Rorer714 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Roxie to the rescue! Game over,mystery solved. Good post Roxie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice75 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I'm sorry to derail the mysteries thread and, while I don't have time to quote all of the posts about Pamela that were made here right now (I'm in the middle of cooking dinner), I just wanted to say that Pamela is a charming woman. She is also self-assured and charismatic. One of my friends met her and spent some time with her when Pamela was in Austin last month. I asked my friend about her and she told me that Pamela is still charming and self-assured and charismatic but my friend also described her as "wonderful" and "intelligent" and "caring" and "very spiritual". I don't know whether or when Jimmy might have called her a "bimbo" but no one I know who has ever spent time with Pamela and gotten to know her has described her as that. If Pamela was really attractive and important for Jimmy,I think that they are still good friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxie Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Roxie to the rescue! Game over,mystery solved. Good post Roxie Thanks.. lol I was reading this thread at work today and knew where the quote came from, but had to wait get home to find the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glicine Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 If Pamela was really attractive and important for Jimmy,I think that they are still good friends. Strange it may seems, but I think she and Michael des Barres are still friends with Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice75 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 The "bimbo" comment was referred to by Pamela in her 2nd book "Take Another Little Piece Of My Heart". She was doing a radio interview at the time in Miami promoting "I'm With The Band" and Jimmy was in town with The Firm at the same time. The DJ asked her "So what do you think about Jimmy Page calling you a bimbo?" The DJ played her an interview he done with Jimmy a few hours earlier. The DJ asked him what he thought of her book and his reply was, "Oh I've met alot of bimbos out there. You know how girls like to exaggerate". Thank you Roxie!! I could understand Jimmy's evaluation about groupies again. Though it was already written in the first Zeppelin official bio written by Richie Yorke in 1976. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxie Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Strange it may seems, but I think she and Michael des Barres are still friends with Robert. She mentions staying in contact with Robert throughout all her books right up until the most recent published a couple of years ago. Her and Michael were at the Plant/Krauss shows in L.A this summer that someone on the forum mentioned seeing them at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 The "bimbo" comment was referred to by Pamela in her 2nd book "Take Another Little Piece Of My Heart". She was doing a radio interview at the time in Miami promoting "I'm With The Band" and Jimmy was in town with The Firm at the same time. The DJ asked her "So what do you think about Jimmy Page calling you a bimbo?" The DJ played her an interview he had done with Jimmy a few hours earlier. The DJ asked him what he thought of her book and his reply was, "Oh I've met alot of bimbos out there. You know how girls like to exaggerate". Thank you for the explanation, Roxie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 If Pamela was really attractive and important for Jimmy,I think that they are still good friends. I think Pamela is still friends with Robert but not Jimmy. In her book, "Take Another Little Piece of My Heart" she writes: " A few months earlier, Jimmy had attempted to snub me at the Atlantic Records reunion bash, where Zeppelin played together for the first time in many years. With John Bonham's son Jason playing drums, JPJ in top form, and Robert wailing with memories of a ripe, rip-roaring time, long, long gone, it had been a magical night. Backstage hanging with Robert, I greeted Jimmy warmly, and when he kept walking, I called his name so loud that everyone turned around. "Jimmy Page!!" He stopped dead in his tracks, slowly turned to face me, and said, "Why Pamela, dear. How are you?" But his eyes weren't kind, and it was clear he didn't care how I was. I had heard it through the grapeslime that Jimmy had been angry about the way he was portrayed in my book. I guess I didn't kiss his skinny ass quite hard enough." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 She mentions staying in contact with Robert throughout all her books right up until the most recent published a couple of years ago. Her and Michael were at the Plant/Krauss shows in L.A this summer that someone on the forum mentioned seeing them at. They're still close friends. Robert spent two days with Pamela while on tour in Seattle back in 2005. Their paths have crossed many time thru the years. I corresponded with Miss Pamela a few years ago and acquired some items for my archive. I found her to be a very kind woman. Roxie - Jimmy never actually played Miami with The Firm, but he did give a couple of radio interviews while touring Florida with them in March 1986. Is the name of the radio host provided? I'm wondering if it's something he said on nationally syndicated 'Rockline' or to Ron Diaz of 'Power Cuts' which aired only on WYNF 96 FM in Tampa. It sounds as if it could possibly be an interview I'm unaware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widget Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Thanks Roxie. I take it the exaggeration was on the pills comment? Her biography doesn't say anything nastier than that other than what Alice has stated. This was from her second book: "God he drives me nuts, I can't f*ck him enough" Interestingly Pamela also dated Michael Winner, director of Death Wish II and had previously met Bobbie Beausoliel in the 1960s, before marrying Michael Des Barres in 1977. Meg The "bimbo" comment was referred to by Pamela in her 2nd book "Take Another Little Piece Of My Heart". She was doing a radio interview at the time in Miami promoting "I'm With The Band" and Jimmy was in town with The Firm at the same time. The DJ asked her "So what do you think about Jimmy Page calling you a bimbo?" The DJ played her an interview he had done with Jimmy a few hours earlier. The DJ asked him what he thought of her book and his reply was, "Oh I've met alot of bimbos out there. You know how girls like to exaggerate". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 It's a mystery to me why a woman would want to be with someone who disrespects her so much, when she can easily choose someone better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 My best guess was and still is: Page and Grant were in California, probably San Francisco, maybe even Oakland, dealing with the fact that members and employees of the band had been arrested that very day, and relations with one of the biggest concert promoters in the United States, in one of the biggest concert markets in the United States, were not looking so good all of a sudden. John Paul Jones and family seem to have been on a camping trip to Yosemite, which apparently lasted all of 29 minutes, given the 10 hour drive there and back again and the aproximately four hour flight to New Orleans... Plant and Bonzo and others took the Chariot to New Orleans after Bonzo was released by the police... kudos for sheer fucking chutzpah to them all. They were booked into the San Francisco Hilton for the duration of their stay in the Bay Area. If JPJ went to Yosemite may well have been during the scheduled break between the San Francisco and New Orleans shows (July 25th-29th '77), and thus accounting for where he was in the aftermath of the tragedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxie Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Roxie - Jimmy never actually played Miami with The Firm, but he did give a couple of radio interviews while touring Florida with them in March 1986. Is the name of the radio host provided? I'm wondering if it's something he said on nationally syndicated 'Rockline' or to Ron Diaz of 'Power Cuts' which aired only on WYNF 96 FM in Tampa. It sounds as if it could possibly be an interview I'm unaware of. She doesn't mention the name of the DJ. Just refers to him as Mr. DJ. She does say that off air the DJ said to Jimmy how Pamela was in town as well. Jimmy says "You say Pamela is in town today? I wouldn't mind if you brought good ol' Miss P down to The Firm show tonight". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice75 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I think Pamela is still friends with Robert but not Jimmy. In her book, "Take Another Little Piece of My Heart" she writes: " A few months earlier, Jimmy had attempted to snub me at the Atlantic Records reunion bash, where Zeppelin played together for the first time in many years. With John Bonham's son Jason playing drums, JPJ in top form, and Robert wailing with memories of a ripe, rip-roaring time, long, long gone, it had been a magical night. Backstage hanging with Robert, I greeted Jimmy warmly, and when he kept walking, I called his name so loud that everyone turned around. "Jimmy Page!!" He stopped dead in his tracks, slowly turned to face me, and said, "Why Pamela, dear. How are you?" But his eyes weren't kind, and it was clear he didn't care how I was. I had heard it through the grapeslime that Jimmy had been angry about the way he was portrayed in my book. I guess I didn't kiss his skinny ass quite hard enough." Thank you for your info,lynn. Jimmy never loved Pamela. Nevertheless,she behaved(in her books) as if she knew Jimmy most. Jimmy might not have been able to endure it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) Jimmy might not have been able to endure it. Perhaps it was mutual. I think Pamela is still friends with Robert but not Jimmy. In her book, "Take Another Little Piece of My Heart" she writes: " A few months earlier, Jimmy had attempted to snub me at the Atlantic Records reunion bash, where Zeppelin played together for the first time in many years. With John Bonham's son Jason playing drums, JPJ in top form, and Robert wailing with memories of a ripe, rip-roaring time, long, long gone, it had been a magical night. Backstage hanging with Robert, I greeted Jimmy warmly, and when he kept walking, I called his name so loud that everyone turned around. "Jimmy Page!!" He stopped dead in his tracks, slowly turned to face me, and said, "Why Pamela, dear. How are you?" But his eyes weren't kind, and it was clear he didn't care how I was. Thank you for the clarification. I guess that solves the mystery. Edited November 21, 2008 by eternal light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice75 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Perhaps it was mutual. I see. The women who don't speak anything look wise to me. Jane Asher,Charlotte.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I see. The women who don't speak anything look wise to me. Jane Asher,Charlotte.... Women who suffer in silence fail to impress me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 Jimmy never loved Pamela. Jimmy might not have been able to endure it. No, he just ditched Miss Pamela for Lori. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 No, he just ditched Miss Pamela for Lori. Another mystery solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 She doesn't mention the name of the DJ. Just refers to him as Mr. DJ. She does say that off air the DJ said to Jimmy how Pamela was in town as well. Jimmy says "You say Pamela is in town today? I wouldn't mind if you brought good ol' Miss P down to The Firm show tonight". It must be a radio interview recorded on 3/15/86. The Firm played the Sportatorium in Hollywood, FL that night, only 27 kilometers (17 miles) from Miami. I'd like to acquire a copy if I can find one. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorer714 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Another mystery solved. Wow,lots of mysteries are going down tonight! Lovin' all this collaboration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxie Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 It must be a radio interview recorded on 3/15/86. The Firm played the Sportatorium in Hollywood, FL that night, only 27 kilometers (17 miles) from Miami. I'd like to acquire a copy if I can find one. Thanks! Ahh ok, so not Miami - but close to. FWIW she declined and hung out with Don Johnson instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice75 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) Women who suffer in silence fail to impress me. It's just your opinion. I'm sure Jimmy loves classy woman in reality. Classy woman has a high pride and dignity. She thinks making her past loves public to be ribaldry. Of course it's my opinion!(lol) Edited November 21, 2008 by Alice75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widget Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Another mystery solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 Ahh ok, so not Miami - but close to. FWIW she declined and hung out with Don Johnson instead. Well, I imagine most most American women would have made the same choice in 1986: http://www.miami-vice.org/forum/default.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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