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Who will win the Presidency in 2008?  

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  1. 1. Who Wins in 2008?

    • Hillary Clinton
      47
    • Rudy Giuliani
      9
    • John Edwards
      7
    • Mike Huckabee
      7
    • John McCain
      42
    • Barack Obama
      136
    • Ron Paul
      21
    • Mitt Romney
      9
    • Bill Richardson
      1
    • Fred Thompson
      3

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SunChild

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If Barack (Barry) Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or with the Secret Service, he would be disqualified because of his past association with William Ayers, a known terrorist and Tony Rezko, a convicted felon.

If he is elected President he would not qualify to be his own body guard!

Some facts about the Weather Underground bombings: they called in advance to warn to evacuate, and set bombs off it was in the middle of the night in deserted government buildings. Not saying it was right, I don't think they were innocent lambs, but the bombs were meant to bring attention to the daily bombing of civilians that was going on in Vietnam and Laos which the Nixon administration was LYING about. Nixon killed innocent people through bombings by the thousands. The times were different, then, kiddies.

"We petitioned, we demonstrated, we sat in. I was willing to get hit over the head, I did; I was willing to go to prison, I did. To me, it was a question of what had to be done to stop the much greater violence that was going on. David Gilbert"

As has been pointed out repeatedly, Barack Obama was 8 years old then. I mean, the man's bright, but...

Ayers had long since become a respected member of society when they both served on the board of a non profit organization founded by a REPUBLICAN organization. Your own side accepted Ayers as a part of the mainstream before Obama did.

Seriously, if that's all you got, if that's what you think is gonna push McCain into the White House, you're barking up the wrong tree. But keep it up; the more you do, the farther McCain sinks in the polls.

As for applying for a job, here ya go. Tell me who you'd hire:

Educational Background:

Obama:

Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.

Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Biden:

University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. i n Political Science.

Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

McCain:

United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Palin:

Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester

North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study

University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism

Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester

University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism

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If Barack (Barry) Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or with the Secret Service, he would be disqualified because of his past association with William Ayers, a known terrorist and Tony Rezko, a convicted felon.

If he is elected President he would not qualify to be his own body guard!

Are you sure about that? Being in the same room and/or serving on the same charitable board as a 'person of interest' is on disqualifies you for an FBI or SS job? <_<

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Obama's Socialist Agenda -- Is Anyone Listening?

Bobby Eberle

October 14, 2008 at 6:38 am

Outside of stump speeches, carefully scripted responses to reporters, and the endless recitation of talking points, there are a few moments when a politician speaks from the heart. It is in these moments when true motivations and core beliefs are often revealed.

Such a moment occurred this past weekend, when Barack Obama unveiled his socialist leanings and gave a clue to the American people about what Obama is all about. But, are the American people listening? Have they become so duped by the rhetoric of "hope" and "change" that they don't see the train wreck that's about to happen? Our freedoms are already being taken away as government continues to grow. If Obama gets elected, the subtleties will be thrown out the window as blatant socialism will rule the day. Just read Obama's response to a plumber's question in Ohio...

As reported by Fox News, during a campaign event in Ohio, Obama was peppered with questions from a local plumber who asked, "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" The plumber was complaining (as I often do) that he is "being taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream."

Obama's response? He gave the plumber a classic dose of socialism:

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

Spread the wealth around? This is America, isn't it? Redistributing the "wealth" is a classic tenant of Marxist philosophy. Communist China, the former Soviet Union, Cuba, and so on.... they all believe in government ownership of basically everything. Hard work, initiative, expertise... none of that is rewarded. Instead, the efforts of the talented and the hard-working are taken from them and given to those who don't work as hard. The result is a decrease in productivity, not to mention the self-fulfillment that comes from being rewarded for a job well done. And this is exactly what Barack Obama wants to do!

John McCain needs to get the message out on EXACTLY how he and Barack Obama are different. Yes, there should be tax cuts, and they should be for all Americans. Everytime Obama speaks about tax cuts, he only talks about cutting taxes for a particular group or segment of society. It is social engineering at its worst. Obama and the "govermennt" will decide how to redistribute the wealth of this country. McCain needs to hammer this!!!

My question to Obama is this... How do you make the economy good "for folks at the bottom up" without injecting more government into the picture or letting capitalism work?

