metalhead16 Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 i watched the whole concert from the 02 and i came to the conclustion that plant can still hit the high notes like he used to in the 70's . but he rarely shows it. he showed it on kashmir . in the middle part... at the 02. and sibly as well . but thats about it. and a whole lotta love to . but when he played with the strange sensation he never sang high at all. . its weird cause . in some stuff today like in that rising sand cd he sound great but when u hear him live he sounds so different . i guess he picks his momments to sing high . hes only 59 . he can still sing . thats not old .. what do u people think about this topic??? Quote
lajoie Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 I think Robert Plant is as spectacular as ever ! The so called texture that has been described in his voice ,is truely the multipule layers of his soul,a man of great depth & complexity.Shining in all his sparkling glory as he always has shared with such a wealth of love & generousity ! Thank you Robert ,you are so very loved and well recieved! Please continue to be welcomed so joyusly by all Your adoring Led Zeppelin fans! We all want more of you! Can`t say or get enougph, More shows ,Thanks! Quote
Evster2012 Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 With the exception of the period following his throat surgery for polyps in 1974, Robert has always retained his range. He's just conservative with it. The endless years of wailing took a toll and he learned that to keep it, you can't abuse it. That sensibility has served him well. Now he has not only the range, but a refinement and a soul that only a lifetime as an artist can infuse. He may have matured, but he can still get that knee to tremble when necessary. He can use those high notes as punctuation, as an emphasis. As a climax. The tool may spend more time in the belt, but it's not blunted. Okay, enough metaphoric blathering. Point has been made! Quote
metalhead16 Posted January 25, 2008 Author Posted January 25, 2008 ok ok ok i get it . but yeah ur wrong ..... he can hit the high notes . the highest ones from 1969 still . ive heard it . a video of him fro the page and plant era . one live clip of sibly he dings so damn high its scary. trust mes can hit the notes .its not soul its how to please the crwed and urself . page plays with soul .. haha Quote
ninelives Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 ok ok ok i get it . but yeah ur wrong ..... he can hit the high notes . the highest ones from 1969 still . ive heard it . a video of him fro the page and plant era . one live clip of sibly he dings so damn high its scary. trust mes can hit the notes .its not soul its how to please the crwed and urself . page plays with soul .. haha But Ev didn't say he couldn't hit those notes. He said he can and does but he's conservative about when he chooses to. By the way, well stated as always dear Ev Quote
Evster2012 Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 But Ev didn't say he couldn't hit those notes. He said he can and does but he's conservative about when he chooses to. By the way, well stated as always dear Ev Thanks 9! I think our metal friend is too quick to type and not reading carefully. As you know I have many dvds from the P&P tour. One need only witness the performance at Budokan to know Plant still has his mojo! Quote
metalhead16 Posted January 25, 2008 Author Posted January 25, 2008 same here . i watched the clips from 02 i was wrong hahaah hes got it still . Quote
ninelives Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 Thanks 9! I think our metal friend is too quick to type and not reading carefully. As you know I have many dvds from the P&P tour. One need only witness the performance at Budokan to know Plant still has his mojo! Absolutely I saw him a couple of times last summer and believe me, he has no trouble hitting those notes Quote
mordor_maiden Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 I think Robert Plant is as spectacular as ever ! The so called texture that has been described in his voice ,is truely the multipule layers of his soul,a man of great depth & complexity.Shining in all his sparkling glory as he always has shared with such a wealth of love & generousity ! Thank you Robert ,you are so very loved and well recieved! Please continue to be welcomed so joyusly by all Your adoring Led Zeppelin fans! We all want more of you! Can`t say or get enougph, More shows ,Thanks! That's beautiful.... Quote
metalhead16 Posted January 25, 2008 Author Posted January 25, 2008 hes by far the best singer ever. led zepp is gonna be in the game rock band .!!!!!! Quote
metalhead16 Posted January 25, 2008 Author Posted January 25, 2008 very random about the rock band thing i know . its somthing i wanted to bring up Quote
DBJ Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 I thought he stopped singing high in the 80's you know it kinda went out of fashion around that time with the whole "just say no" campaign. Quote
Evster2012 Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 I thought he stopped singing high in the 80's you know it kinda went out of fashion around that time with the whole "just say no" campaign. I assume you're just joking! I'm not referring to the high vocal style, but rather the vocal range that can be sourced for a given moment. I personally think too much emphasis is put on the high notes Robert can sing. I prefer the soulfullness of his voice. But when you hit that modulation at the end of Since I've Been Loving You for example, that high note sends it home, and when required, Robert can sure as hell send it home with shivers up your spine. Quote
