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Just to follow up on what I stated earlier...

here's an example

A while back a girl asked me about a guy who was keen on meeting her. She e-mailed me his username and asked what I saw.. I immediately got a bad feeling and saw that he was dangerous and told her that she would have an extremely bad time, and that rape was in his plans and their was a chance of murder. She decided not to go meet him. A few weeks later that person was arrested for raping a girl he met on line and is the suspect in the murder of another girl he met online. I have helped other girls avoid such tragedies butt to see the guy arrested in the news and to have her confirm that it was him makes doin what I do all the more fun!!!

That reminds me of a time when I was hitchhiking with my girlfriend and a guy stopped to give us a ride. I took one look at him and just knew he would be trouble, so I hesitated to accept the ride. My girlfriend insisted on getting in the guy's vehicle. I knew he would take advantage of her if she went by herself, so I got in the truck anyway, knowing that there would be a problem. Sure enough, halfway down the freeway, my girlfriend was jabbing her elbow into my side telling me to get out of the truck.

As I glanced at the speedometer I noticed he was doing 65 miles per hour. I thought maybe I had better wait until he slowed down. In the meantime he had his free hand all over her and she was freaking out. Finally he slowed down to turn at the exit to about 5 miles per hour, and this was our chance to escape. I prayed as I rolled my butt out onto the hard asphalt that she would get out before he could speed away with her, and she did. I had black and blue bruises on my butt for two weeks, but we were safe.

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I agree with you. It troubles me to hear people minimize the responsibility/obligation of the parents. Teach your children at a young age, and hopefully they will have the common sense they need to avoid potentially dangerous situations. That is my main point.

If you don't feel your child is responsible enough to be on the internet without potential danger, don't let them be on the internet!

Whatever happened to reading books or going outside and playing? Too much time is spent here, losing precious brainpower...

That's the best thing we can do I guess. Teach our kids the best we can and everyone help look after other peoples kids, keep your eye's peeled and

help the children.

They are "our" freaking kids no matter how you look at it and "our" future.

I don't mean we own them, but we can have community watch's and things. I used to baby sit for my neighbors AND was part of the community watch.

Anyhow, good post.

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Actually i live in a pretty safe neighborhood, but you can never be too safe. I thought Gerald might want to lend his expertise...

The approach which is best is on a ground level. You need several persons on each block with clear views of the streets, houses and entrances in. The ground watch people need to know all the persons in the "hood," especially the children and keep a lookout. Parents are the best for this because they many times know the other childern as their children are friends and vice versa. Kid's get around at a young age. The watch people keep phone numbers of all parents and participants in the watch. They know who is new in the neighborhood and have meetings at local churchs and with police. Police are good at this, many are parents themselves and you would be surprised at how many may live in or near you. The participants also share a small web site built by someone to log in and or e-mails with others.

Log in, phone up, check with everyone about things suspicious and do walks around the "hood."

Installing signs to say you have a watch is just that, a sign. You have to do the legwork and be willing to knock on doors and know the people. Flyers are nice to pass about first so people know when you knock your not being weird.

Kids are good helpers too. They love to talk. Make a couple little watchmen of sorts, ask the children playing if they see anything strange.

The children need a reasonable curfew and need to adhere to it. If the town or city doesn't have one for underage children? Have one drawn up for yours and submit it to council. Put up signs.

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I'm not gonna say it's easy to do. It's freakin hard! I just hope i will be able to instill enough self esteen and responsible behaviors into my child (with the help of family and good teachers) so she is prepared for the difficult years ahead of her. I will be praying she makes the right decisions and DOES ask me or family for help/advice before doing something stupid. I won't be blaming others if she doesn't, so i better try my best.

I could use a community watch in my neighborhood, interested in starting one here? (for a while anyway, LOL).

It isn't easy but as long as you/we try our best, then that's as much as we can ask of ourselves. It is not alway's the parent's fault if our kids get into trouble. Most of us have learned some hard lesson's in our lives and it wasn't our parent's fault that we did. We do know however, that totally irresponsible parenting can be blamed when warranted. There's no way to watch over them 24/7 and we shouldn't be trying to do that. If we've done our job properly then what we hope for is.. they are not scared of us and are willing to look to us for guidance. IMHO, and I know this will sound weird to some, I think it is a mistake to be a friend to your kids. They have plenty of those. What they need is someone they feel secure with,someone who will say, no it's not OK to do this or that. It gives them an out when they need one. Most kids do know the difference between right and wrong. Sometimes they just don't want to admit it to they're pals. There's an old falsehood that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Well you can if you allow them to believe they thought of it. Same apply's to kids.

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My hitchhiking days are over.

I'm talkin 'bout in anythanng man

like when you get that inexplicable vibe that says no no no even though whatever it is looks so tantalizing listen ta that inner feelin, truth will never make you do bad it will just warn you and if ya don't wanna listen than get ready for somethin flippin that you ain't willin

so

stay cool & keep on chillin

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I want to praise you, Roblindblad, for what you do. I find it so amazing that you invest yourself to help others in such a way. I have so much respect for you.

well I can say, with a beer in my hand, you put a smile on my face

thanks!

anytime girl

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  • 7 months later...

