wanna be drummer Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I whould put a vote in for Paul Gilbert, my favorite "shredder". Satriani as well is really good. Surfin With the Alien, great album/song Bucketheads my favorite shredder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deezer Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 When we're talking shredders, gotta go with Eric Johnson. Talk about TONE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucyinthesky Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) Imagine this scene: The end of time. God or the devil or whoever made all the great guitarists of the Rock history rising from their graves. All of them are standing at a lonely crossroad somewhere down in the delta... You can see Hendrix and Page, Vai and Satriani, Chuck Berry and BB King. A thunderstorm. Lightning all over. Earthquakes and rain. Suddenly a tall siluetto appeares on the road. In a lightning you can see him. He's a tall black man with an oldfashioned suit, a hat and a guitar case in his hand. All the guitarists- the greatest of all times bend their knees in awe... The man is Robert Johnson, the king of delta blues, the king of the guitar. OK, OK... I'm just a girl, I want to have fun. I'm down with with nerves, and haven't slept too much, excuse my strange fantasy. But genuinely: I think no- and I mean NO- guitarist would dare challenging Robert Johnson. He was the greatest, is the greatest and will always be the greatest! Edited May 27, 2008 by lucyinthesky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPage1977 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Danny Gatton was mentioned earlier...he was very good! A master of the Telecaster! Those of you who think that Steve Vai doesn't have any great songs haven't listened to him. He has great feel and plays with emotion. The fact is that he can shred while doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderguy Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Danny Gatton was mentioned earlier...he was very good! A master of the Telecaster! Those of you who think that Steve Vai doesn't have any great songs haven't listened to him. He has great feel and plays with emotion. The fact is that he can shred while doing it. Yes, that was me. Anyone who is a fan of retro telecaster rock owes it to himself to pick up a copy of 88 Elmira Street by Danny Gatton. I am sorry to say I don't have any of his other stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yahyoubetcha Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Steve Vai is not an emotionless robot of a guitar player. Why do people not like his music? Because instrumental guitar rock doesn't appeal the mass audience. Same reason why great players like Eric Johnson are not big. Instrumental rock is just a boring genre. But again, this isn't Malmsteen in a guitar duel who would sit there and sweep pick arpeggios from Paginini pieces over and over again. Vai's playing actually has character. I disagree. My favorite guitar player/band/artist/performer has always been Jeff Beck. Instrumental rock. I love Camel and they are mostly intrumental and there are others. But after listening to 2 or 3 songs by Steve Vai, even though he's technically amazing, I just get bored of it, like "okay, that was great but you got anything else?" And I'm a guitar player. But the question of a Rock Off is really pretty interesting. What would the format be? How would they be judged? There are so many great guitar players. It might be best just to hear them all compete without actually having to pick a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPage1977 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I disagree. My favorite guitar player/band/artist/performer has always been Jeff Beck. Instrumental rock. I love Camel and they are mostly intrumental and there are others. But after listening to 2 or 3 songs by Steve Vai, even though he's technically amazing, I just get bored of it, like "okay, that was great but you got anything else?" And I'm a guitar player. But the question of a Rock Off is really pretty interesting. What would the format be? How would they be judged? There are so many great guitar players. It might be best just to hear them all compete without actually having to pick a winner. Maybe it's because I actually try to learn Steve's stuff and know how intricate and difficult the techniques he uses are. Check out his "Live in London DVD".... pretty great stuff. Jeff Beck is incredible...I agree. To each his own.... Steve would be Wyatt Earp in a guitar showdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danelectro Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) I agree that from a pure technical standpoint guys like Vai would have a big edge, because of all the afore mentioned statements, the guy is a monster player. However creating great music doesn't mean it has to be technically demanding, if I was stranded on a island and had my choice of one Beatles tune and the entire Shrapnel Records catalog I'd likely choose the Beatles. But some guys possess great technique as well as great musical ideas and Vai is one of those people. I also agree that many classic rock era players are somewhat overrated as technical players but what is tough to put a value on is being a pioneer and coming up with original riffs. I'm not a huge fan of people like Joe Perry but I prefer his simplistic riffing to anything Greg Howe did. Besides its tough to compare a guy like Hendrix or Page to todays shred style players who are in their prime and have had the benefit of learning from all that came before. One thing is for sure if a guitar battle was soley based on being able to technically outplay the competition even the B-list players like Michael Lee Firkins and Joe Stump would slaughter well thought of classic rock guys like Page and Hendrix. IMO the "one good note" or tasteful note selection theory that people argue means something really doesn't work in a guitar battle where the point is to shred the face off of the competition. Not that I'm into the cutting heads thing, macho chest beating activities are best left to drunken jocks and other back slapping monobrowed morons. Keep in mind people were saying the same stuff about Page and Hendrix when they were the fastest guns around. Guitar playing evolves with each generation, its a good thing IMO. That said I'm going to head to Pandora and create a shred station because I'm in the mood for some hot shit guitar playing now. Edited June 3, 2008 by danelectro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomethinElse Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 (edited) It all depends on who was judging the competition. Page plays with more emotion than anyone in my opinion. Vai is an amazing player, but I could not whistle one of his tunes or really even recall how they went. Page did have an amazing assembly of musicians,however, his melodies and music are incredible and his appeal to the human spirit is so much more so than Vai's. Edited June 6, 2008 by SomethinElse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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