Jahfin Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 At the time he got the badge he did not have a drug problem. That came later. That may well be so but I didn't say he had a drug problem at the time, I was alluding to the irony of him being assigned a DEA Agent badge and his cause of death. And never illegal drugs like other rock stars at the time. Unless you were living with Elvis at the time I doubt very seriously you have any knowledge of what drugs (illegal or otherwise) that he was doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIRST LEDZEP Posted March 17, 2008 Author Share Posted March 17, 2008 ELVIS ROCKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electrophile Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 At the time he got the badge he did not have a drug problem. That came later. And never illegal drugs like other rock stars at the time. Elvis had a drug problem long before he got that DEA badge. And just because he wasn't snorting coke or shooting up heroin, doesn't mean he wasn't using illegal drugs. You think he got all those prescription drugs from real doctors for real medical problems? He had some 5 or 6 in his system when he died.....someone who is taking drugs for legitimate reasons wouldn't combine that many unless they were told to do so by a real doctor, ie., they're on a drug regiment for a serious illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I can say for many more deserving artists than Mellencamp. Like Skynyrd for example, they were eligible years ago but it took them being nominated 9 times before they were ever inducted. I really don't see what Mellencamp has done to even be eligible for induction. He's definitely no Dylan in the songwriting department. That aside, the real travesty is the induction of Madonna. She has never recorded a note of rock n' roll music in her life. I cannot but totally agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 At the time he got the badge he did not have a drug problem. That came later. And never illegal drugs like other rock stars at the time. It's pretty common knowledge that Elvis starting using amphetimines (sp) during his tenure in the US Army. That was 1959. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 We all know what happened to that m*r*n on the left! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spats Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 It's pretty common knowledge that Elvis starting using amphetimines (sp) during his tenure in the US Army. That was 1959. But it wasn't a problem for him. There were other artists using way worse than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spats Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Elvis had a drug problem long before he got that DEA badge. And just because he wasn't snorting coke or shooting up heroin, doesn't mean he wasn't using illegal drugs. You think he got all those prescription drugs from real doctors for real medical problems? He had some 5 or 6 in his system when he died.....someone who is taking drugs for legitimate reasons wouldn't combine that many unless they were told to do so by a real doctor, ie., they're on a drug regiment for a serious illness. They were all real doctors. But because he was Elvis he could charm them into getting what he wanted and those doctors didn't know about the other doctors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spats Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 That may well be so but I didn't say he had a drug problem at the time, I was alluding to the irony of him being assigned a DEA Agent badge and his cause of death. Unless you were living with Elvis at the time I doubt very seriously you have any knowledge of what drugs (illegal or otherwise) that he was doing. People who were living with him have said he was not doing illegal drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattmc1973 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Not illegal, per se. It was a TON of prescription medication, that he was rather freely and loosely given by Dr. Nick and other doctors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spats Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) Not illegal, per se. It was a TON of prescription medication, that he was rather freely and loosely given by Dr. Nick and other doctors. Yes. And that wasn't happening until the last 3 or 4 years of his life. Edited March 18, 2008 by spats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Funny how no-one mentioned a certain Colonel Parker in all of Elvis's woes!! ......but isn't this the J. Cougar thread?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electrophile Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Yes. And that wasn't happening until the last 3 or 4 years of his life. Are you illiterate? HE WAS USING AMPHETIMINES IN 1959. And I'm pretty certain he didn't obtain them for legal reasons. And just because the "doctors" who gave him the pills had an MD after their names, doesn't mean they had legitimate reasons for prescribing them. That makes it illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spats Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Are you illiterate? HE WAS USING AMPHETIMINES IN 1959. And I'm pretty certain he didn't obtain them for legal reasons. And just because the "doctors" who gave him the pills had an MD after their names, doesn't mean they had legitimate reasons for prescribing them. That makes it illegal. He did obtain them legally. He was on manuevers in Germany and a lot of the soldiers were taking them to stay awake. Elvis had legitimate illness's that he needed medication for in his last years. He had colon problems, glaucoma at one point, an enlarged heart, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Try to revise