Zeppelin Mysteries Hosted by Steve A. Jones

[Geezer]

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Edited May 3, 2013 by Geezer

[Disco Duck]

Can I ask why the most interesting (magic and backmasking) mysteries are going to be ignored?

It's an urban legend that has already been debunked elsewhere. Do a Google search if you don't believe me.

[phredzeppelin63]

It's an urban legend that has already been debunked elsewhere. Do a Google search if you don't believe me.

And let me add the biggest bunch of poppycock total bull$**t I have just about ever heard,but the band did have a lot of freaky incidents and bad luck in their twelve years together!

[SteveAJones]

Can I ask why the most interesting (magic and backmasking) mysteries are going to be ignored?

Those topics are not covered in this thread because they are discussed extensively in other threads. The search function will reveal links.

[dazedjeffy]

Can I ask why the most interesting (magic and backmasking) mysteries are going to be ignored?

Backmasking link - http://www.led-zeppelin.org/audio-archive/43

[Geezer]

Can you guys verify that this photo is from 4 May 1973?

Also, where is this photo from?

Edited May 6, 2013 by Geezer

[backinthezeppelin]

Because it's bullcrap.

Well, how can you prove or disprove it if it can't be featured as a mystery?

[magerogue]

Well, how can you prove or disprove it if it can't be featured as a mystery?

Do you actually think that between exhausting tours and recording LPs they'd care for lyrics that would make senseif the record was played backwards?

It's non-sense and it's not a mystery, it's infact pure logic... It's bullshit and there's plenty of threads here about that.

Edited May 6, 2013 by magerogue

[magerogue]

Can you guys verify that this photo is from 4 May 1973?

Also, where is this photo from?

I'm almost positive that the first one is from Atlanta because of Roberts shirt, and I think that the 2nd photo is from one of the LA shows from 1972, The Forum most likely

[SteveAJones]

Well, how can you prove or disprove it if it can't be featured as a mystery?

Take it to a more appropriate thread please, there are plenty to choose from.

[SteveAJones]

Can you guys verify that this photo is from 4 May 1973?

Also, where is this photo from?

Photos are best investigated within the Zeppelin Photo Mysteries thread. Having said that, here's a link to a great chronology of Led Zeppelin photosets:

http://www.ledzeppelin-reference.com/Geekbaseweb/photolistpage.aspx?sort=0

[ListenToThis]

Would it be possible to list the cities that served as "home base" during the 1977 tours, and the dates (time period) in which they stayed in the respective hotels?

I believe the cities were New York, LA, Dallas, Chicago and Seattle? Perhaps not...

[SteveAJones]

Thirty years after the fact it's somewhat difficult to confirm with absolute certainty, but this is what I've been able to compile through the years

based on band recollections, verified eyewitness accounts and photographic evidence.

Chicago, New York & New Orleans are generally considered to have been their "home bases" or primary hubs for this tour.

1st leg

Royal Orleans in New Orleans

For the Dallas rehearsals and show.

Ambassador East Hotel in Chicago

For Oklahoma, the Chicago dates, Minneapolis, St. Paul, St. Louis and Indianapolis

Hilton at Cincinnatti Airport

For Cincinnatti (and Dayton which was cancelled)

Peachtree Plaza Hotel in Atlanta

For Louisville and Atlanta

Swingo's Celebrity Hotel in Cleveland

For Richfield

Hilton in Troy

For Pontiac Silverdome

2nd leg

Maison Dupuy Hotel in New Orleans

For Birmingham, Baton Rouge, Houston, Fort Worth

Plaza Hotel in New York

For the Landover dates

Unconfirmed hotel overlooking Miami Beach

For Tampa (Plant likely, Jones possibly & Bonham maybe stayed in Orlando for Disney World visit instead)

Plaza Hotel in New York

For the New York City dates

Beverly Hilton Hotel

For San Diego, Los Angeles

Edgewater Inn in Seattle

For Seattle

Marriott's Camelback Inn

For Tempe

Hyatt Hotel San Francisco

For Oakland

Maison Dupuy Hotel

For New Orleans (cancelled)

Would it be possible to list the cities that served as "home base" during the 1977 tours, and the dates (time period) in which they stayed in the respective hotels?

