boogie Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 for me, it's no question, the studio version of achilles last stand. he's in top form. any arguements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symphonictank Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 You'll get no argument here, although I would nominate most anything else from Presence as being runners-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypeO Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 agreed 100%. the syncopation on Presence is mind-boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tea41 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Definitely Achilles Last Stand, In My Time Of Dying, When The Levee Breaks, and Kashmir. Carouslembra is f'in bad ass too. In The Light, Sick Again, and Candy Store Rock ain't nothing to sneeze at either. Bonzo is super heavy on Darlene and Walter's Walk too. He sounds like a 700 pound ape hitting those drums on Walter's Walk as well as Wearing And Tearing. He really makes other drummers sound like mary f'in poppins. It so hard to pick just a few, there's also that smooth Fool In The Rain shuffle and then that killer hi-hat and kick drum action on South Bound Saurez. He's also CRAZY on the HTWWW versions of Black Dog and Since I've Been Loving You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zosodude13 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Achilles is really good... but thats not the best... easily, bonzo is at his best in In My Time of Dying... his most powerful performance by far... jimmy on that song might be another great performance... but bonzo owned that song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pb Derigable Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Well i think Poor Tom. It's the same beat, but each part sounds different from each other. even the bass drum sounds different between each triplet and they are all spaced different. and he does it for the whole song. unless it's a loop then my answer is The wanton song. Now thats tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur99 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Well i think Poor Tom. It's the same beat, but each part sounds different from each other. even the bass drum sounds different between each triplet and they are all spaced different. and he does it for the whole song. unless it's a loop then my answer is The wanton song. Now thats tight. agreed love the bass drum triplets at the begining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledsabbath Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 for me, it's no question, the studio version of achilles last stand. he's in top form. any arguements? Sorry to be the one around here to argue, but yeah, argue I shall. For sure, 'Achilles Last Stand' has powerful drumming. But the album that Bonham demonstrated the greatest skill in terms of both raw power and technical finesse, is the first album. Personally, the song that he does best that combines both power and finess is "Good Times Bad Times". I bet you didn't see that coming. The next best song, IMO is "How Many More Times". Have another listen to "Good Times Bad Times". What is particularly outstanding about this song is the way Bonham does this intricate double kick pattern. You don't hear another Zeppelin song that matches it. For sure, it has the raw, thunderous power as do many other Zeppelin songs, but no song has such a perfect balance and power and intricate skill. Listen to also the way the song starts, with Bonham starting off with a simple drum pattern with Jimmy's first chords, and as the chords are repeated, Bonham adds a classy little extra to his drum pattern with each chord repitition. It just oozes class and sophisitication. Nope, this is his best drumming song. Anyone care to argue? I bet heaps of you will. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirchzep27 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 ^Good point about the playing on the first album. They never recorded bonham like that on the rest of the records, rather didnt get that exact sound. It would be interesting to hear a song like -black dog with a crisper studio sound like that. I think john bonham was at this best on every song and tour actually. I've read that jimmy hears things today that he may have done different on record. The only thing with bonham that i can think of, is kashmir falling apart on the zurich 80 show, which is baffling. But bonham is such a key element to every song, sometimes i'm just listening to his playing and everything else is almost in the background. Achilles last stand and in my time of dying are stunning...but he is so great on misty mountain hop and fool in the rain too. His presence is so strong in all the songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonzoEqualsGoodStuff Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I think it's really hard for me to narrow down where he's "at his best" because he was generally so amazing... everywhere. I actually like the first album a ton for him, too, but I also love When the Levee Breaks, Achilles Last Stand, every other song he ever played on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Garbage Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 "In My Time Of Dying" does it for me.... I am also a big fan of Bonzo's playing on Zeppelin's first record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzfan715 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Babe I'm Gonna Leave you is good when he's in it. I think Poor Tom is really good too. It's just too hard to pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetTheLedOut Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I would have to go "Achilles Last Stand" as well as several of the early posters. It's an undeniably great performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Bonzo is at his best in the studio, and, in concert. It's that simple, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suz Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Yes, the bass drum in Good Times, I agree! And how bout funky stuff, like the Crunge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pentangleafternoon Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 bonzo's ear for improv is really amazing on those '72 immigrant songs, its likely either achilles last stand or IMTOD, moby dick and bonzo's montreux presumably need to be on the list somewhere as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huw Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 ...moby dick and bonzo's montreux presumably need to be on the list somewhere as well I was just about to say how pleased I was that no-one had said Moby Dick, because I don't think it shows Bonham at anything like his best! For my money Bonham (heck, any drummer) shows the best of what he can do inside the arrangement of a song - moving the music, controlling the tempo, colouring in behind the other musicians & entering into a dialogue with them. Drum solos miss out on that. (Having said that I would put Bonzo's Montreaux on the list, simply because it's a composition rather than a drum solo.) All the songs named in the thread so far have great drumming (especially GTBT) but I'll add Misty Mountain Hop, because the fills are wonderful, & The Ocean, because I love the way he flows in to the swing beat for the ride-out section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetTheLedOut Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I was just about to say how pleased I was that no-one had said Moby Dick, because I don't think it shows Bonham at anything like his best! For my money Bonham (heck, any drummer) shows the best of what he can do inside the arrangement of a song - moving the music, controlling the tempo, colouring in behind the other musicians & entering into a dialogue with them. Drum solos miss out on that. (Having said that I would put Bonzo's Montreaux on the list, simply because it's a composition rather than a drum solo.) All the songs named in the thread so far have great drumming (especially GTBT) but I'll add Misty Mountain Hop, because the fills are wonderful, & The Ocean, because I love the way he flows in to the swing beat for the ride-out section. Bonzo's Montreaux was a track that was put together digitally by Jimmy after Bonzo's death. I don't know how much of the track was done by Bonzo's original recording and how much was added, but because it isn't really him live I don't know if it counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepaholic Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 MidZep made a good call with Fool In The Rain...that is an incredibly good performance. If i HAD to choose, i would also go with Achilles as #1. Everything else would be 1(a). There is no #2 with that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIBLY Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 The answer my friends is - everything. I'm sure that we'd all nominate all the members of LZ as best ever on their particular field. Indeed, there was a poll some time ago to form the world's best super group and the members of LZ won in every category. But, I think it's easiest to prove with Bonzo - he really was peerless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huw Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Bonzo's Montreaux was a track that was put together digitally by Jimmy after Bonzo's death. I don't know how much of the track was done by Bonzo's original recording and how much was added, but because it isn't really him live I don't know if it counts. It was a track that they had worked on together that Jimmy finished after Bonzo died. It wasn't put together "digitally" (c'mon - it came out in 1982), they added the harmonizer on to normally recoreded drums to give the sound effects. As for whether it "counts" because it might not be "live" enough, well I guess we can't rate any of Jimmy's solos, because they were overdubed too. "Stairway to Heaven? Totally bogus - he's not playing all of that - he overdubs man!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazz Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 In My Time of Dying, no question..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanie_72 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Geez, this one is hard since he is so great on everything! I'd say In My Time of Dying, Achilies Last Stand, When the Levee Breaks, Kashmir and of course, Moby Dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bomber Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 No Questions,Moby Dick from Albert Hall on the DVD,how could it be anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suz Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 No Questions,Moby Dick from Albert Hall on the DVD,how could it be anything else? I just watched that recently. He turns into a blur! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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