Big Klu Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 I know I'm threadshitting at this point, but another board had this...totally cosmic timing: straight dope bbs The scene: a top recording studio in London in the early 80's. My buddy is getting one of his first big engineering assignments - Asia's second album. His job? Setting up and doing the engineering prep for the legendary Carl Palmer, drummer for ELP, Asia, etc. My friend showed up for work hours early and used all of that time tuning Carl's kit, placing mic's, checking all the effects associated with each mic - you name it. And since Carl has a kit the size of, well, a huge freakin' drum kit, my friend had to crawl underneath a few rack toms to get in and out, so this was a physical, hectic, stressful situation for our first-time engineer. But it was worth it because he was doing it for the legendary Carl Palmer. After all this, the Producer (my buddy's boss on the project) comes in, sees all the excruciating work my friend has done on this, his first job, and kind of snickers to himself, but at the time my buddy doesn't put 2 + 2 together. They both remain up in the control booth, finalizing settings for that day's recording. Later, the legendary Carl Palmer comes in, blithely gets behind the kit (not sure how he did it blithely, but my friend assures me he looked smooth), picks up the sticks and....proceeds to rip off a drum fill that sounds like a cat falling into a stack of cookware. My friend looks up at his Producer, who says something along the lines of "well, that pretty much shatters your fantasies, don'it?" Apparently it was common knowledge that Carl couldn't keep proper time and was all about the fills -- which couldn't sound great if you can't keep time!- nice time to tell my friend! Weeks later in the session, my buddy was playing the kit to check a mic set-up he had changed and Geoff Downes and Steve Howe both came in and tried offer my buddy the job playing drums since they found Palmer's timekeeping so bad. I doubt they were serious, but it was a way to get under the legendary Carl Palmer's skin - and there was so much infighting that they couldn't pass up the chance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imagescapegirl Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 (edited) I'm primarily a Keith Emerson fan ... which of course ends up including ELP and the Nice. I've actually got a young .... desperately in need of members .... especially members who will talk to one another .... forum, based around Keith, which ELP pages in need of talk ... You'll find me at Tarkus forum Please come and join and talk all things ELP ... I need talkative people!!!! I'm married to a prog rocking keyboard player ... so my listening tends to swing between my first love .... Jimmy Page (hence you find me on this board) and my second love Keith Emerson, who doesn't seem to have anything by way of forums, so I started one! Fave ELP album - I'd probably go Tarkus. Hope to see some of you at Tarkus ... Edited May 21, 2008 by Imagescapegirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnroxx Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 "I know I'm threadshitting at this point, but another board had this...totally cosmic timing: straight dope bbs QUOTE (WordMan) The scene: a top recording studio in London in the early 80's. My buddy is getting one of his first big engineering assignments - Asia's second album. His job? Setting up and doing the engineering prep for the legendary Carl Palmer, drummer for ELP, Asia, etc. My friend showed up for work hours early and used all of that time tuning Carl's kit, placing mic's, checking all the effects associated with each mic - you name it. And since Carl has a kit the size of, well, a huge freakin' drum kit, my friend had to crawl underneath a few rack toms to get in and out, so this was a physical, hectic, stressful situation for our first-time engineer. But it was worth it because he was doing it for the legendary Carl Palmer. After all this, the Producer (my buddy's boss on the project) comes in, sees all the excruciating work my friend has done on this, his first job, and kind of snickers to himself, but at the time my buddy doesn't put 2 + 2 together. They both remain up in the control booth, finalizing settings for that day's recording. Later, the legendary Carl Palmer comes in, blithely gets behind the kit (not sure how he did it blithely, but my friend assures me he looked smooth), picks up the sticks and....proceeds to rip off a drum fill that sounds like a cat falling into a stack of cookware. My friend looks up at his Producer, who says something along the lines of "well, that pretty much shatters your fantasies, don'it?" Apparently it was common knowledge that Carl couldn't keep proper time and was all about the fills -- which couldn't sound great if you can't keep time!- nice time to tell my friend! Weeks later in the session, my buddy was playing the kit to check a mic set-up he had changed and Geoff Downes and Steve Howe both came in and tried offer my buddy the job playing drums since they found Palmer's timekeeping so bad. I doubt they were serious, but it was a way to get under the legendary Carl Palmer's skin - and there was so much infighting that they couldn't pass up the chance..." Sorry...having seen Palmer numerous times over the years, I'm calling absolute bullsh!t on this fairy tale, lol. ;^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainsbarre Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I haven't gotten into ELP yet, however I loved The Nice, which as most of you would know was Keith's first band, before ELP. There were some great tracks from The Nice, Dawn being one of my particular favourites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Masson Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Growing up I heard mostly classical music in my parents' house. I liked it, and when I got into rock music at the age of 10, I was still often listening to classical music. I've never seen a reason to stop doing that, and still love both classical music and different varieties of popular music. So I guess prog was an obvious thing for me to get into, and I did, very early. Gabriel and early Collins-era Genesis was and remains my fave prog band, with Gentle Giant not too far behind. Focus was another band I used to like a lot, but