I believe the cities were New York, LA, Dallas, Chicago and Seattle? Perhaps not...

[Wolfman]

What song is Jimmy playing with that big acoustic guitar?

[ListenToThis]

Thanks Steve. I wonder why that choose to forgo Royal Orleans the second and third times around?

Thirty years after the fact it's somewhat difficult to confirm with absolute certainty, but this is what I've been able to compile through the years

based on band recollections, verified eyewitness accounts and photographic evidence.

Chicago, New York & New Orleans are generally considered to have been their "home bases" or primary hubs for this tour.

1st leg

Royal Orleans in New Orleans

For the Dallas rehearsals and show.

Ambassador East Hotel in Chicago

For Oklahoma, the Chicago dates, Minneapolis, St. Paul, St. Louis and Indianapolis

Hilton at Cincinnatti Airport

For Cincinnatti (and Dayton which was cancelled)

Peachtree Plaza Hotel in Atlanta

For Louisville and Atlanta

Swingo's Celebrity Hotel in Cleveland

For Richfield

Hilton in Troy

For Pontiac Silverdome

2nd leg

Maison Dupuy Hotel in New Orleans

For Birmingham, Baton Rouge, Houston, Fort Worth

Plaza Hotel in New York

For the Landover dates

Unconfirmed hotel overlooking Miami Beach

For Tampa (Plant likely, Jones possibly & Bonham maybe stayed in Orlando for Disney World visit instead)

Plaza Hotel in New York

For the New York City dates

Beverly Hilton Hotel

For San Diego, Los Angeles

Edgewater Inn in Seattle

For Seattle

Marriott's Camelback Inn

For Tempe

Hyatt Hotel San Francisco

For Oakland

Maison Dupuy Hotel

For New Orleans (cancelled)

[ListenToThis]

I believe he is playing "Tangerine" but am only moderately confident on that

What song is Jimmy playing with that big acoustic guitar?

[scylla]

Thirty years after the fact it's somewhat difficult to confirm with absolute certainty, but this is what I've been able to compile through the years

based on band recollections, verified eyewitness accounts and photographic evidence.

Chicago, New York & New Orleans are generally considered to have been their "home bases" or primary hubs for this tour.

1st leg

Royal Orleans in New Orleans

For the Dallas rehearsals and show.

Ambassador East Hotel in Chicago

For Oklahoma, the Chicago dates, Minneapolis, St. Paul, St. Louis and Indianapolis

Hilton at Cincinnatti Airport

For Cincinnatti (and Dayton which was cancelled)

Peachtree Plaza Hotel in Atlanta

For Louisville and Atlanta

Swingo's Celebrity Hotel in Cleveland

For Richfield

Hilton in Troy

For Pontiac Silverdome

2nd leg

Maison Dupuy Hotel in New Orleans

For Birmingham, Baton Rouge, Houston, Fort Worth

Plaza Hotel in New York

For the Landover dates

Unconfirmed hotel overlooking Miami Beach

For Tampa (Plant likely, Jones possibly & Bonham maybe stayed in Orlando for Disney World visit instead)

Plaza Hotel in New York

For the New York City dates

Beverly Hilton Hotel

For San Diego, Los Angeles

Edgewater Inn in Seattle

For Seattle

Marriott's Camelback Inn

For Tempe

Hyatt Hotel San Francisco

For Oakland

Maison Dupuy Hotel

For New Orleans (cancelled)

This is cool. Do you have any similar lists for other US tours (or does anyone?)

[Geezer]

I believe he is playing "Tangerine" but am only moderately confident on that

That's true. Jimmy used Giannini Craviola from September 1971 to the US tour 1972 for Tangerine.

[And You Know How It Is?]

