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The guitars I am thinking of getting are a $450 Fender Stratocaster(I think it's the Mexican one),or a 450$ Telecaster (also Mexican I believe),or a Gibson SG $699, and a $450 Epiphone Les Paul, and MAYBE an $800 GIBSON Les Paul (but I doubt it). I was also thinking of getting a Danelectro DC with the $450 guitars. What do you think/recomend, remeber $500-$700.

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les paul studio model 800-1000. if your going to spend 700 you might as well spend 800. if you dont weant to spend 800- 1000 then only spend 99 on china model.

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The guitars I am thinking of getting are a $450 Fender Stratocaster(I think it's the Mexican one),or a 450$ Telecaster (also Mexican I believe),or a Gibson SG $699, and a $450 Epiphone Les Paul, and MAYBE an $800 GIBSON Les Paul (but I doubt it). I was also thinking of getting a Danelectro DC with the $450 guitars. What do you think/recomend, remeber $500-$700.

I'd grab the Epi Paul and slap some burstbucker pickups in it. Then again I already have a Mexi-strat, so I'm probably biased...Though it has served me very well. Between the Strat, Tele, and Epi I'd say it's pretty fair game. Just depends on the sound you want. While the Gibsons you have listed do carry the Gibson name on the headstock, they are low end Gibsons. And I hear quality control is not good with the low end Gibsons. Buy cheap and upgrade!

If I may borrow a quote from another thread...

Hell, my Epiphone Standard smokes my production Desert Burst Standard. Fit, finish, flame, tone. For 300 bucks!! Sure, the tuners are cheap crap, but I bought it for a beater, something I wouldn't worry about hurting, and it surprised the shit out of me! Made in China. Go figure! Stuck a set of Burstbuckers in it and Hey, this is all right!!

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les paul studio model 800-1000. if your going to spend 700 you might as well spend 800. if you dont weant to spend 800- 1000 then only spend 99 on china model.

thats how I feel except it's not my money.lol.

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I just pm somebody about my experience at guitar center. i played a epiphone Les Paul standard with a crate combo 2x12 and it was fucking awesome. i was really surprise how well i sounded, even though i been playing bass for the last 10 years. the guitar i thought was in really good shape and I'm sure the amp was very helpfull too. The guitar may of been a little noisy for a Les Paul, but it still fucking rocked. I'm still a bassist so dropping 2 grand for a Gibson Les Paul is not something i want to do, but $600 for a epiphone Les Paul custom or for the black beauty is definitely worthy for a part time player. You can find well built ones. just not as often as the name brand.

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I'm not particularly fond of the $500-$700 range of guitars.

If its your first guitar, I'd go cheaper, $300-$400 range or even a starter set.

If you have been playing a few years and are set on getting a second guitar, I'd suggest moving up into the $800-$1000 range where you can buy great instruments that will last you a long time without being over the top expensive. For around $800-$900 you can buy a used Gibson les paul studio or a used Epiphone les paul elitist. Save up an few extra hundred, I'd go for that instead.

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I'm not particularly fond of the $500-$700 range of guitars.

If its your first guitar, I'd go cheaper, $300-$400 range or even a starter set.

If you have been playing a few years and are set on getting a second guitar, I'd suggest moving up into the $800-$1000 range where you can buy great instruments that will last you a long time without being over the top expensive. For around $800-$900 you can buy a used Gibson les paul studio or a used Epiphone les paul elitist. Save up an few extra hundred, I'd go for that instead.

If you are going to buy a Les Paul studio, which I never would, I would spend the extra money for a standard. If money were a big issue, Id spend a bit less and get the Epiphone. Just my opinion.

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If you are going to buy a Les Paul studio, which I never would, I would spend the extra money for a standard. If money were a big issue, Id spend a bit less and get the Epiphone. Just my opinion.

The difference between the Epiphone les paul standard or custom and a used Gibson les paul studio is a matter of a few hundred dollars. That I think is very much worth the difference in quality between the two guitars.

The difference between a les paul studio and standard, however, is essentially a flame top and binding. Of course you'd much rather have the standard, but the difference in price between the studio and standard is quite a bit more than just the few hundred between an epiphone and studio.

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The guitars I am thinking of getting are a $450 Fender Stratocaster(I think it's the Mexican one),or a 450$ Telecaster (also Mexican I believe),or a Gibson SG $699, and a $450 Epiphone Les Paul, and MAYBE an $800 GIBSON Les Paul (but I doubt it). I was also thinking of getting a Danelectro DC with the $450 guitars. What do you think/recomend, remeber $500-$700.

You might try the Line 6 Variax 600 about 699.