when I listen to them now their legacy seems not as fertile as I used to think. As for ELP, I used to listen to them quite a bit as a kid, until I was about 17 or 18. Never got all their albums, but did have Tarkus, Pictures at an Exhibition, Brain Salad Surgery, Welcome Back My Friends, Works I and Works II. Eventually I thought it was just too much pomp, meaning that given how immensely talented players they all were (and are), I thought by comparison their music lacked a more genuine sense of purpose, and their mode of expression just seemed too focused on sheer technicality of playing. That more or less is how I still see them. To me Brain Salad Surgery is their finest moment. I think Mussorgsky's piece just sounds better when played by an orchestra, or on two pianos. But the cover of Ginastera's Toccata was a much better idea, and it still sounds great. They included a good live version of that on Welcome Back My Friends, too. Emerson's virtuosity just comes into its own there - everything falls into place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleNecker Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I decided to brave it and try out ELP's comeback album "Black Moon" and I was very surprised. I enjoyed it very much and while it wasn't as great as their past works, it was still good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucyinthesky Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Hey! Don't be afraid, ELP will survive their generation! I'm 15 and I know other students who are fans! I used to dance in the living room when I heard pirates together with my dad when I was really small... I admire Emerson. he is a genius and he made the keyboard an erotic instrument for me. To see them perform on my DvD is magic. No one mentioned Karn Evil 9 yet. This one is good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leddy Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Does anyone know where I can get a trnscription of Fanfare for the common man keyboard part as would like to transcribe it for guitar, or at least attempt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Trilogy was a great and underated album by them. Underrated? You sure? I love Trilogy. It's my second favorite ELP album after Brain Salad Surgery (can't get enough of Karn Evil 9). I never heard that Trilogy was underrated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef free Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Brain Salad Surgery is an all time classic rock album and should be heard by all rock fans, it's the peak of ELP's career. Too bad the band was so anti-bootlegging, there's prescious little live stuff available from their finest years (72-74). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleNecker Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Trilogy isn't underrated, Love Beach is! But seriously, I don't think Trilogy is underrated at all. If anything, I think Black Moon is, same goes for Works 1. Works 2 is kinda forgettable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alien Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 if you can get 'Live In Poland'-cd or the Montreux 97 DVD , get them : excellent stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Emerson Lake And Palmer will headline the High Voltage Festival, the UK’s new flagship classic rock event, on Sunday, July 25, 2010. The launch of the High Voltage Festival was announced by Classic Rock’s Editor In Chief, Scott Rowley, at the Classic Rock Roll Of Honour at London’s Park Lane Hotel this past Monday (November 2). The High Voltage Festival is a joint venture between Classic Rock magazine and The Mean Fiddler organisation. Forty years after ELP opened the legendary Isle Of Wight Festival, what better band to celebrate what will surely become Britain’s biggest and best ‘adult rock’ festival? According to ELP, fans can expect “cannons, pyrotechnics and a supreme production alongside the stunning musicianship and songs that made ELP the legends they truly are”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Back in the day . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfvr Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I was really into ELP as a teenager and had Brain Salad Surgury on 8 track. Got to see them at CAL Jam 1 in 1974. They were the last act of the day and I was shocked and amazed when Emerson and his piano elevated and started twirling around on stage. Hearing Karn Evil 9 brings back those happy memories for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef free Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 https://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/285857/jumanji-producers-adapting-elps-karn-evil-9-into-sci-fi-film Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 8/26/2008 at 10:00 AM, chef free said: Brain Salad Surgery is an all time classic rock album and should be heard by all rock fans, it's the peak of ELP's career. Too bad the band was so anti-bootlegging, there's prescious little live stuff available from their finest years (72-74). I admit as much as I love Prog I'd more or less written ELP as a bunch of self indulgent instrumental wankery for decades until I decided to do the work on Freezer's March 1 1974 Baton Rouge recording (cleaning up the sound, patching together two different versions of his recording to get the complete show- I put it up at Trader's Den as part of my "Freezer Flood" there in June) and actually listened to the thing. Those three lunatics could fuckin' play, that's for sure, probably overplay, even, with good and bad results. "Tarkus" is a fucking brilliant piece, probably my favourite of theirs. All respect to the departed Greg Lake, though, I have no use for his wide eyed balladeering...Keith Emerson, though, was a stoned goddamn genius. Palmer comes across like a less precise Neil Peart sometimes. I like 'em, just keep 'em off of Love Beach...😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 https://blabbermouth.net/news/emerson-lake-palmer-to-reunite-using-modern-technology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) How Carl Palmer Is Honoring His Late ELP Bandmates On New Tour - https://ultimateclassicrock.com/carl-palmer-elp-tour/ Edited October 28, 2022 by luvlz2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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