Aquamarine Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 Why, with regard to Plant, does singing high = singing well, which seems to be the inference so often? Not yours, I hasten to add, lovely Ev. Quote
Evster2012 Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 ^^Thanks! I do try my best. I know some may accuse me (and have done) of hero worship, but it's not that! While the Zeps are indeed my musical heroes, I don't deny their faults. Nobody's perfect, and I don't put anyone falsely on a pedestal. But I will not tolerate outright lies. As long as I have a voice, I will correct those who don't know what they're talking about. I do my homework, and don't presume to speak on what I don't know. It pisses me off when people make uninformed, blanket statements as if they are unequivocal facts. I have the boots (over 200 of them, both pre-Zep and post), and I will not profess what is untrue. Quote
Gervox Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) ^^Thanks! I do try my best. I know some may accuse me (and have done) of hero worship, but it's not that! While the Zeps are indeed my musical heroes, I don't deny their faults. Nobody's perfect, and I don't put anyone falsely on a pedestal. But I will not tolerate outright lies. As long as I have a voice, I will correct those who don't know what they're talking about. I do my homework, and don't presume to speak on what I don't know. It pisses me off when people make uninformed, blanket statements as if they are unequivocal facts. I have the boots (over 200 of them, both pre-Zep and post), and I will not profess what is untrue. I actually wrote a very long-winded reply for this thread, before I read the above. You said it for me. I agree. Getting back to the original topic,Robert is now 59 years old.Nobody has any right to presume that he can still sing in the manner of 40 years ago, in the original key, and with the same belligerent enthusiasm!. One of the greatest revelations for me from the o2 concert was that Robert knew where to give the music it's appropriate power. something only a master musician could pull off.He seemed more comfortable in his own skin now,more so perhaps than he was at Knebworth in '79. His own music has grown and matured in recent years, mostly for the better!. I love the 20 year old Robert,but I love the 59 year old version just as much!. Edited January 25, 2008 by Gervox Quote
Evster2012 Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 Well said Gervox! Robert clearly had a far greater command of his pipes in the post-Grafitti era. It's a shame he was hitting a new stride when Jimmy was waning. Don't start on me folks, Jimmy may have had some of his greatest moments on Presence, but those who were around him during the tour will tell you his "mojo" wasn't "rising" so much. But anyway, I too find Plant a more compelling and moving singer now than Zen (I mean then, lol). Quote
Hammer of the Cods Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 With the exception of the period following his throat surgery for polyps in 1974, Robert has always retained his range. He's just conservative with it. The endless years of wailing took a toll and he learned that to keep it, you can't abuse it. That sensibility has served him well. Now he has not only the range, but a refinement and a soul that only a lifetime as an artist can infuse. He may have matured, but he can still get that knee to tremble when necessary. He can use those high notes as punctuation, as an emphasis. As a climax. The tool may spend more time in the belt, but it's not blunted. Okay, enough metaphoric blathering. Point has been made! I want you so bad right now. Quote
donald Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) Now please, let's get real. No matter how much some of you worship Robert Plant, anyone who's not completely deaf or unmusical will notice that Plant can NOT hit the high notes the way he did in the early 70s. He can hit some high notes here and there (very rarely), but not with the same power he had behind even the highest notes in the past. Listen to New York 70, Hampton 71, Japan 71, or even LA 72, and then listen to the O2 show. Plant is still a great singer, but why can't you admit the obvious, that he's lost part of his range? It's not his fault, but it's a fact. I would agree that his current range and power is much better than in 1975 though. Edited January 25, 2008 by donald Quote
MS1 Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 I think it depends on which high notes we're talking about. '75-'80? Yeah, he can hit those. '69-'73? Nope. He can't. And I own lots and lots of Page/Plant shows and attended four of them. But don't think of this as a criticism, it's rare to retain vocal range over the course of one's life. A real singer works with the changing qualities of their instrument, and I believe that Plant does that beautifully. And that's what it's all about- this isn't the high note Olympics. Quote
donald Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 I think the closest Plant ever got again to his early 70s range and power was in 1983, on his first solo tour. There are a few bootlegs out there of this tour and Plant's singing is unbelievably powerful. I have recordings of most later Plant solo tours and of the Page/Plant tours, but IMO, he never topped 83 again. Quote
tyedye Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) I think people make way too much out of Robert not 'being able to hit the high notes' in their opinion. I think Robert can sing any way he want's to sing and do it well. He can still sing and he has a beautiful voice. Edited January 25, 2008 by tyedye Quote
donald Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 He can still sing and he has a beautiful voice. Absolutely, I fully agree. Quote
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