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1 hour ago, BobDobbs said:

If the mob was involved, the Plaza was within the Luchesi Family dominion.

I do believe that the Plaza was in downtown Manhattan.  From all the Mob shows I watch on, TV,  I would think it was the Gambino family that did the heist (way before John Gotti).  Again I could be wrong.

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28 minutes ago, kingzoso said:

I do believe that the Plaza was in downtown Manhattan.  From all the Mob shows I watch on, TV,  I would think it was the Gambino family that did the heist (way before John Gotti).  Again I could be wrong.

The Luchesi & Gambino Families shared Manhattan and frequently collaborated in heists so it is likely one or the other did the job. Being 73' even if they were not, whoever was would have had to still kick a percentage of the take up to either or both families or risk being found in a landfill. If a Zep entourage member did it though that's a different and far more F'ed up story.

BTW, the Luchesi family is the most profitable of the 5 families as they have always kept the lowest profile and have no problem working with the other families.

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1 hour ago, BobDobbs said:

The Luchesi & Gambino Families shared Manhattan and frequently collaborated in heists so it is likely one or the other did the job. Being 73' even if they were not, whoever was would have had to still kick a percentage of the take up to either or both families or risk being found in a landfill. If a Zep entourage member did it though that's a different and far more F'ed up story.

BTW, the Luchesi family is the most profitable of the 5 families as they have always kept the lowest profile and have no problem working with the other families.

Good answer.  I am saying that is Semi Real  but I thought the Luchesi Family controlled the Idlewild airport.  Not downtown Manhattan.  I will admit that I am saying this based on Goodfellas, however I know a lot about Led Zeppelin.  Who stole the money, obviously I don't know.  But i would bet it was the Gambinos.

 

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39 minutes ago, kingzoso said:

Good answer.  I am saying that is Semi Real  but I thought the Luchesi Family controlled the Idlewild airport.  Not downtown Manhattan.  I will admit that I am saying this based on Goodfellas, however I know a lot about Led Zeppelin.  Who stole the money, obviously I don't know.  But i would bet it was the Gambinos.

 

Per the interwebs:

What is the Lucchese family territory? The family's territory includes the boroughs of Brooklyn, the Bronx and Manhattan. It also operates in New Jersey and Florida. The family's chief criminal enterprises include drug trafficking, labor rackets, extortion, smuggling, loan-sharking, gun running and bookmaking.

Though as the Gambino's and particularly the Bergin Crew of which Gotti was an associate (he was not a made member yet) frequently worked with several Lucchese crews in Manhattan. Throughout 1973 Gotti, Ruggiero, and the Bergin crew were pulling heists in this area of Manhattan so its a likely possibility they were involved or at least knew about the LZ heist before it happened.

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6 hours ago, kingzoso said:

Maybe it was Richard Cole or possibly Peter Grant, but I doubt it.  

It was some faction of the Mafia. 

Any concur or object?

It has all the makings of being a publicity stunt and yet it's unlikely it was Cole and highly unlikely it was Grant because in my opinion it reflects very badly on them. We also know when the band was informed they were very angry and if you watch the press conference footage closely note Grant subtly gives viewers the finger. Perhaps that was his way of sending a message to those responsible, realizing they would undoubtedly be watching the news coverage. 

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"World's 1st Underwater Listening Party"...Outrider Album Release...June 16, 1988 

Anyone else have one of these? I've only seen two. Mine (mint, acquired 1992) and one on ebay (slight shoulder stain). What I really want to know is if this event really happened and where. Apparently there was an Inn On the Park in Toronto, and it is "Toronto Maple Leaf" colors but there are other Inn On the Park locations. It does not look like an official promo shirt despite the Geffen logo, and it doesn't have the album's title either.

 

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43 minutes ago, SteveAJones said:

"World's 1st Underwater Listening Party"...Outrider Album Release...June 16, 1988 

Anyone else have one of these? I've only seen two. Mine (mint, acquired 1992) and one on ebay (slight shoulder stain). What I really want to know is if this event really happened and where. Apparently there was an Inn On the Park in Toronto, and it is "Toronto Maple Leaf" colors but there are other Inn On the Park locations. It does not look like an official promo shirt despite the Geffen logo, and it doesn't have the album's title either.

 

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I have a press clipping of this event. It was in Houston, held by the Sound Warehouse:

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1 minute ago, sam_webmaster said:

Youtube algorithm is starting to block this. I'm seeing some copyright strikes on it. Was it the radio spots?

Yes. Nothing earth shattering, but perhaps something many hadn't heard before.

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3 hours ago, kingzoso said:

In what Led Zeppelin song does Robert sings the word "Shambles"?

The Rover I believe....

From the shambles of the old

If we could just join hands....

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1 hour ago, rm2551 said:

The Rover I believe....

From the shambles of the old

If we could just join hands....

Yes, You are correct.  "From the Shambles of the Old".

My fifth fay Led Zeppelin song.

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1 hour ago, rm2551 said:

Cheers mate. :thumbsup:

They seem to be radio spots for various cities across upstate New York, probably produced by Concerts West, the event promoter. It was cancelled about a week prior.

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53 minutes ago, SteveAJones said:

They seem to be radio spots for various cities across upstate New York, probably produced by Concerts West, the event promoter. It was cancelled about a week prior.

Those spots really convey the sense of anticipation of the chance to see an absolutely legendary group. Puts you in that time so to speak.

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August 10, 1967 Magistrates Court in Wednesbury, England

Robert Plant and friends advocate legalization of marijuana during his appearance for careless driving…charge was dropped on account of insufficient evidence.

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