This came to me in an email and I must admit I'm guilty of one infraction :slapface:

Clever Ploy This lady has changed her habit of how she lists her names on her mobile phone after her handbag was stolen. Her handbag, which contained her cell phone, credit card, wallet... etc...was stolen.. 20 minutes later when she called her hubby, from a pay phone telling him what had happened, hubby says 'I received your text asking about our Pin number and I replied a little while ago.'

When they rushed down to the bank, the bank staff told them all the money was already withdrawn. The thief had actually used the stolen cell phone to text 'hubby' in the contact list and got hold of the pin number. Within 20 minutes he had withdrawn all the money from their bank account.

Moral of the lesson: Do not disclose the relationship between you and the people in your contact list. Avoid using names like Home, Honey, Hubby, Sweetheart, Dad , Mom, etc..... And very importantly, when sensitive info is being asked through texts, CONFIRM by calling back!!

Also, when you're being text by friends or family to meet them somewhere, be sure to call back to confirm that the message came from them. If you don't reach them, be very careful about going places to meet 'family and friends' who text you.

Along with that if you have an entry called 'Home' with your actual home phone number it's not too hard to do a reverse lookup on the number to find the address. now the robber has your home number, keys, AND address.

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This came to me in an email and I must admit I'm guilty of one infraction :slapface:

Clever Ploy This lady has changed her habit of how she lists her names on her mobile phone after her handbag was stolen. Her handbag, which contained her cell phone, credit card, wallet... etc...was stolen.. 20 minutes later when she called her hubby, from a pay phone telling him what had happened, hubby says 'I received your text asking about our Pin number and I replied a little while ago.'

When they rushed down to the bank, the bank staff told them all the money was already withdrawn. The thief had actually used the stolen cell phone to text 'hubby' in the contact list and got hold of the pin number. Within 20 minutes he had withdrawn all the money from their bank account.

Moral of the lesson: Do not disclose the relationship between you and the people in your contact list. Avoid using names like Home, Honey, Hubby, Sweetheart, Dad , Mom, etc..... And very importantly, when sensitive info is being asked through texts, CONFIRM by calling back!!

Also, when you're being text by friends or family to meet them somewhere, be sure to call back to confirm that the message came from them. If you don't reach them, be very careful about going places to meet 'family and friends' who text you.

Along with that if you have an entry called 'Home' with your actual home phone number it's not too hard to do a reverse lookup on the number to find the address. now the robber has your home number, keys, AND address.

Scams and fraud everywhere. Smart crooks everywhere. Well i never give my pin number to anyone. Even when i was married i don't recall my husband (who i trusted 100%) knowing that information. No reason in particular, but we also kept seperate checking accounts.

Moral of this report: a little paranoia is a good thing. As the economy worsens, crime will just rise.

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This came to me in an email and I must admit I'm guilty of one infraction :slapface:

Clever Ploy This lady has changed her habit of how she lists her names on her mobile phone after her handbag was stolen. Her handbag, which contained her cell phone, credit card, wallet... etc...was stolen.. 20 minutes later when she called her hubby, from a pay phone telling him what had happened, hubby says 'I received your text asking about our Pin number and I replied a little while ago.'

When they rushed down to the bank, the bank staff told them all the money was already withdrawn. The thief had actually used the stolen cell phone to text 'hubby' in the contact list and got hold of the pin number. Within 20 minutes he had withdrawn all the money from their bank account.

Moral of the lesson: Do not disclose the relationship between you and the people in your contact list. Avoid using names like Home, Honey, Hubby, Sweetheart, Dad , Mom, etc..... And very importantly, when sensitive info is being asked through texts, CONFIRM by calling back!!

Also, when you're being text by friends or family to meet them somewhere, be sure to call back to confirm that the message came from them. If you don't reach them, be very careful about going places to meet 'family and friends' who text you.

Along with that if you have an entry called 'Home' with your actual home phone number it's not too hard to do a reverse lookup on the number to find the address. now the robber has your home number, keys, AND address.

Aha, good tip! Thanks for that.

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So much info here to go over. I wonder if it is safe to go to a public computer such as a library, and log in and access your bank account? Ie, go to the online banking site, log in, do your business, log out and leave? I have never done it because Im afraid someone could get the password somehow and wipe me out? I use online banking every day. I dont pay bills that way anymore, but I do transfers from savings to checking and vise versa.

I've had to do it before because my city was submerged under several feet of water and couldn't return to my house for a week. Just make sure you clear the computers cache when you log off. But that was an emergency. I've used my phone a few times as well.

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So much info here to go over. I wonder if it is safe to go to a public computer such as a library, and log in and access your bank account? Ie, go to the online banking site, log in, do your business, log out and leave? I have never done it because Im afraid someone could get the password somehow and wipe me out? I use online banking every day. I dont pay bills that way anymore, but I do transfers from savings to checking and vise versa.

