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I'm a member of the Who's website, and Pete had a very interesting post that I thought was worth sharing:

Pete's Blog

4th March, 2008

MESSAGE TO THE OUTSIDE WORLD

I've been asked by our webmaster to communicate with the outside world. Or is this the inside world? It is a beautiful day here in West London, completely clear skies, but cold. Spring is definitely making an entry. Flora, goddess of all that stuff, also has a role in fertility. A kind of ancient Greek Scarlett Johannson. So, you guys feeling fertile? Are you mulching down the compost for the growing season? Well I am. The studio garden here has just been hit by a digger, and the Oceanic building - that for over 30 years has been the location for my spiritual rallying cries, my best and worst drug jags, my wildest acoustic experiments and my most serious recording work - is crawling with developers. It is for sale. It is going, going going.....

My studio is by the river Thames, in a pretty spot, though it is not itself a pretty building. I will miss the spot, but not the building.

I am hunkered down in my smallish home studio instead. That is both true and false. I have let go of the six creative spaces at Oceanic, but I do still have this wonderful studio in my home. What is true is that I have a home studio. What is false is that the word 'studio' suggests a single room. In fact I have a number of rooms devoted to music and recording in my house. One of them is a room that in 1972 was transformed by the then owner Ronnie Wood into a conventional analogue 8 track studio, with the help of a company called Trackplan that I started in 1970 to encourage musicians to have their own studios. I think Trackplan collapsed about halfway through the building project, which was overseen by Ron Nevison who went on to engineer Quadrophenia with me and later became a big producer (Heart, Jefferson Starship). Des McAnuff (who directed Tommy on Broadway and is visiting London to mount Jersey Boys here) came to my house for the first time last week and when he saw my studio said that he could understand why I would never want to leave.

I never want to leave. But I am trying hard to force myself. I have requested that our manager Bill Curbishley look at a winter Pacific tour, and prior to that we are considering some webcast ideas and a TV thing for VH1. I think most of you will know about some of this, at least as plans. Our recording schedule has been pushed back to the middle of September, or later. For once this has nothing to do with my songwriting output, as we are not recording my songs, nor am I producing the record. Now you skeptics (we Brits say sceptic by the way, which is close to septic, isn't it?) can see what happens when The Who are completely freed from the evil clutches of Pete Townshend, jealous guardian of the ...... I am trying to think of what I jealousy guard and it turns out I jealousy guard my craft. Good idea I think.

As for The Who, great idea. We now sell peanuts, t-shirts, video games, funny old songs from the funny old days when men were mods and women were mostly very thin, and - a new venture - we help market VW commercial vehicles. VW have just made a car that produces under 100 g/km carbon emissions, and will do 70 mpg. In London such a car does not get spat on by hippies, nor are its windows smashed by hypocrites with inefficient home heating. However, absurdly, it also doesn't get a reasonable tax break, neither is it released from London's congestion charge. The latter is because it is not a 'hybrid', that is a car that might produce far more carbon, and use far more fuel, but is driven by some Hollywood film star (but only in Rodeo Drive - when they go skiing they take the Hummer). Maybe Ken Livingstone (London's Mayor) wants to meet Brad Pitt? Don't we all? We want to ask him - why? You had the girl who invented the JENNIFER for heaven's sake! (That is, the hairstyle that kind of flicks up and out and in and is short at the front and long at the back or something). Now you have the girl who invented the MY DAD IS AN ARSEHOLE. To be honest, really honest Brad - I think you did good TWICE. And, in my view, you deserve it if only for your work taking drugs so brilliantly in True Romance. (Now men, stand by me here - yes Scarlett is good looking, but too young. Is it not true that the best two women who ever wafted through Hollywood have the same second name? And are sisters? One of them was in True Romance, the other was in that thing with Maddie! And you're right, I've forgotten their names........... it's great being 60-something. You just forget - and fuck it. Arq!)