Does Obama really understand the essence of America? It is strong because of the American spirit of invention and the bravery to undertake new endeavors. Those at the economic bottom DO NOT create jobs. Those at the economic bottom get hired for jobs. When the economy is robust, more jobs are created, thus more people get hired. There's not a business existing in America today that doesn't want to "do more business." In order to grow, more workers must be hired, and more capital purchased... both of which benefit the economy. Doesn't Obama understand this???

Let's just do a little simple math to see how taxes really work. Let's say there is a person making $50,000/year and paying 15% in federal income tax. Thus, the person's yearly tax burden is $7,500. If someone making $1,000,000/year paid at the same tax rate, they would pay $150,000 in taxes. So, the person making $50,000 pays $7,500, and the person making a million pays $150,000. Those who make more money, pay more in taxes. It's only logical.

However, that is not how a socialist thinks. Rather than each person truly paying "their fair share," the socialist says that the "rich" person should not only pay more because he or she makes more, but they should also pay a higher percentage. So, the person making $1,000,000/year instead pays 35% in taxes for a tax bill of $350,000. That's an extra $200,000 that the government takes out of circulation to pay for their social engineering.

My contention is this, there is basically nothing that the individual with an extra $200k as his/her disposal could do that is "bad" for the economy. The person could save it, thus giving banks more leverage to do business. The person could invest in, thus helping new or established companies grow. The person could donate some to charity, thus help organizations at the grassroots level do things more efficiently than the federal government could ever hope to. Or, God forbid, the person could simply go out and buy stuff. Two hundred thousand dollars of stuff is a lot of stuff! Imagine all that cash injected into society. Talk about a stimulus package. More goods being purchased, whether it is cars, clothes, furniture, food, or whatever, means that more jobs will be needed to produce those goods. It's as simple as that.

The problem is that Obama uses the politics of "trickle down economics" to pit one socio-economic group against another. It is typical class warfare, and it is un-American. Someone (McCain) needs to meet this head on and use some "straight talk." There is no "trickle down" theory. The more money that is in the hands of those who make the money, and outside the clutches of government, benefits the entire society instantly. There is nothing to trickle down. When all Americans are treated fairly, we all benefit. That is the American way!

Investor's Business Daily describes Obama as "the most anti-capitalist politician ever nominated by a major party." In their editorial, IBD describes the Obama/liberal agenda as follows:

It starts with a tax system right out of Marx: A massive redistribution of income -- from each according to his ability, to each according to his need -- all in the name of "neighborliness," "patriotism," "fairness" and "justice."

It continues with a call for a new world order that turns its back on free trade, has no problem with government controlling the means of production, imposes global taxes to support continents where our interests are negligible, signs on to climate treaties that will sap billions more in U.S. productivity and wealth, and institutes an authoritarian health care system that will strip Americans' freedoms and run up costs.

All the while, it ensures that nothing -- absolutely nothing -- will be done to secure a sufficient, terror-proof supply of our economic lifeblood -- oil -- a resource we'll need much more of in the years ahead.

McCain needs to board the Straight Talk Express and let the American people know what Obama is all about, and how McCain is different. Make no mistake, Sen. McCain, an Obama administration IS scary. You should be scared too. You should also hit Obama hard every single time he engages is socialist rhetoric.

All people are capable of abusing the system, and as we've seen lately, both Republicans and Democrats are capable of greed and corruption. But it is not the American way to punish initiative and ingenuity. It is not "patriotic" to pay more taxes. All Americans should pay less taxes! In tough economic times, the last thing you want to do is hurt business producers. Who is going to create the jobs? The government?

This is an opinion piece and clearly not factual based. The sentence "And this is exactly what Barack Obama wants to do!" is written to elicit fear.

And...am I the only dumb shit that doesn't make a million dollars a year that's in the 30% bracket? I KNOW I'm going to save more money on Obama's plan than McCains! Stop whining....

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How the hell did you get Obama, Bush AND McCain all in one pic like that?

I go this one.

Bush is the one with the hand over his mouth because he can't speak well.

