whole version is much slower and sadder (if that is possible). And, on the final part (where is that "cut" in the song, begining the little guitar solo), Plant is singing in crescendo something as "it ain't right ..it ain't right...". Also, I didn't noticed any tambourine sound (I suppose the "jingle" sound on the studio version was a tambourine)

...recollection is imprecise as it is Earls Court 1975, as I've said:

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Sorry, Steve, but it's not IT. This Earls Court version is more ..idk...lithe. My version is darker.

I've shown the vocal ad-lib you referred to was used during one of the five nights at Earls Court Arena in 1975. I'm confident if you listen to the audio recordings from the other four Earls Court '75 concerts you can pinpoint the version of That's The Way you have described.

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Jul/Aug '67 Jimmy Page Performance on CKLG 730 AM Radio in Vancouver Remembered

No recording or additional details available at this time. See below.

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When Vancouver rock radio bubbled up from the underground

During the Summer of Love in 1967, Tim Burge was a Boss Jock with Vancouver's CKLG-AM.

by Neal Hall

Vancouver Sun

August 8th 2007

During the Summer of Love in 1967, Tim Burge was a Boss Jock with Vancouver's CKLG-AM.

Frustrated with playing sappy pop singles while the psychedelic music scene was exploding, especially after attending the Monterey Pop Music Festival in the San Francisco Bay area, Burge suggested to LG managers that they try a new format, similar to that being pioneered by San Francisco disc jockey Tom Donahue at radio station KMPX -- a free-form, acid rock format that became known as underground radio.

His idea fell on deaf ears at CKLG. Oddly enough, Vancouver radio station CJOR, owned by businessman Jimmy Pattison, agreed to give the format a try.

Burge claims it was the first rock radio program of its kind in Canada at the time: During his 8 p.m. to midnight shift, he played everything from jazz (John Coltrane and Roland Kirk) to the Velvet Underground, the Grateful Dead and Jimi Hendrix.

The show lasted only three months.

Burge recalls that Pattison was at home one night, listening to his station, and was shocked to hear Burge playing Hendrix's Third Stone from the Sun, a spaced-out psychedelic rap that fused together slowed-down sound effects, jazz and rock guitar.

Days later, CJOR hired a new program director, Red Robinson, who told Burge that his "hippie dippy garbage" had no future.

"He also suggested I get a haircut," Burge recalls.

After the program was canned, CJOR went back to playing Engelbert Humperdinck and Patti Page songs.

One Vancouverite who protested the loss of Burge's show was a young University of B.C. law student, Mike Harcourt.

"I regret your decision, Mr. Robinson," the future Vancouver mayor and B.C. premier said in a letter that Burge still has. "Mr. Burge's program excited me about radio programming for the first time in years . . . Unfortunately, you have turned him into one of the thousand and one DJs across the continent spinning out a phoney 'adult' sound reminiscent of the Doris Day-Rock Hudson movies."

But Robinson didn't relent and Burge went into exile at a Victoria station.

But CKLG called next spring, in March 1968, wanting him to return to CKLG-FM, which was adopting the underground rock format. Burge became a DJ and also assumed music director duties at the station, whose new DJs would include Terry David Mulligan, John Tanner and J.B. Shayne.

"It really was a wonderful time in radio," recalls Burge, now known as Pamela Burge. "It was free form. I remember Jimmy Page, then with the Yardbirds [and later Led Zeppelin] coming into the studio with his guitar and playing."

Now a community support worker in the mental health field, Burge has been living as a woman since 1993 and had a gender change in 1996.

He also recalls Mulligan decided one weekend to allow the public in for a tour of the CKLG-FM studio. "People were lined up inside and smoking pot. I remember one of the managers came in the next day and the place stunk."

Another pioneer in Vancouver radio in 1967 was 24-year-old Bill Reiter, who owned Bill & Bob's Record Shop, which sold rhythm-and-blues and soul records in the world's narrowest building at 10 East Pender St. in Chinatown.

CKLG program director Frank Callaghan asked Reiter to host an experimental program on CKLG-FM, which at the time was playing classical music and wanted to appeal to a younger audience.

Reiter called the show Groovin' Blue -- the title of a 1961 jazz album by Curtis Amy and Frank Butler. It was the first of its kind in Canada, playing only play black music: the latest R&B, soul, blues, jazz, funk, gospel and salsa. It first aired in September 1967 on Saturday nights from 6:30 to 8:30. Six months later, when CKLG-FM switched to all-rock, it ran 6-8 p.m, Monday through Saturday.

The 100,000-watt signal could be heard by fans in Washington state, recalls Reiter, who says a New Yorker phoned one night to say he'd recently been on a freighter in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, heading to Vancouver from Japan, when he picked up the Groovin' Blue signal. The Big Apple denizen said he couldn't believe anyone in Canada was playing New York conga drum hero Mongo Santamaria, as well as Pucho & his Latin Soul Brothers.

Reiter recalls that many recording artists got their first Canadian airplay on the program: Ollie & the Nightingales, Marva Whitney, the Dapps, Sy Risby, the Joe Tex Band, Sly & the Family Stone, the Trials of Jayson Hoover, Freddy Robinson, Mabel John, Oscar Toney Jr., the Raelettes, O'Dell Brown & the Organizers and Melvin Van Peebles.

