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The Next President of the USA will be?


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Who will win the Presidency in 2008?  

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  1. 1. Who Wins in 2008?

    • Hillary Clinton
      47
    • Rudy Giuliani
      9
    • John Edwards
      7
    • Mike Huckabee
      7
    • John McCain
      42
    • Barack Obama
      136
    • Ron Paul
      21
    • Mitt Romney
      9
    • Bill Richardson
      1
    • Fred Thompson
      3


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Does it really matter what politico wins?

The working schlob looses any how! :rant:

The key word being schlob :rolleyes:

Yes it does matter. Is that really a question? If you mean individuals, then the schlob you're referring to should get off his own ass and think about doing something different with his life, other than bitch about his job. But if we're talking about the masses, then yes a President can make or break them. What happens in the next four years could determine where the American goes for a very long time. Will we go back to our roots in free market capitalism or are we going to move on into pseudo-socialism? The President may have the power soon enough to make that call

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That's a very tough question. Unfortunately I will not be voting this year for any of the candidates. I do feel that America was once a very strong country in the sense that it had a great vision to live in the life of justice. It was once a country that wanted to enjoy the labor of working within your means. Than finding a mate to marry and by a home and settle down to raise a family. This has changed.

Washington D.C. has changed. Any candidate with new ideas of improving the country is overshadowed once they enter office. There are too many "power that be" who are manipulating the "vision" America once stood for. It's all about Big $$'s. (and I am sorry to have to state this).

Lawyers have become very clever in manipulating the laws that protect us. Big corporations hire these lawyers to do their dirty work so that they can bend the laws in their favor. It's a very big-stakes game.

Counting on one of the current presidents to follow through and fight those who are undermining the Constituition of the USA is going to be a do-or-die fight. He or she are going to have to bewilling to place their lives on the line. He or she would have to go as far as to declare Marshall Law in Washington, D.C. in order to "clean house" and put a stop to the non-violent manipulation of what the Constituition stands for. It's become like the game Monopoly. The more you gain control of the board. The more that power can run the country. And they don't even have to be in the White House to do it.

Now this is just my opinion and it was not my intention to rain on any ones parade here.

B)

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Thanks for sharing that, MSG.

You're welcome, Manderlyh. It's interesting that, in her endorsement speech, Caroline Kennedy mentioned that her teen-age children were inspired by Obama and brought him to her attention. That's exactly how it was for my husband and me: 3 1/2 years ago, our own children began to talk to us about Obama in the same way.

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You're welcome, Manderlyh. It's interesting that, in her endorsement speech, Caroline Kennedy mentioned that her teen-age children were inspired by Obama and brought him to her attention. That's exactly how it was for my husband and me: 3 1/2 years ago, our own children began to talk to us about Obama in the same way.

In my opinion liberals tend to think a lot like children in terms of what seems to inspire them. Fairytales and stories that make them feel good about things. So I not too surprised by that.

Stark brutal realities are usually what conservatives seem to accept.

I'm pretty stark and brutal...

Especially at tax time. :mad:

(it's a joke, don't take me seriously)

:whistling:

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Yes.. he.. can! :cheer:

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any more doubts about whether or not Barack can pull it off? ;)

history is in the making, folks.

:hippy:

I believe that the final decision of who is president will be made by George Bush senior and a small circle of his college buddies over cocktails somewhere in the Hamptons.

No really!

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Thought you were drinking the nector from Hillary's left tit Hermit?

I've said all along that I think Hillary would be a better POTUS than any of the republican candidates, and I stand by that position. I've also said all along that Hillary has not been my first, second, third, or even fourth choice among dem candidates to get the nomination. Now that the field is down to three dem candidates, I'll say Hillary is solidly my third choice. How any of that translates in your mind to me "drinking the nector from Hillary's left tit" is a mystery to me. :rolleyes:

Btw,.. how are you handling Fred Thompson having dropped out of the republican race?

You were sucking up whatever it was he was spewing forth (between naps), weren't you? :whistling:

:P

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That's a very tough question. Unfortunately I will not be voting this year for any of the candidates. I do feel that America was once a very strong country in the sense that it had a great vision to live in the life of justice. It was once a country that wanted to enjoy the labor of working within your means. Than finding a mate to marry and by a home and settle down to raise a family. This has changed.

Washington D.C. has changed. Any candidate with new ideas of improving the country is overshadowed once they enter office. There are too many "power that be" who are manipulating the "vision" America once stood for. It's all about Big $$'s. (and I am sorry to have to state this).

Lawyers have become very clever in manipulating the laws that protect us. Big corporations hire these lawyers to do their dirty work so that they can bend the laws in their favor. It's a very big-stakes game.

Counting on one of the current presidents to follow through and fight those who are undermining the Constituition of the USA is going to be a do-or-die fight. He or she are going to have to bewilling to place their lives on the line. He or she would have to go as far as to declare Marshall Law in Washington, D.C. in order to "clean house" and put a stop to the non-violent manipulation of what the Constituition stands for. It's become like the game Monopoly. The more you gain control of the board. The more that power can run the country. And they don't even have to be in the White House to do it.