history all you want, Elvis abused drugs. http://oldies.about.com/od/elvisdeathfaq/f/elvisdrugs.htm Question: What was Elvis Presley's relationship with drugs? Answer: Although many still point to Elvis Presley's prodigous eating habits and lack of exercise as motivating factors in his death, there is no doubt that drugs were the main factor. And although some suggest that Elvis had tried marijuana and cocaine on at least one occasion, he felt far more comfortable in the world of legal drugs -- medical prescriptions. Elvis had a love for what were then called "downers": barbituates, sleeping pills, painkillers, the combination of which will induce a sleepy, calm euphoria. In addition to the ten drugs found in his system at the time of death, Elvis was known to have tried Dilaudid, Percodan, Placidyl, Dexedrine (a rare "upper," then prescribed as a "diet pill"), Biphetamine, Tiunal, Desbutal, Escatrol, Amytal, Quaaludes, Carbrital, Seconal, Methadone, and Ritalin. Elvis' fondness for prescription drugs had begun back in the early Sixties (although at least one confidant claims Elvis began by stealing diet pills from Gladys, his mother). Facing a punishing work schedule set up by his manager, "Colonel" Tom Parker, Presley began to use "uppers" to get him going in the morning and "downers" to help him relax and sleep at night. By the early Seventies, Elvis had come to rely on these pills as necessary equipment for his hectic career, especially since Parker's schedule now had him working like a dog: an average of one show every other day from 1969 until June 1977 and a three-album-a-year schedule for RCA. In order to get these prescriptions, Elvis needed doctors, and there were many in Los Angeles, Vegas, Palm Springs, and Memphis who were happy to help the wealthy star out. When he visited a doctor (or dentist), Elvis would almost inevitably talk him into a prescription, usually for painkillers. Eventually, Elvis took to carrying around a copy of The Physician's Desk Reference -- an encyclopedia of legal drugs and their uses -- so that he knew just what to ask for and, when necessary, which symptoms to fake. Elvis actually had near-fatal overdoses at least twice in the Seventies and was admitted to hospitals for "exhaustion" -- that is, detoxification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spats Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Try to revise history all you want, Elvis abused drugs. http://oldies.about.com/od/elvisdeathfaq/f/elvisdrugs.htm Question: What was Elvis Presley's relationship with drugs? Answer: Although many still point to Elvis Presley's prodigous eating habits and lack of exercise as motivating factors in his death, there is no doubt that drugs were the main factor. And although some suggest that Elvis had tried marijuana and cocaine on at least one occasion, he felt far more comfortable in the world of legal drugs -- medical prescriptions. Elvis had a love for what were then called "downers": barbituates, sleeping pills, painkillers, the combination of which will induce a sleepy, calm euphoria. In addition to the ten drugs found in his system at the time of death, Elvis was known to have tried Dilaudid, Percodan, Placidyl, Dexedrine (a rare "upper," then prescribed as a "diet pill"), Biphetamine, Tiunal, Desbutal, Escatrol, Amytal, Quaaludes, Carbrital, Seconal, Methadone, and Ritalin. Elvis' fondness for prescription drugs had begun back in the early Sixties (although at least one confidant claims Elvis began by stealing diet pills from Gladys, his mother). Facing a punishing work schedule set up by his manager, "Colonel" Tom Parker, Presley began to use "uppers" to get him going in the morning and "downers" to help him relax and sleep at night. By the early Seventies, Elvis had come to rely on these pills as necessary equipment for his hectic career, especially since Parker's schedule now had him working like a dog: an average of one show every other day from 1969 until June 1977 and a three-album-a-year schedule for RCA. In order to get these prescriptions, Elvis needed doctors, and there were many in Los Angeles, Vegas, Palm Springs, and Memphis who were happy to help the wealthy star out. When he visited a doctor (or dentist), Elvis would almost inevitably talk him into a prescription, usually for painkillers. Eventually, Elvis took to carrying around a copy of The Physician's Desk Reference -- an encyclopedia of legal drugs and their uses -- so that he knew just what to ask for and, when necessary, which symptoms to fake. Elvis actually had near-fatal overdoses at least twice in the Seventies and was admitted to hospitals for "exhaustion" -- that is, detoxification. He did abuse and it was in the last 3 or 4 years of his life. Drugs were not a problem before then. The most he would take was upers to get him going 60 shows a month in Vegas. and a sleeping pill to help him slepp because he suffered from insomnia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 He did abuse and it was in the last 3 or 4 years of his life. Funny how you quoted the entire article but didn't bother to actually read it, especially this part: "Elvis' fondness for prescription drugs had begun back in the early Sixties (although at least one confidant claims Elvis began by stealing diet pills from Gladys, his mother)." By the way, taking drugs to get through shows and go to sleep is "abuse". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPage1977 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Johnny Cougar is a joke! Anyone who compares him to Springsteen or Dylan needs to learn more about literature. I know, sounds troll-ish, but I can't stand a sell-out! The Rock And Roll Hall Of Shame!! VERY SAD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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