So there it is. The thoughts of the alternative Pete as requested. Please don't ask again. To borrow from Billy Corgan's book, what is really going on in my head would burn through your eyes and soul and leave you speechless with fear, rage, ire, disgust and helplessness...... etc. Really, I just had a dark night of the soul on Saturday - nightmares probably caused by the fact that my partner watches QUILLS all the time. She's a Goth. Billy Corgan - another Goth - reminded me the other day that he had been dating Courtney Love when she first met Kurt Cobain). I hear Courtney has been looking at property in my neighbourhood. Courtney, this is where you truly belong. This is where we would understand and welcome you. Truly, we know how to shock, we know how to rock, and we know how to tock-tick-tock grow old disgracefully.

Or you could try Essex. I did.

Speaking of the amazing Rachel, she is writing songs for her new musical about burning bodies, and she is getting better and better, at IT. It's going to make Jersey Boys look like a Boy Scout's Jamboree (in fact, surely that is what it was?). It's going to make Tommy look like a Boy Scout's Jamboree - as well. See, I've run out of metaphors. All my creative juice that could have gone into writing the next great Who hit has gone into trying to make you insiders of the outside world feel your $50 was worth spending here rather than on twelve cups of Starbucks Frappoholica (plus a Macca CD).

Edited by GetTheLedOut

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Thanks for the post. As a member, do you think the website is worth the money? The double CD offer that they include with membership is nice, but I have it all already on assorted boots. I've been hedging about joining...............do you think it's worth it?

I did mean Psycho Derelict music only by the way lol.

Thanks again.

Regards;

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Does one have to pay to read his diary now? A year ago it was not so. But I stopped reading it once the site changed and all that.

I loved In The Attic.

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Thanks for the post. As a member, do you think the website is worth the money? The double CD offer that they include with membership is nice, but I have it all already on assorted boots. I've been hedging about joining...............do you think it's worth it?

I did mean Psycho Derelict music only by the way lol.

Thanks again.

Regards;

There are some nice perks with the site, but as of yet I haven't gotten my return on the $50 dollars. The CD is nothing new, as I also had most of it on bootleg, and while the forum is very good and active, it's over censored by the moderator and frankly I don't think that should cost money to go on. I'm about 40/60 in favor of not renewing my subscription when it comes up.

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Does one have to pay to read his diary now? A year ago it was not so. But I stopped reading it once the site changed and all that.

I loved In The Attic.

He posted more regularly before and it was for free, but part of the reason is due to the fact he's writing the songs for the next who album.

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Aaaaah. I particularily liked when he was posting that story. My god, that was ages ago.

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Oooh, also...

I KNEW I FORGOT SOMETHING ON MARCH 1ST!!

Everytime I wrote the date down at work, I couldnt help but think I had forgotten something aboot that day...

So happy belated, Tommy ! :P

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Oooh, also...

I KNEW I FORGOT SOMETHING ON MARCH 1ST!!

Everytime I wrote the date down at work, I couldnt help but think I had forgotten something aboot that day...

So happy belated, Tommy ! :P

Tommy wasn't released until May 23, 1969.

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The Who are one of my favorite bands. I first saw them on Shindig in '65. I used to have to special order their records to get them. I would tell the lady at the record store the name of the band and she would say "The who?". Then my sister would start laughing. When I ordered "Anyway, Anyhow , Anywhere" it took that lady a while to get the title in the right order.

I saw The Who in 1967, opening for Hermans Hermits.

The set list was.

Subsitute

Pictures Of Lily

Summertime Blues

Barbara Ann

A Quick one

Boris The Spider

Happy Jack

I'm A Boy

MY Generation

Just nine songs but a great show for just $3.50.

How the times have changed. I paid over 17 times that amount to see them last year, and while it was a great show, they didn't play substitute... :(

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Tommy wasn't released until May 23, 1969.

... Yeah, but when I said Tommy, I meant Roger, who played Tommy in the movie :D

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There are some nice perks with the site, but as of yet I haven't gotten my return on the $50 dollars. The CD is nothing new, as I also had most of it on bootleg, and while the forum is very good and active, it's over censored by the moderator and frankly I don't think that should cost money to go on. I'm about 40/60 in favor of not renewing my subscription when it comes up.

Thanks. I don't care for moderated web boards, so I think I'll pass for the moment. If they ever post vintage video or stream music, then that might persuade me.

Thanks again.

Regards;

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"Substitute" seems to have been either the first or second song, (along with "I Can't Explain") in their concerts for years. I guess they changed the act.