I was going to go into a mini dissertation on tone/guitar types. However, it doesn't sound like you are really looking for a collectible. Have you heard of the Variax? It's a pretty amazing piece of equipment. Its a single guitar that electronically models a virtual collection of the most famous guitars. Strats, Teles, Les Pauls, Rickenbackers, Gretschs, acoustics and the Danelectro. Plus you can change pickup specs with the accompanied software. There are subtle sacrifices when you compare to the actual guitars for example palm muting is a little off. but overall I'd say a Variax gets you about 90 percent there.

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Buying a $450 Danelectro is a poor choice.

If the Gibson isn't an option, I'd opt for a stratocaster or Epiphone les paul (make sure you play plenty of them and choose the one that you like because there are a lot of duds). The SG you're talking about is an SG Special I assume? I've never played the SG special, but I've played the les paul special and I'm not a huge fan.

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You might try the Line 6 Variax 600 about 699.

I was going to go into a mini dissertation on tone/guitar types. However, it doesn't sound like you are really looking for a collectible. Have you heard of the Variax? It's a pretty amazing piece of equipment. Its a single guitar that electronically models a virtual collection of the most famous guitars. Strats, Teles, Les Pauls, Rickenbackers, Gretschs, acoustics and the Danelectro. Plus you can change pickup specs with the accompanied software. There are subtle sacrifices when you compare to the actual guitars for example palm muting is a little off. but overall I'd say a Variax gets you about 90 percent there.

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Sorry...... I'm going to be nice and not comment further......

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Sorry...... I'm going to be nice and not comment further......

Hey why not make this a no-holds barred discussion! Go ahead and be a snoot. <_< . Nothing you can say about this guitar is going to hurt my feelings. I already said, we're not looking at a museum piece and the Variax is not without its sacrifices. (I did need to have mine repaired)

I was originally going to recommend the Variax 300 which sold for $300-400 until I found out it is now discontinued. Because it is such an interesting guitar I decided to stick with the recommendation.

The Variax is certainly a working musician's guitar. There's a lot of Variax players who work two weddings and a happy hour gig and church service every weekend. They need the flexibility that this guitar delivers and it doesn't hurt that it plays and sounds relatively decent.

Pinky's just starting out. This guitar could teach him a lot. Eventually I'm sure he will go out and get himself the heirloom guitar(s) any musician deserves.

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Pinky's just starting out. This guitar could teach him a lot. Eventually I'm sure he will go out and get himself the heirloom guitar(s) any musician deserves.

I've actually been playing for 3 years now and I play 4-8 (the most 12) hours a day, definatley not just starting out. B)

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I've actually been playing for 3 years now and I play 4-8 (the most 12) hours a day, definatley not just starting out. B)

I'm just going to say that from my experience, and I am a working musician, that electronics do not replace a good chunk of wood with the right hardware and pick ups on it. Line 6 equipment is for people that don't have a great ear, but want a variety of sounds for cheap. I own a couple of their products. I NEVER use them at live gigs.

I'd rather have a Fender Squier going through a used Fender tube amp getting one nice, real tone than a electronic toy guitar. Line 6 sounds great through headphones, by yourself shredding but that's where the usefulness stops. OK...I said it..... sorry!

I'd recommend an Epiphone Les Paul if you need a good, inexpensive guitar or a Cheap Fender Strat, if that is your bag. Stay away from the "techie toys"....... they will end up disappointing you.

Just my opinion.... not the right advice for everyone.

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yes a good hunk of wood, thats what you will remember after 30 years

...added...stomp boxes and prosceessors come and go....except of course my old phase 90, and my first distortion plus and my micro amp....and the electro harmonix fuzz, and twidling off the screws on my old crybaby, and the tape loop echo, and then came the boss digital delay and chorus. but with the band I didn't really use that stuff. the best tone I had was just my Les paul custum cherry burst(71) plugged into my marshall stack. the sustain and tone. Unfortunatly I sold that rig and now i use a 99 dollar china model epiphone 1 pick up plugged directly into the computer. I have to work harder to get the tone but i know the sound I am going for. I think its best to learn and practice on a good instrument. my friends who were shredding in the 80's with those chrvels missed the boat. I also like steinways with really heavy action. I think the proper action and tone bring out passion in playing as apposed to pod 6's. also same with recording, the less shit in the chain the better.

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I'm just going to say that from my experience, and I am a working musician, that electronics do not replace a good chunk of wood with the right hardware and pick ups on it. Line 6 equipment is for people that don't have a great ear, but want a variety of sounds for cheap. I own a couple of their products. I NEVER use them at live gigs.