McCain has to be the one with the hands over the ears because he couldn't do that if he wanted to. (you know the whole thing about the Vietcong breaking his arm 5 times)

Obama is the one who is blind. No good reason but He need his big goofy ear to hear what Wright and Ayers been telling him, he can only speak, so that's out of the question. Maybe you should post one with a monkey holding a brain and cord running from his head to Pelosi and Reid computer.

Still, I don't think it's right to compare Obama to a monkey, when it's obvious that monkey understands the concept of economics better than he could. I have yet to hear that monkey say he will raise taxes in a recession.

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That's the part that intrigues me the most. They call Obama a Socialist, they say he wants to institute socialist systems if elected.....and yet they say nothing when the Republican administration socializes our banking and finance industries. Are these government-funded takeovers only acceptable when the GOP is behind it?

Seems that way, doesn't it? According to them, redistribution of wealth to the already wealthy is not socialism, it's just the way it should be. It's perfectly ok if only 1% of people make out like bandits.

The other thing you'll hear them say is the problems were all caused by the Democrats... they will honestly state this, even though the Republicans have been in power for years on end, forcing deregulation of all manner of industries ever since Ronald Reagan came riding in.

Fact: GW oversaw the biggest redistribution of wealth (to the oil companies) that has ever occurred. All the while patting his supporters on the head and spouting off about the evils of socialism, as they nodded sagely in agreement and congratulated themselves on their superiority to libruls... while losing the equity in their homes, 40% or more of their retirement accounts, and their ability to get decent healthcare.

In the last two weeks we've seen the limits of unrestrained capitalism. The socialist countries of the European Union had to show the US the way to avoid complete disaster. Guess what the sane adult answer is?

Socialism.

I love it. :D

They're just tryin' to blame someone not on their side for the shock they're in now that reality is staring them in the face. Obama is handy, that's all. Denial is phase one, anger phase two... we're just starting on the anger part.

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OMG.

They are defending voter fraud.

This is great.

I will have to rank this right below

Wright is not Anti-American because he was a marine (so was Lee Harvey Oswald)

and Bill Ayers warned people before he tried to blow them up.

Im still waiting for that one good one about how socialism is a good thing, it may come soon.

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Haha

They told them before they bombed them.

OMG. You did not go there.

Thats my excuse now when somebody ask me if i feel bad for all the Iraqis who died in the war. I just say "Bush warned them"

Why, is there loads of terror in setting off a bomb you just warned everyone about, in the middle of the night, when no one's around?

Although of course property damage always means so much more to Republicans than actual human death. Edited to add - I mean, it's so typical of you to ignore the thousands of people Nixon was killing at that time.

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Why, is there loads of terror in setting off a bomb you just warned everyone about, in the middle of the night, when no one's around?

Although of course property damage always means so much more to Republicans than actual human death. Edited to add - I mean, it's so typical of you to ignore the thousands of people Nixon was killing at that time.

OMG

People got hurt in those bombings. I know of one who is paralyzed. and there is still a few more out there that no one claimed doing, but people got killed. All of which was typical WUG fashion bombing.

and It was LBJ who escalated the Vietnam war. In fact it was JFK who originally doubled the troops that lead to the escalation. (by the way, i don't think it was a coincidence that JFK and the South Vietnam president was Roman Catholic).

WTF

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Why is the Dow down 700+ points today?

OBAMA leads in the polls and promises...

Socialism, tax increases for small business and big business....

....while giving the money away to those who make the least impact on

our potential for a stronger economy. Spread the "wealth" to those that have nothing or very little to do with strengthening our economy.... oh boy...there's a great idea! :rolleyes:

For those of you who want to live in a socialist country....move to France. Have fun living in eternal depression.

Can you say A.C.O.R.N. ???.... Obama gives money to these criminals!! They are proven to produce a large amount of tainted voter registrations.... Democratic!! <_<

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I just started to watch the Debate.

They asked Obama what would you do about the education, when we spend more per captia per student, but fall well below other countries. His answer. Spend more money.

McCain wants to fire bad teachers and allow people to send their kids to the school of their choice.

Obama didn't mention his experience on education. I wonder why. He has it, I know the board he say on has a known unrepentant terrorist and the Chicago public school district is the worse. Don't no.

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Im Joe the Pipefitter.

i'm currently house painting and graduated from -hofstra. I think there is going to be a unified wave of voting among the middle class all the way through the country, after the last eight yrs.

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