They've opened with I Can't Explain and followed it up with The Seeker and Anyway Anyhow Anywhere for some time now.

Edited by GetTheLedOut

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Thanks. I don't care for moderated web boards, so I think I'll pass for the moment. If they ever post vintage video or stream music, then that might persuade me.

Thanks again.

Regards;

They do post music/videos, although that just started recently. They've been posting videos of a charity gig Pete and Roger did which is very good. Not $50 good though.

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Gee, scanning stuff can be a bit tricky. Anyway this should be a better glimpse of my Who tix. There was a lot of demand for the 1976 show. You had to mail a SASE containing a money order to a P.O. Box in NYC. Some people mailed theirs directly across the street from the post office. Sure enough, my envelope came a day or two later - UNOPENED. I repacked it and mailed it in a second time. My thought was that they were just trying to clear out the post office from the deluge of requests. Not a great seat but I made it. The original show was cancelled due to Keith Moon issues. The actual show was I think the next day. It's on the Who's official site (or somewhere else).

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A bit off topic but the Grateful Dead used to allow Deadheads to buy tickets ahead of time but you had to follow their instructions to the t or you wouldn't recieve your tix. If one thing was off, no tix. Well, we sent our money in but my now ex-sister-in-law wrote the check for a few cents too much. You guessed it, no tix.

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A bit off topic but the Grateful Dead used to allow Deadheads to buy tickets ahead of time but you had to follow their instructions to the t or you wouldn't recieve your tix. If one thing was off, no tix. Well, we sent our money in but my now ex-sister-in-law wrote the check for a few cents too much. You guessed it, no tix.

Is that why she's an ex-sister-in-law?

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The Who 89 Still good but missing Kieth Moon which makes a huge difference in thier show.Rest in peace Kieth and John

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i saw the who last year whilst on tour. phenomenal performance.

the atmosphere was incredible. and all the fans were pretty wild.

i saw them whilst at knowsley music festival, brilliant experience.

my dad was working on the alcohol there, because he's employed with a brewery fitting company, which basically fit beer pumps etc. and they sometimes get invited to perform duties at particular concerts. it's fun to an extent but i prefer to come along and enjoy the temporary posession of an all access pass. i helped out with security for the majority of the day.

some random anonymous dude came up to me, who was drunk at the time. requesting for me to try and sell his bands CD to the who. his exact request was for me to give the CD to their limo driver. it was absolutely hilarious. i was laughing hysterically.

but as always, the shitty weather has to ruin a concert. even though it seemed to get the crowd pumped and going a fair bit more. which was fun to watch.

typical british weather though.

on a side note, i also managed to take numerous snapshots right in-front of the stage. i was literally an estimated meter or so away from roger and pete.

Edited by haze

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Update on the Who's official site:

While I still believe that the site isn't worth $50 dollars yet, it just got closer to being worth the money. In addition to the other things already mentioned that the site offers, subscribers get an additional t-shirt, and it's a good looking one at that!

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i saw the who last year whilst on tour. phenomenal performance.

the atmosphere was incredible. and all the fans were pretty wild.

i saw them whilst at knowsley music festival, brilliant experience.

my dad was working on the alcohol there, because he's employed with a brewery fitting company, which basically fit beer pumps etc. and they sometimes get invited to perform duties at particular concerts. it's fun to an extent but i prefer to come along and enjoy the temporary posession of an all access pass. i helped out with security for the majority of the day.

some random anonymous dude came up to me, who was drunk at the time. requesting for me to try and sell his bands CD to the who. his exact request was for me to give the CD to their limo driver. it was absolutely hilarious. i was laughing hysterically.

but as always, the shitty weather has to ruin a concert. even though it seemed to get the crowd pumped and going a fair bit more. which was fun to watch.

typical british weather though.

on a side note, i also managed to take numerous snapshots right in-front of the stage. i was literally an estimated meter or so away from roger and pete.

Who replaced Entwistle?????

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Who replaced Entwistle?????

I don't think there were any replacements. the line-up as i remember was just roger, pete and zak starkey on the drums.

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I don't think there were any replacements. the line-up as i remember was just roger, pete and zak starkey on the drums.

They must have had a bass player?? No?

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