I'd rather have a Fender Squier going through a used Fender tube amp getting one nice, real tone than a electronic toy guitar. Line 6 sounds great through headphones, by yourself shredding but that's where the usefulness stops. OK...I said it..... sorry!

I'd recommend an Epiphone Les Paul if you need a good, inexpensive guitar or a Cheap Fender Strat, if that is your bag. Stay away from the "techie toys"....... they will end up disappointing you.

Just my opinion.... not the right advice for everyone.

I agree with the "techie toys" statement. Multi-effects processors, in my experience, are bad if you don't get the good stuff. I used to have a Digitech BP200 when I was just starting out (well I still have it...just haven't used it in forever...) that had all these effects, and it was the nicer of the cheap ones, but it was still not up to snuff. I'd let a note ring and after a few seconds it'd start to cut out 'cause it had some sort of threshold that just killed sustain.

Line 6 does make some nice stuff though. Sure, they make a few techie toys, but if you want something good (as with any brand), you have to spend some cash. Line 6's DL-4 is the most versatile delay I've come across, and it actually is a nice piece of equipment. But it wasn't cheap. I use it live all the time, and have gotten several compliments on its performance. It's a keeper.

I say stay away from things that try to imitate other things. Amp modulators? Out. Guitars with multi-effect processors integrated into them? Definitely not. A guitar is a guitar, a pedal is a pedal. That's what I say anyways. Let your gear be itself.

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I have had many guitars but by far and I hate to mention the combination I am using, but go ahead and laugh.....an ESP Signature Hetfield JH-3 with EMG active pickups running thru a GNX3 guitar processor thru a Drive 120 amp and a Fender Rumble 100 bass amp stereo effect for bottom end. I swear it will it sounds like it would be a garbage combo.......................but holy shit ,you cannot go wrong if you choose to invest or at least experiment with this combo. I know you can pick up the ESP similar or close to this for around $900 + but mine was $1700 and retailed for $2700 . Just throwing an idea for you to look at.

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I run effects pedals, but agree with others that modeling units are crap. I run Boss, Digitech, Dunlap Wah, Lexicon effects and Furman Power Conditioners. I play Gibson Standards (2), a PRS Hollowbody II, Ibanez Jem7 and an Epiphone Jimmy Page Custom Doubleneck.

I have a Line6 AX212 combo.....that I do not use live, but record and practice with at times. I have an old Line6 POD that I take with me when I travel, so I can practice in hotel rooms!

My live rigs are a Marshall JCM800 2x12 combo and a Traynor 80 watt 2x12 combo. TUBE AMPS! :D My pedal board is packed with cool stuff!

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I have purchased the berhringer bass F/x rack mount and i love it. It is really good at low volumes, but as people told me, live is a different story. You can fix any of the problems you might have using it live, but it's work intensive. For live work i use little of the F/X and the compressor is the main thing i use. With all that said, if i get more serious about playing live, ill just go buy the individual pedals that i like. for 150 bucks, it's like a test drive for pedals that will cost you around 70 bucks a piece. I don't care much for the simulators of the amps and Speakers, but the effects are usefull in some bits and some of the grouped effects setting are good even without live tinkering. But i play a fender through a SWR rig and i always make sure it sounds like a fender through a SWR rig.

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I have had many guitars but by far and I hate to mention the combination I am using, but go ahead and laugh.....an ESP Signature Hetfield JH-3 with EMG active pickups running thru a GNX3 guitar processor thru a Drive 120 amp and a Fender Rumble 100 bass amp stereo effect for bottom end. I swear it will it sounds like it would be a garbage combo.......................but holy shit ,you cannot go wrong if you choose to invest or at least experiment with this combo. I know you can pick up the ESP similar or close to this for around $900 + but mine was $1700 and retailed for $2700 . Just throwing an idea for you to look at.

Sounds good to me. :lol:

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I have purchased the berhringer bass F/x rack mount and i love it. It is really good at low volumes, but as people told me, live is a different story. You can fix any of the problems you might have using it live, but it's work intensive. For live work i use little of the F/X and the compressor is the main thing i use. With all that said, if i get more serious about playing live, ill just go buy the individual pedals that i like. for 150 bucks, it's like a test drive for pedals that will cost you around 70 bucks a piece. I don't care much for the simulators of the amps and Speakers, but the effects are usefull in some bits and some of the grouped effects setting are good even without live tinkering. But i play a fender through a SWR rig and i always make sure it sounds like a fender through a SWR rig.

I have an ESP but it is WAY too tinny for my liking but my uncle gave it to me for free so I couldnt say no.

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