SteveAJones Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 I could not see Zeppelin play JFK Stadium in Philadelphia and Chicago doing the same set list, it would have been much longer for sure. Hmmm, maybe a 30 minute version of Carouselambra ??They weren't scheduled to perform at JFK Stadium in Philadelphia, it was to be The Spectrum on 10/22, 11/3 & 11/4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzoghost Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Jack Bonham (John & Mick's father) owned a construction business. It is my understanding Mick was employed for some time by his father. Mick also opened a Dolly Disc franchise circa 1975, around the time he married. Within a year they had a small child to raise, and by 1979 they had two children to raise. If I had Mick's book at arm's reach I could probably find some relevant quotes to post. As a by the way, I believe the freehold country house building site John is briefly seen breaking up bricks at in The Song Remains the Same was one of his father's business projects at the time.That 'freehold country house' is Old Hyde Farm, is it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 That 'freehold country house' is Old Hyde Farm, is it not?It hasn't been ruled out, but according to my notes it's one of his father's building projects at the time. See still at 141:23 below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uosvswmf5Yk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzoghost Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Your 'notes'. Ha ha!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Your 'notes'. Ha ha!! Whatever.Old Hyde FarmThe original farmhouse was demolished and rebuilt to twice it's original size, under the direction of his father Jack Bonham, an experienced builder and carpenter who owned a construction company J. H. Bonham & Son. The farm cottage and outbuildings were also heavily renovated, and barns and stables built. One of the barns was converted into a motor car workshop. Local contractors Stan and Peter Blick were also employed for the brickworking, and Tuffy and Andy Reeves the flooring and roofing. Overseeing the rebuilding was architect Grace Plant, who was married to Robert Plant's cousin Malcolm. Work was completed by 1974. In 1976, John Bonham later set up J. H. Bonham Developments, a building renovation business, from his experiences with rebuilding the Old Hyde. Edited November 20, 2015 by SteveAJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzoghost Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Indeed. It's all there in Mick Bonhams book and in TSRTS movie. According to my notes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 Indeed. It's all there in Mick Bonhams book and in TSRTS movie. According to my notes...Those details aren't in the film and my initial notes on the subject precede Mick Bonham's book by at least a decade. Enjoy the site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcarter690 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 They weren't scheduled to perform at JFK Stadium in Philadelphia, it was to be The Spectrum on 10/22, 11/3 & 11/4. Indeed. My best friend had tickets to the 10/22 show. Also, JFK was an outdoor stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzoghost Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Those details aren't in the film and my initial notes on the subject precede Mick Bonham's book by at least a decade. Enjoy the site! Those 'details' are totally in the film, Mick Bonhams book and even Richard Coles book. Watch Moby Dick again, the part wher he's using the jackhammer. Then look at pics of Old Hyde in the two books. The window frames are a dead giveaway. Throw away your ridiculous 'notes' and smack the person who supplied you with them, for they are incorrect sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Those 'details' are totally in the film, Mick Bonhams book and even Richard Coles book. Watch Moby Dick again, the part wher he's using the jackhammer. Then look at pics of Old Hyde in the two books. The window frames are a dead giveaway. Throw away your ridiculous 'notes' and smack the person who supplied you with them, for they are incorrect sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Those 'details' are totally in the film, Mick Bonhams book and even Richard Coles book. Watch Moby Dick again, the part wher he's using the jackhammer. Then look at pics of Old Hyde in the two books. The window frames are a dead giveaway. Throw away your ridiculous 'notes' and smack the person who supplied you with them, for they are incorrect sir.They are quite correct, as the Old Hyde Farm renovations were done in part by his father's construction firm. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzoghost Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 My point is, you weren't sure if the building project seen in the film is Old Hyde Farm. Well, now you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 My point is, you weren't sure if the building project seen in the film is Old Hyde Farm. Well, now you know.I wasn't certain, that's right, and now that we've explored this a bit further I'm comfortable enough to claim certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzoghost Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Excellent, glad to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpense Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 circa 1984 Jimmy Page jamCool picture. Both guitarists use the same size Ernie Ball Strings 8-38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Work Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Awesome thread that I've been following for a while, on the regular. Just sayin' thanks to Steve and all the other contributors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler19 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Steve - Have you heard any rumours of the Page & Plant recordings being re-issued on vinyl? The complete Unledded would fit very nicely on a double album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thozil Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) I found this on a very well-documented Badfinger fansite (but no other info for this date was provided). This would be a new date I think. Any idea if this actually happened?Update: I just noticed this was already posted (p141)...I guess it's still a mystery... Edited December 4, 2015 by thozil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzoghost Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I found this on a very well-documented Badfinger fansite (but no other info for this date was provided). This would be a new date I think. Any idea if this actually happened?Update: I just noticed this was already posted (p141)...I guess it's still a mystery...I very much doubt it - the American tour finished on 31 August and they didn't hit the road again until October. Travelling to Germany for one (small) show would make no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatOne Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I always read the tour list and early era of Zeppelin was poorly documented. The tour list we see is not the be all - end all story and it's possible they were in Germany. Did anyone contact the site and ask where they got the info ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thozil Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I always read the tour list and early era of Zeppelin was poorly documented. The tour list we see is not the be all - end all story and it's possible they were in Germany. Did anyone contact the site and ask where they got the info ? Question sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatOne Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I see now how you can go back to p141. Maybe it was a joke, but the Fuzzbox story sounds familiar. That's a pretty nice hike from Dusseldorf to Copenhagen the next day. I don't think there were bridges back then that connected those islands to Copenhagen and they would have taken a Ferry across the Baltic Sea or took an airplane ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thozil Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Response from the Badfinger site. I sent a follow-up question as well.The info came from The Iveys' personal manager Bill Collins. If you have info showing that Led Zeppelin didn't play, I'd like to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatOne Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 That's hilarious that he wants to see info they did not play there. I got confused at first when it said New Yardbirds and thought was meant to be 1968 the day before Zeppelins first Scandinavian Tour. If this is 1968 could there be any chances Zeppelin did some shows in Frankfurt, Dortmund, Amsterdam area shows right before the Scandinavian Tour ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thozil Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 My follow-up email yielded this inconclusive response:Based on the fact that Bill Collins had the listing as the New Yardbirds, it is likely that this German gig was booked over a year in advance (maybe summer of 1968), and since we know after the fact that Led Zeppelin played no concerts in September 1969, we must assume that Led Zeppelin backed out of their obligation some time in 1969 after their popularity soared and their tour schedules changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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