Edgewater Inn in Seattle

For Seattle

Hi Steve,

I just read somewhere, and I'll see if I can find the source, that Zep were banned from the Edgewater following their July 1973 stay, due to mudsharks lying all over the hotel/rooms, and stinking up the place! Have you read that as well? If so, I wonder where they stayed in Seattle in 1975 and 1977?

[SteveAJones]

This is cool. Do you have any similar lists for other US tours (or does anyone?)

Yes, but they are not quite as complete. If a "Led Zeppelin Slept Here" or similar such thread is started I could probably post them all.

[SteveAJones]

Thanks Steve. I wonder why that choose to forgo Royal Orleans the second and third times around?

I'm not sure I understand correctly. They were staying in New Orleans for portions of each of the three legs of the tour.

[SteveAJones]

Hi Steve,

I just read somewhere, and I'll see if I can find the source, that Zep were banned from the Edgewater following their July 1973 stay, due to mudsharks lying all over the hotel/rooms, and stinking up the place! Have you read that as well? If so, I wonder where they stayed in Seattle in 1975 and 1977?

Their Seattle hotel in March '75 has eluded my chronology, but I'll track it down; I believe it was the Edgewater Inn.

Their Seattle hotel in July '77 was the Edgewater Inn as posted above.

The infamous mud shark incident occured there July 28, 1969.

[scylla]

Yes, but they are not quite as complete. If a "Led Zeppelin Slept Here" or similar such thread is started I could probably post them all.

The thread is started:

http://forums.ledzeppelin.com/index.php?/topic/20062-led-zeppelin-slept-here/

[ListenToThis]

I'm not sure I understand correctly. They were staying in New Orleans for portions of each of the three legs of the tour.

I was just wondering why they changed hotels from Royal Orleans when staying in New Orleans on the 2nd and 3rd legs.

[scylla]

“Ronnie Wood says now that he, too, had been approached by Page to become the bassist in the New Yardbirds. ‘But I didn’t fancy that at all,’ he grimaces, putting out one cigarette to light another. ‘All that heavy stuff wasn’t my bag at all […]. I wanted to play guitar again. Joining Jimmy would have been like playing with Jeff [beck], stuck on bass. And anyway, there was only ever going to be one guitarist in a group like [Led Zeppelin] – and it wasn’t going to be me.’”

- From "When Giants Walked The Earth"

“Although Peter [Grant] didn’t treat the rest of us as well as he treated Jeff and himself, he did in the early days offer me the chance of being in a band other than the Jeff Beck Group. He told me that a bunch of blokes were putting a band together and intended to call themselves The New Yardbirds. Peter said, ‘They want you as their guitar player’.

Well, I’d met a few of them at his office, including the rude drummer John Bonham, who reminded me of a farmer, bassist John Paul Jones and the harmless enough Robert Plant, and I told Peter, ‘No, I’m happy where I am, thanks’. He insisted, ‘This is an offer you really must consider’. I considered it for two seconds, and then told him again, ‘No way’. The New Yardbirds hired Jimmy Page instead and changed their name to Led Zeppelin.”

- Ronnie Wood in “Ronnie”, his autobiography

I just flicked through “Ronnie” today and just wondered what the hell that second quote is about. I mean, the idea that the other three members (none of whom had been in the Yardbirds, so why on earth would they be calling themselves that?) were assembled and then started looking for a guitarist is so completely the opposite of what we know to be true. It’s impossible that Wood would even have bought that at the time, let alone thirty-odd years later (the book’s from 2007). The account doesn’t even match Wood’s own account in “When Giants Walked The Earth”. (Which merely says that Page was in the early stages of putting a band together, and that Wood might have been in the frame for bassist before Jones came along, if he’d wanted).

So what is the deal with this? Page, after having already assembled the whole group, was seriously considering having it be a two-guitar band, and told Grant to test the water whilst keeping his name out of it? Grant was testing Wood’s loyalty, or otherwise playing some weird head game with him? Or it’s just Wood using his book to have some kind of peculiar in-joke with Page?

Edited May 10, 2013 by scylla