Now this is just my opinion and it was not my intention to rain on any ones parade here.

B)

I agree for the most part. Unfortunately it is a different world, money and networking from the towns to washington!! I'm voting, but i'm just hoping that there arent any hanging chads issues.

The variety of this - presidential campaign, combined with the burnout of the -bush administration is just baffling, for me. 60yrs in -iraq vs. pull out troops next year issue being one, just whacky!

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Btw,.. how are you handling Fred Thompson having dropped out of the republican race?

You were sucking up whatever it was he was spewing forth (between naps), weren't you? :whistling:

:P

I haven't supported a single Republican candidate this entire election, aside Ron Paul.

As for Freddie, he can go back to acting. He's good at something.

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In my opinion liberals tend to think a lot like children in terms of what seems to inspire them. Fairytales and stories that make them feel good about things. So I not too surprised by that.

Stark brutal realities are usually what conservatives seem to accept.

I'm pretty stark and brutal...

Especially at tax time. :mad:

(it's a joke, don't take me seriously)

:whistling:

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Del Z., I don’t want to engage you in a political or philosophical discussion or debate because I don’t think there is anything that we could say to one another that would change our opinions, how we view the world, or how we live our lives. I just want to clarify a few things. I can see how, from my post, you may have come to the conclusion that I am a liberal Democrat. I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican. My views on some issues may be considered liberal while my views on other issues may be labeled conservative.

Your idea that “liberals tend to think a lot like children” could, I admit, describe what sometimes inspires me to take action (although I prefer “idealistic” rather than “childish”) but I am also strongly motivated and inspired by “stark brutal realities”.

My husband and I are completely self-made (thanks to the opportunities that exist in this country as well as hard work, and a certain amount of luck) and, because we are not ideologues, we put our beliefs into action. We contribute to and are deeply involved in a number of charities and foundations that have no political affiliations. I don’t want to talk about these (or the extent of our activities) on a public forum, but you are welcome to PM me, Del Z., if you are interested in more details.

btw, our two oldest children heard Obama speak, met him, and were exposed to his ideas because of work that they were involved in 3+ years ago. They are completing their university studies this year and (unlike my husband and I when we were their age), they are intelligent, mature, well-read, well-traveled and they do not “think like children”.

:beer:

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John McAncient wins Florida primary.

Romney comes in second.

and Giuliani... :whistling:

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NBC: Giuliani to endorse McCain

Former New York City mayor finishes distant third in Florida

ORLANDO, Fla. - After a poor showing in Florida's Republican primary, NBC News and the National Journal reported Tuesday night that Rudy Giuliani will endorse winner John McCain on Wednesday in California.

Speaking to supporters Tuesday night, Giuliani referred to his candidacy repeatedly in the past tense, as though it was over.

[source: msnbc.com]

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it IS over.

bye, Rudy. :wave:

candidate....votes........%......delegates

McCain.......670,592....36%...57..(93 total)

Romney.....574,789.....31%...0...(59 total)

Giuliani......273,253.....15%...0...(1 total)

Huckabee...250,580.....13%...0...(40 total)

Paul...........59,840.........3%...0...(4 total)

The Ancient One continues his campaign

toward the 'liberal-republican' nomination. :P:D

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Del Z., I don’t want to engage you in a political or philosophical discussion or debate because I don’t think there is anything that we could say to one another that would change our opinions, how we view the world, or how we live our lives. I just want to clarify a few things. I can see how, from my post, you may have come to the conclusion that I am a liberal Democrat. I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican. My views on some issues may be considered liberal while my views on other issues may be labeled conservative.

Your idea that “liberals tend to think a lot like children” could, I admit, describe what sometimes inspires me to take action (although I prefer “idealistic” rather than “childish”) but I am also strongly motivated and inspired by “stark brutal realities”.

My husband and I are completely self-made (thanks to the opportunities that exist in this country as well as hard work, and a certain amount of luck) and, because we are not ideologues, we put our beliefs into action. We contribute to and are deeply involved in a number of charities and foundations that have no political affiliations. I don’t want to talk about these (or the extent of our activities) on a public forum, but you are welcome to PM me, Del Z., if you are interested in more details.

btw, our two oldest children heard Obama speak, met him, and were exposed to his ideas because of work that they were involved in 3+ years ago. They are completing their university studies this year and (unlike my husband and I when we were their age), they are intelligent, mature, well-read, well-traveled and they do not “think like children”.

:beer:

I wouldn't take what I say to heart, because I actually think Obama is probably the most inspiring speaker of all the canidates out there right now. He certainly is bringing many new ideas to the debate.

They are all bad ideas... but at least he running a good campaign against the Clinton machine.

Now we just have to wait and see if the party with all the 'bad ideas' will be able to beat the party with the 'no ideas.'

A political realist, Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli had little regard for John Stuart Mill's brand of social idealism. Mill, speaking before the British Parliament one day, briefly outlined Bentham's maxim ("the greatest good for the greatest number"). "Ah," Disraeli drily declared from the Tory benches, "the nursery governess..."

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Cheers!

~Del Zeppnile

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