dragster Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 When society finally states PUBLICALLY that these guys were 100% CORRECT in their salute, I too will say FREE TIBET!!!! :):) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 When society finally states PUBLICALLY that these guys were 100% CORRECT in their salute, I too will say FREE TIBET!!!! :):) ANY chance any Chinese athletes will give any defiance on the medal stand. NOT A FRIGGIN' ROTTEN CHANCE IN HELL ! ! ! ! NOT THE LOCK STEP CHINESE...... THOSE COMMIES KNOW WHO BUTTERS THEIR BREAD...... AND WHO CAN "CHOP OFF THEIR HEAED " ! ! ! ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 ANY chance any Chinese athletes will give any defiance on the medal stand. NOT A FRIGGIN' ROTTEN CHANCE IN HELL ! ! ! ! NOT THE LOCK STEP CHINESE...... THOSE COMMIES KNOW WHO BUTTERS THEIR BREAD...... AND WHO CAN "CHOP OFF THEIR HEAED " ! ! ! ! The U.S. athletes who stood up for their ULTRA LEGIT RIGHTS had their "heads chopped off" in other ways.....which is EVEN WORSE in a so called "democratic" country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 THOSE COMMIES There ya go......what took ya so long??!! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I prefer this one ( T-Shirt ) NOT me...............I prefer what is UNDER that tee, hahahahahhaahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahahahahhaahhahahahahahhahahahahah!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainsbarre Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 NOT me...............I prefer what is UNDER that tee, hahahahahhaahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahahahahhaahhahahahahahhahahahahah!!! You dirty old bugger, you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 You dirty old bugger, you Right on man.......are we men or...........well better not say! :):) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 Right on man.......are we men or...........well better not say! :):) "Are We Not Men . . . . . We are DEVO ! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Dalai Lama envoys travel to China for talks May 2, 2008 NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Senior envoys of the Dalai Lama are traveling to China to meet the government over the crisis in Tibet, the government-in-exile said on Friday, only three months before the Beijing Olympics open. After a crackdown on protests against Chinese rule in Tibet, an international diplomatic chorus earlier this year urged dialogue with the Dalai Lama. Beijing abruptly announced in late April that it intended to meet his aides. "During this brief visit, the envoys will take up the urgent issue of the current crisis in the Tibetan areas," the government-in-exile said in a statement on its website. *source* ------------ It's not a meeting with His Holiness The Dalai Lama himself,... ..but it's a (symbolic) step in the right direction at least. Will it lead to any changes toward Tibetan autonomy?.. I tend to doubt it. I think the Chinese gov't has agreed to meet with The Dala Lama's envoy merely in attempt to wipe some of the egg off its face prior to the Olympics beginning. We'll see if the Chinese govt changes it's demonizing tone about HH after the meeting.. Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama, right, leads as Karmapa, center foreground, looks on at a prayer session in Dharmsala, India, Monday, April 28, 2008 to mark the 49th day of the protests in Tibet where several protestors died after a Chinese crackdown (AP Photo/Ashwini Bhatia) FYI.. HH the 17th Karmapa is coming to America this month (May 15th-June 2nd; giving public teachings in NY, Colorado, and Seattle). It'll mark the first time he's been allowed to travel outside India since he arrived in India after having snuck out of Tibet in December 1999 at the age of 14. He now resides at Guyto Monastery, not far from Dharamashala (where The Dalai Lama resides). Karmapa is the head of the Karma Kagyu lineage and has been receiving teachings and transmissions from The Dalai Lama and great Kagyu masters (Tai Situ Rinpoche, Thrangu Rinpoche, Tengpo Rinpoche to name just a few) since 1992. At 23 years of age he possess extraordinary wisdom. Many people consider him the 'heir apparent' to The Dalai Lama as Tibet's political and religious leader. he's an amazing presence. It's wonderful that he's coming to America; I'll be interested to see if there's much media attention given to the occasion. HH the 17th Gyalwang Karmapa, Ogyen Trinley Dorje Gyuto monastery; India [photo: Hermit, 2007] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted May 3, 2008 Author Share Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) Talks between Chinese, Dalai Lama officials set to begin May 3, 8:43 