Don't know if it's related, but I once was without internet service at home so I went to a cafe and used the internet there. A month later, someone had charged over 5,000 on my credit card. So just be really careful if you do anything beyond check email I would say.

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I know what you mean as I clear the cache and history every day even at home. But I dont know if they monitor or have some way of recording everything that is being done as they have students to keep track of and are on the look out for people looking for porn sites and I just fear that if some savvy worker there has the smarts to trace passwords? If there was a court order for instance to go in and pull a hard drive they may have a way to get there hands on it? Not sure. Even a camera overhead or hidden could nail you? Paranoid? Maybe a bit. But if you have thousands of dollars to worry about being hacked Id rather not use a foreign computer and take a chance. I need to get someone to clean this one up a bit as I have a teenager that uses it. Fucking AOL, I hate it. I knew a guy that was a computer software engineer at a local college and he says that once you have AOL on your computer it just tries to take over. I agree. When I get my own computer that I dont have to share I will never have AOL or any of the bullshit that these teenagers keep using I have to clean the files every time she is done with it Then I go to search files and type in *.tmp and wipe out those files. I know how to wipe out the hard drive and do a system restore but I dont know which programs on add/remove to zap. Its not bad but I want more speed. I have high speed cable but I dont have as much speed as I would if I didnt have a damb teenager on here.

Add more memory or better yet take some of those "thousands of dollars" and buy them their own computer :slapface::lol:

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Don't know if it's related, but I once was without internet service at home so I went to a cafe and used the internet there. A month later, someone had charged over 5,000 on my credit card. So just be really careful if you do anything beyond check email I would say.

The cafe probably didn't have a good firewall on their wireless server.

This happened at a few stores a while back. All the hacker had to do was pull up in front of the store and absorb the information with a laptop. If you use wireless you need to

make sure it's secured and even better if you don't broadcast the router.

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Yeah, a memory board may be the way to go. As for money, there is this issue called a wife. Remember that? :inlove:

I think you just got rid of one. My guess is you will have another one at some point So in the interum, spend and live it up while you can. I can't even get my damb guitar yet. And that is ahead of a computer on my priority list.

Depends on how you define "Got Rid Of" still writing checks to her! :rolleyes:

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The cafe probably didn't have a good firewall on their wireless server.

This happened at a few stores a while back. All the hacker had to do was pull up in front of the store and absorb the information with a laptop. If you use wireless you need to

make sure it's secured and even better if you don't broadcast the router.

It was a few years ago but good to know that for the future. I haven't gone anywhere to use a public computer since. But thanks for the tips just in case!

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Don't feel bad. My divorce was expensive. It took me about six years to pay off the bitch. I found out later she had cheated on me years before, briefly, from a former friend of hers that had no reason to lie to me. So I got my daughters. And I got a bastard of a judge that ordered me to pay half of the credit cards that were in her mothers name! Marital debt they said. After not paying for a few months I had to pay her fucking lawyer fees as well. All in all I wound up paying $13,000. Its all paid and all over now. The whole system is bullshit. I paid my daughters way through college, book store bills with no help from her and the fucking judge made me pay her for some medical bills on top of it and didnt force her to pay half the bookstore bill. She will never get another dime from me. You will get through it. And learn from it Im sure. I am remarried now and am happier than she is Im sure. Another flaw in the system is they can lie to you, cheat on you and they still get part of your pension for the time you were together. It just isnt right.

:huh: So you got a pre-nupt this time?

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Most banks' sites, like Wachovia, Bank of America, SunTrust, etc., are encrypted (you should see a little padlock in the address bar). If the site isn't encrypted, don't access it on a public computer. Also, clear the cache when you're about to log off. It clears out cookies, any stored passwords you might have inadvertently clicked. Also, clear your browser history so anyone coming on after you won't know the sites you accessed, especially if any of them had to do with you bank accounts/credit cards. Don't give them the idea to start snooping around and they probably won't.

Another thing, make sure the computer is on a firewall and has anti-virus software. Any viruses/trojan horses/worms on that computer could be transferred to your computer through any emails you might send yourself or any documents you save to then upload at home at a later date. Most viruses found on public systems are pretty generic because they have to infect basic systems, but they could do a lot of damage to your set-up if you're not careful. Also, invest in a privacy screen. They're plastic sheets you lay over the screen so that people on either side of you can't see what you're typing. From the side, the screen looks black. I have one on my laptop so when I'm out in public, even if I'm only typing a response to something here, people can't tell what I'm writing. This is another way to protect any sensitive information of yours, such as email addresses, first/last names or even what sites you belong to.

I would say about 90% of internet safety is common sense. The other 10% is just applied mechanics.

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The majority of people that have their accounts hijacked unwittingly give that info away themselves.

I could go on ebay at just about any given time and spot a hijacked user account.

Usually somebody has clicked on a phony email link and given their log in password away :slapface:

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