Groovin' Blue lasted for two years, ending in mid-September 1969. Reiter says the Groovin' Blue format will make its home next February on the Internet via radio station WAGR, which he will co-host with Sunny (Sweet Daddy Fonk) Wong, Al (There's This Line) Foreman, Buddy Bok & Harry Bok (Chow) and voice-actor Jim Conrad.

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The Mysterious Woman Featured in Robert Plant's Heaven Knows

A band member confirmed her name is Alice Gee and that she may have been a model as opposed to as an actress.

Alas, she seems to have vanished into the mists of history. I'm seeking any additional information as to how she

came to be selected for this project, examples of her other work and her whereabouts today for an interview.

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This way please

Though I doubt there's any information intersting enough for you. wink.gif

Presuming it is her, I just think it's terrific she's still beautiful and apparently has still got a successful modeling career. Aubrey Powell directed the video and may be able to explain how and why she was selected for the role, though I doubt he could recall specifics now. I will follow the lead you've provided and keep digging for her agent's contact details.

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Hi Steve-

Do you know anything about a documentary about Led Zeppelin called "Dazed and Confused"?

If it's this one, I didn't actually hear it so I can't comment. If anyone taped it please get in touch:

Dazed And Confused - The Led Zeppelin Legacy

Aired: Tuesday, September 30 2009 from 10:30-11:30pm

Part of BBC Radio 2's Guitar Season, Johnnie Walker presented a profile of rock goliaths Led Zeppelin.

Another chance to hear Johnnie Walker exploring the lasting appeal and influence of quintessential heavy-rock

band Led Zeppelin, best known for Stairway to Heaven, Black Dog and Whole Lotta Love.

With contributions from Franz Ferdinand, Ash, and Tori Amos.

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If you scroll down the page, I think you will find details of the documentary film you're looking for, with a trailer

Dazed and Confused

I see now it's being marketed as something "new" but as the trailer shows this dvd is little more than a rehash of tv and bootleg footage previously released elsewhere. I must say it irks me when documentarians get it wrong - the "voice of

11 year old Jimmy Page" in the trailer is the voice of 14 year old Jimmy Page taken from his appearance on the b&w BBC television program 'All Your Own' with host Huw Wheldon that originally aired April 4, 1958.

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I see now it's being marketed as something "new" but as the trailer shows this dvd is little more than a rehash of tv and bootleg footage previously released elsewhere. I must say it irks me when documentarians get it wrong - the "voice of

11 year old Jimmy Page" in the trailer is the voice of 14 year old Jimmy Page taken from his appearance on the b&w BBC television program 'All Your Own' with host Huw Wheldon that originally aired April 4, 1958.

Thanks Steve and Cerisaye for the quick replies-

Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of second-rate material out there.

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Steve, I see a number of Internet references to JPJ changing his name from John Richard Baldwin. Is this just Web hearsay or has it been verified anywhere? Also, in discussing his parents' variety / musical act, Jones has referred to his musician father Joe Baldwin, but are there any billings or other info identifying Mrs. Baldwin, who was also part of the show? It seems JPJ has the most obscure family background of all the Zep members, intentionally or not.

PS: Hey Evster, welcome to the heartland! I moved from Vancouver to northern Ontario a couple of years ago, the Canadian equivalent of relocating from SoCal to Wisconsin. Talk about OTHAFA!

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Steve, I see a number of Internet references to JPJ changing his name from John Richard Baldwin. Is this just Web hearsay or has it been verified anywhere? Also, in discussing his parents' variety / musical act, Jones has referred to his musician father Joe Baldwin, but are there any billings or other info identifying Mrs. Baldwin, who was also part of the show? It seems JPJ has the most obscure family background of all the Zep members, intentionally or not.

George, I'll see what I have on file.

Edited to add: John began playing piano at the age of six, having learned keyboard skills from his father who was a pianist and arranger for big bands in the 1940s and '50s. John's mother was a singer and a dancer. I believe he said his Grandmother was also involved in music. I've yet to see any billings for his parents, but given the venues they played - such as clubs on at U.S. Air Force bases throughout England - it's doubtful any have survived if they were published at all.

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I think the story about JPJ's middle name being "Richard" was the result of some cheeky Wikipedia editing (which was then picked up by other websites that copy from Wikipedia). There's no real evidence that his middle name was Richard. In fact, BMI is now listing him as "John D. Baldwin".

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I think the story about JPJ's middle name being "Richard" was the result of some cheeky Wikipedia editing (which was then picked up by other websites that copy from Wikipedia). There's no real evidence that his middle name was Richard. In fact, BMI is now listing him as "John D. Baldwin".

Wikipedia is the knows all balls all...don't ya know? I won't even go into what is commonly used in lieu of Richard...

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Jimmy's Jukebox

November 17

The King with his jukebox and his photo of the kings - look closely and work it out. - Ross Halfin

Photo Link: http://www.rosshalfi...vember-2009.php

My Response:

The photo hanging over Jimmy's jukebox shows Elvis "The King" Presley meeting the King of Thailand on May 21, 1960. It was taken in Hollywood on the set for his film 'G.I. Blues'.

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