AM (ET) By ANITA CHANG BEIJING (AP) - Chinese media railed against the Dalai Lama and his supporters Saturday and pledged to crush any campaign seeking independence for Tibet ahead of a meeting between Beijing and envoys of the exiled spiritual leader. The meeting in the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen would be the first between the two sides since violent anti-government protests erupted in Tibet in March. Prime Minister Samdhong Rinpoche of the India-based Tibetan government-in-exile said envoys are scheduled to arrive in Hong Kong on Saturday and travel to the neighboring city of Shenzhen for meetings to begin Sunday. The representatives, Lodi Gyari and Kelsang Gyaltsen, would convey "deep concerns" over China's handling of the situation in Tibet and would put forward suggestions to bring peace to the region," the Tibetan government-in-exile said Friday. China has faced mounting international calls to negotiate with the Dalai Lama, and some experts believe Beijing agreed to meet to ease pressure ahead of the Olympics, which begin in August. The Tibet talks were not mentioned Saturday in China's entirely state-run media, but two articles continued to accuse the Dalai Lama and his supporters of organizing riots with an aim of breaking the far western Himalayan region of Tibet away from Chinese rule. "The hope of realizing Tibetan independence by the Dalai clique has become more and more dim. When their hopes shattered, the Dalai clique launched bloody violence, this was their last act of madness," the Tibet Daily said. The Dalai Lama, who fled Tibet amid a failed uprising in 1959, says he is seeking meaningful autonomy for Tibet rather than independence from Chinese rule. He has decried "cultural genocide" in his homeland, which has a unique Buddhist tradition distinct from the rest of China. The Dalai Lama is deeply revered by Tibetans. Men in that position have traditionally been regarded as both the spiritual and political leader of Tibetan Buddhists. A front-page story in the overseas edition of People's Daily, the Communist Party mouthpiece, denied the Tibetan issue was related to religion, saying "the religious issue is a card played by the Dalai clique for gaining the sympathy from some people." Thubten Samphal, spokesman for the Tibetan government-in-exile, said the Dalai Lama's envoys will meet with the head of China's United Front Work Department during their three-day visit. The department is designed to deal with influential people in groups outside of China's Communist Party and sway them into joining the party's side. It is directly under the Communist Party's central committee and often deals with issues related to Tibet and Taiwan. The United Front Work Department hosted earlier talks between the two sides. China and representatives of the Dalai Lama's government-in-exile held six rounds of inconclusive talks that foundered in 2006. The department, directly under the Communist Party's central committee and responsible for overseeing work to "contain separatist forces," hosted envoys attending earlier talks. China and representatives of the Dalai Lama's government-in-exile held six rounds of inconclusive talks that foundered in 2006. Since the last talks, the department has gained a new boss, Du Qinglin, a former minister of agriculture who more recently ran Sichuan province, where there is a large Tibetan population. The department has an unlisted phone number and could not be reached for comment Saturday. No other Chinese officials were available for comment on Saturday, a national holiday in China. The talks were being held on an informal level only "because we cannot do business as usual when the situation in Tibet is so grave," Thubten Samphal said Friday. "The crisis in Tibet should end before formal discussions should be held," he said. China says 22 people died in violence in Tibet's capital of Lhasa, while overseas Tibet supporters say many times that number have been killed in protests and the security crackdown across Tibetan regions of western China. Edited May 3, 2008 by The Rover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 "Are We Not Men . . . . . We are DEVO ! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Talks between Chinese, Dalai Lama officials set to begin May 3, 8:43 AM (ET) By ANITA CHANG BEIJING (AP) - Chinese media railed against the Dalai Lama and his supporters Saturday and pledged to crush any campaign seeking independence for Tibet ahead of a meeting between Beijing and envoys of the exiled spiritual leader. The meeting in the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen would be the first between the two sides since violent anti-government protests erupted in Tibet in March. Prime Minister Samdhong Rinpoche of the India-based Tibetan government-in-exile said envoys are scheduled to arrive in Hong Kong on Saturday and travel to the neighboring city of Shenzhen for meetings to begin Sunday. The representatives, Lodi Gyari and Kelsang Gyaltsen, would convey "deep concerns" over China's handling of the situation in Tibet and would put forward suggestions to bring peace to the region," the Tibetan government-in-exile said Friday. China has faced mounting international calls to negotiate with the Dalai Lama, and some experts believe Beijing agreed to meet to ease pressure ahead of the Olympics, which begin in August. The Tibet talks were not mentioned Saturday in China's entirely state-run media, but two articles continued to accuse the Dalai Lama and his supporters of organizing riots with an aim of breaking the far western Himalayan region of Tibet away from Chinese rule. "The hope of realizing Tibetan independence by the Dalai clique has become more and more dim. When their hopes shattered, the Dalai clique launched bloody violence, this was their last act of madness," the Tibet Daily said. The Dalai Lama, who fled Tibet amid a failed uprising in 1959, says he is seeking meaningful autonomy for Tibet rather than independence from Chinese rule. He has decried "cultural genocide" in his homeland, which has a unique Buddhist tradition distinct from the rest of China. The Dalai Lama is deeply revered by Tibetans. Men in that position have traditionally been regarded as both the spiritual and political leader of Tibetan Buddhists. A front-page story in the overseas edition of People's Daily, the Communist Party mouthpiece, denied the Tibetan issue was related to religion, saying "the religious issue is a card played by the Dalai clique for gaining the sympathy from some people." Thubten Samphal, spokesman for the Tibetan government-in-exile, said the Dalai Lama's envoys will meet with the head of China's United Front Work Department during their three-day visit. The department is designed to deal with influential people in groups outside of China's Communist Party and sway them into joining the party's side. It is directly under the Communist Party's central committee and often deals with issues related to Tibet and Taiwan. The United Front Work Department hosted earlier talks between the two sides. China and representatives of the Dalai Lama's government-in-exile held six rounds of inconclusive talks that foundered in 2006. The department, directly under the Communist Party's central committee and responsible for overseeing work to "contain separatist forces," hosted envoys attending earlier talks. China and representatives of the Dalai Lama's government-in-exile held six rounds of inconclusive talks that foundered in 2006. Since the last talks, the department has gained a new boss, Du Qinglin, a former minister of agriculture who more recently ran Sichuan province, where there is a large Tibetan population. The department has an unlisted phone number and could not be reached for comment Saturday. No other Chinese officials were available for comment on Saturday, a national holiday in China. The talks were being held on an informal level only "because we cannot do business as usual when the situation in Tibet is so grave," Thubten Samphal said Friday. "The crisis in Tibet should end before formal discussions should be held," he said. China says 22 people died in violence in Tibet's capital of Lhasa, while overseas Tibet supporters say many times that number have been killed in protests and the security crackdown across Tibetan regions of western China. Well I hope the DL will get this thing over and done with.....and let's get the real stuff THE OLYMPIC GAMES...started for s**t's sake!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainsbarre Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 Well I hope the DL will get this thing over and done with.....and let's get the real stuff THE OLYMPIC GAMES...started for s**t's sake!!!!!!!!!! I'm looking forward to the Games, I might pop over to China when they're on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragster Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 I'm asking myself what sport and te Olympic Ganes are coming too................they should kick politicas outta the Games.......OUTTA EVERYTHING ACTUALLY!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainsbarre Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 I'm asking myself what sport and te Olympic Ganes are coming too................they should kick politicas outta the Games.......OUTTA EVERYTHING ACTUALLY!! They do tend to make uneccesary bedfellows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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