kidmoon Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Where would civilization be without the zero? Specifically, where would Western civilization be without the zero? Those Eastern cats emerged from the forests of numerical confusion well before Western cultural circles. But I wonder: Do we still need the zero? It's a fact that the zero cannot be divided by itself; moreover, any positive integer cannot be divided by zero. Certainly, positive integers--and one might even argue negative integers--have more stake in our counting system than does the zero. There was a reason the zero did not immediately 'pop in' to humanity's mathematical lexicon; should we revisit those reasons? Am I just being zero-discriminatory? *Bracing myself for the onslaught of abuse* Jokes aren't funny if you have to explain them. -- Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake of Shadows Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Am I just being zero-discriminatory? I saw zero discrimination in your post. Personally, I believe we need the zero, if for no other reason than to mess with our minds. Impersonally, I think we need them to fill those odd nooks and crannies of arithmetic. We can't have $1.09 mistaken for $1.9. OTOH, that might be how some of the folks in charge balance the budget... what's the difference between $1.09 billion and $1.9 billion? why, zero. There is zero difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanna be drummer Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Yes we need zero. Where would number start...1...-1 perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Am Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Yes we need zero. Where would number start...1...-1 perhaps? The concept of zero was first taught by the Hindu Rishis. We have India to thank. -0- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonzoEqualsGoodStuff Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 If it weren't for the zero, I don't know how us Niners fans would know how many games our team usually wins in a season. We'd just be ...-16 ??? What is that?! Actually, it makes me feel a little bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidmoon Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 I saw zero discrimination in your post. what's the difference between $1.09 billion and $1.9 billion? why, zero. There is zero difference. You just blew my mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spatdrastik Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 You are messed up on the concept that zero means nothing...it is a value. Learn a non decimal number system(binary, octal or hex) and you'll realize that yes zero is as important as any other number. And divide by zero? Doesn't take much sense to figure out why this isn't possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidmoon Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 If it weren't for the zero, I don't know how us Niners fans would know how many games our team usually wins in a season. We'd just be ...-16 ??? What is that?! Actually, it makes me feel a little bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake of Shadows Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 You are messed up on the concept that zero means nothing...it is a value. Learn a non decimal number system(binary, octal or hex) and you'll realize that yes zero is as important as any other number. And divide by zero? Doesn't take much sense to figure out why this isn't possible In fact, it takes..... zero sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidmoon Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 In fact, it takes..... zero sense. If my mind was already blown, what's happening to me now?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake of Shadows Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 If my mind was already blown, what's happening to me now?! Well, it looks like you've turned a bit yellowish and one of your eyes is bigger than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidmoon Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 Well, it looks like you've turned a bit yellowish and one of your eyes is bigger than the other. That's not so bad... Is it? Now I can't be seen in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidmoon Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 Yes we need zero. Where would number start...1...-1 perhaps? We could start with YY, the rediscovered placeholder for the undesirable zero... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRB Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I thought we were Saved By Zero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzldoc Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 And where would the internet be without ones 1 and zeros 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidmoon Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 And where would the internet be without ones 1 and zeros 0 Clearly, if zeros didn't exist, we would have to pretend to have an unprecedented exchange of ideas and information. I don't see a problem with this. I mean, just last week I made an imaginary electronic transfer of $1,YYYYYY,YYYYYY from a sinking high-risk stock to my Swiss bank account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzldoc Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Clearly, if zeros didn't exist, we would have to pretend to have an unprecedented exchange of ideas and information. I don't see a problem with this. I mean, just last week I made an imaginary electronic transfer of $1,YYYYYY,YYYYYY from a sinking high-risk stock to my Swiss bank account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidmoon Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 You are messed up on the concept that zero means nothing...it is a value. Learn a non decimal number system(binary, octal or hex) and you'll realize that yes zero is as important as any other number. And divide by zero? Doesn't take much sense to figure out why this isn't possible Next time you go grocery shopping try to buy zero loaves of bread; or zero fishes. While you're at it, try turning water into wine. There's only one baby Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kissandra Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 You can however subtract zero as Billy Preston said: Nothing from nothing leaves nothing. Whoa, my mom was talking about that song tonight. I forget why, but I haven't heard that song in a while and neither has she. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidmoon Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 Whoa, my mom was talking about that song tonight. I forget why, but I haven't heard that song in a while and neither has she. "Whoa" is right. If you're trying to change the subject, then you must be in league with the zero. Your opinion is biased! We must stay focused and get to the bottom of the zero's necessity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kissandra Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 While zero itself has no value, it is used to represent value...so yes, we need the zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yahyoubetcha Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 While zero itself has no value, it is used to represent value...so yes, we need the zero I think you've zeroed in on the concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidmoon Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 I think you've zeroed in on the concept. I've spoken with the moderators about implementing a Pun Flood Control; they said that feature was already in place, and the next pun will crash the board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidmoon Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 While zero itself has no value, it is used to represent value...so yes, we need the zero But aren't we just pretending that something called the Zero exists; isn't it more plausible that the infinitely empty set YY exists? We might as well start warming up to the idea that the zero means nothing to us and the new symbol YY is our new love muffin . www.YY-do-you-choose-zero.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spatdrastik Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Next time you go grocery shopping try to buy zero loaves of bread; or zero fishes. While you're at it, try turning water into wine. There's only one baby Jesus. I think you quoted the wrong post dude and I buy zero of everything in the store except what I pay for and walk out with everytime I go shopping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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