GetTheLedOut Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 As you all know, Zeppelin recorded just about every goddamn thing they worked on together. As a result, songs and jams of very high quality are scattered across many bootlegs. There are many songs that were later morphed into songs that would appear on official albums, overhauled versions of old blues songs (which are almost universally awesome), and long extended jams. Let's gather and begin creating a list of these such tracks. Try to include the name of the track, a rough date or time period, the bootleg it's available on, and any other information you can provide. Let's leave out the extremely long jams, as there are just too many to log. Let's go for songs. Here's just a few, I know of more and I'm sure you do as well: Around And Around (aka Round And Round): A Chuck Berry cover. Its year of creation is unknown (Plants vocals sound like they are in mid-70s form). It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. Crossroads: A live recording of the Robert Johnson song (although the Zeppelin version is not too far removed from the Cream version). While the quality of the recording isn't great, it's clear that the band, especially Plant, is in fine form. I estimate the time period at about 1969-71. It is available on Zeppelin Unreleased And Rare Tracks, Vol. 2. Don't Start Me Talking/Blues Medley/All My Lovin': A medley of blues standards. Not the best sounding recording, and the band is playing very loose and casual, so there are not too many fireworks here. Still, worth a listen. I believe this dates to the late 70s, maybe as part of the Presence or In Through The Out Door recording sessions. It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. Dynamite: I don't know much about this one, but it has some pretty sweet riffs in it. Don't know the when it was recorded either, I'll guess 1972-74, but that's nothing more than a guess. It is available on Cabala. Fire (Say You're Going To Leave Me): An original track recorded at Clearwell Castle in May of 1978. It was part of the first session after the band reconvened following the death of Plant's son Karac. The sessions were scrapped since Plant was not fully ready to return to work, however this unfinished piece survived on bootleg. It finds Plant in wailing form, and contains some nice riffage. Available on Led. For What It's Worth/I Saw Her Standing There: A live double cover of Buffalo Springfield and the Beatles. Sounds like it's from 1969 or early 1970. It is available on Zeppelin Unreleased And Rare Tracks, Vol. 2. Feel So Bad/Fixing To Die/That's Alright: It's a blues medley that contains the standards Feel So Bad, Fixing To Die, and That's Alright Mama. It is believed to have been recorded in the early summer of 1970 at Headley Grange. Page has said that Hats Off To (Roy) Harper was taken from a mix tape of different blues pieces, and this may very well be what he was talking about. It's available on the Antrabata Tapes. I Wanna Be Her Man: I don't know if this is an original or a cover due to the ambiguity of the name. It's an acoustic song, with some lyrics already written but still a whole lot of wordless singing. It was an outtake for Led Zeppelin III. It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. Jennings Farm Blues: An instrumental that essentially became Bron-Y-Aur Stomp that was recorded in November 1969 at Olympic Studios. The song is named after the farmhouse Plant bought following the release of Led Zeppelin II. It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. Sugar Mama: A cover of the Sonny Boy Williamson song (although some debate this). It was recorded in June 1969 in Morgan Studios and was intended to be a part of Led Zeppelin II. It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. I have plenty more and I will get to it later. Here's a laundry list of others, please expand these and the ones above so we can make this list comprehensive. Frankfurt Special (Station Blues) Hail Hail Rock And Roll Happy Birthday Hungry For Love I'll Never Get Over You I Gotta Move In The Morning Killing Floor Lighter Than Air Love Me Like A Hurricane Lucifer Rising Minnesota Blues Money (That's What I Want) Move It Move On Down The Line Nadine Over The Top Pat's Delight Reelin' And Rockin' Rice Pudding School Days Sex Machine Shakin' All Over Sittin' And Thinkin' Stand By Me Strawberry Jam Sugar Baby Not a typo and not the same as Sugar Mama, FYI Sunshine Woman Surrender Swan Song Take Me Home Telephone Secrets Technically not Zep since it was part of the XYZ project, but it's worth adding Train Kept A Rollin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandown Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 I remember when I got my first bootleg, too. You might want to ask Nigel Williamson about the recording dates for some of these songs. Also, I'm about 99% certain that a Led Zep recording of "Crossroads" does not exist.....so I'd say that you're way off on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Just think of the numerous Elvis covers the band performed in concert over the years from "That's Alright Mama", "Heartbreak Hotel" and "(You're So Square), Baby I Don't Care". Most were usually part of the WLL medley. Supposely, sometime back in the early 70's they performed a soundcheck before a show performing several of Elvis' hits. It was said, they basically covered his album "Elvis Golden Records-Volume I". Would love to have a copy of this. Anyone have any detailed info on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetTheLedOut Posted May 30, 2008 Author Share Posted May 30, 2008 I remember when I got my first bootleg, too. You might want to ask Nigel Williamson about the recording dates for some of these songs. Also, I'm about 99% certain that a Led Zep recording of "Crossroads" does not exist.....so I'd say that you're way off on this one. Further proving your are a dumb ass... I have the recording. If you want it PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandown Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 I have the recording. If you want it PM me. PM sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3hrsoflunacy Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Add to the list about 40 untitled instrumental tracks, and a lot of Page doodling on an acoustic guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandown Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Further proving your are a dumb ass... I have the recording. If you want it PM me. I received your PM, thanks. However, that's not Led Zeppelin. Sorry. As I said before, I'm about 99% (make that 99.9%) certain that a Led Zep recording of "Crossroads" does not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Further proving your are a dumb ass... Come again? Clearly, you don't know Swandown nearly as well as I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandown Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Come again? Clearly, you don't know Swandown nearly as well as I do. Steve, Replace "Swandown" with "Led Zeppelin" and "I" with "most fans of Led Zeppelin". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Steve, Replace "Swandown" with "Led Zeppelin" and "I" with "most fans of Led Zeppelin". Well, perhaps he's learned from this. He's a good lad, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatbo Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 swandown, would you be putting any nations at risk by revealing who was playing crossroads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandown Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 swandown, would you be putting any nations at risk by revealing who was playing crossroads? I kinda like the idea of letting GTLO twist in the wind a little longer. (check your PMs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yucko Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 you forgot the XYZ songs "Mind Drive", "Fortune Hunter", and "And Do You Believe It" As you all know, Zeppelin recorded just about every goddamn thing they worked on together. As a result, songs and jams of very high quality are scattered across many bootlegs. There are many songs that were later morphed into songs that would appear on official albums, overhauled versions of old blues songs (which are almost universally awesome), and long extended jams. Let's gather and begin creating a list of these such tracks. Try to include the name of the track, a rough date or time period, the bootleg it's available on, and any other information you can provide. Let's leave out the extremely long jams, as there are just too many to log. Let's go for songs. Here's just a few, I know of more and I'm sure you do as well: Around And Around (aka Round And Round): A Chuck Berry cover. Its year of creation is unknown (Plants vocals sound like they are in mid-70s form). It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. Crossroads: A live recording of the Robert Johnson song (although the Zeppelin version is not too far removed from the Cream version). While the quality of the recording isn't great, it's clear that the band, especially Plant, is in fine form. I estimate the time period at about 1969-71. It is available on Zeppelin Unreleased And Rare Tracks, Vol. 2. Don't Start Me Talking/Blues Medley/All My Lovin': A medley of blues standards. Not the best sounding recording, and the band is playing very loose and casual, so there are not too many fireworks here. Still, worth a listen. I believe this dates to the late 70s, maybe as part of the Presence or In Through The Out Door recording sessions. It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. Dynamite: I don't know much about this one, but it has some pretty sweet riffs in it. Don't know the when it was recorded either, I'll guess 1972-74, but that's nothing more than a guess. It is available on Cabala. Fire (Say You're Going To Leave Me): An original track recorded at Clearwell Castle in May of 1978. It was part of the first session after the band reconvened following the death of Plant's son Karac. The sessions were scrapped since Plant was not fully ready to return to work, however this unfinished piece survived on bootleg. It finds Plant in wailing form, and contains some nice riffage. Available on Led. For What It's Worth/I Saw Her Standing There: A live double cover of Buffalo Springfield and the Beatles. Sounds like it's from 1969 or early 1970. It is available on Zeppelin Unreleased And Rare Tracks, Vol. 2. Feel So Bad/Fixing To Die/That's Alright: It's a blues medley that contains the standards Feel So Bad, Fixing To Die, and That's Alright Mama. It is believed to have been recorded in the early summer of 1970 at Headley Grange. Page has said that Hats Off To (Roy) Harper was taken from a mix tape of different blues pieces, and this may very well be what he was talking about. It's available on the Antrabata Tapes. I Wanna Be Her Man: I don't know if this is an original or a cover due to the ambiguity of the name. It's an acoustic song, with some lyrics already written but still a whole lot of wordless singing. It was an outtake for Led Zeppelin III. It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. Jennings Farm Blues: An instrumental that essentially became Bron-Y-Aur Stomp that was recorded in November 1969 at Olympic Studios. The song is named after the farmhouse Plant bought following the release of Led Zeppelin II. It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. Sugar Mama: A cover of the Sonny Boy Williamson song (although some debate this). It was recorded in June 1969 in Morgan Studios and was intended to be a part of Led Zeppelin II. It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. I have plenty more and I will get to it later. Here's a laundry list of others, please expand these and the ones above so we can make this list comprehensive. Frankfurt Special (Station Blues) Hail Hail Rock And Roll Happy Birthday Hungry For Love I'll Never Get Over You I Gotta Move In The Morning Killing Floor Lighter Than Air Love Me Like A Hurricane Lucifer Rising Minnesota Blues Money (That's What I Want) Move It Move On Down The Line Nadine Over The Top Pat's Delight Reelin' And Rockin' Rice Pudding School Days Sex Machine Shakin' All Over Sittin' And Thinkin' Stand By Me Strawberry Jam Sugar Baby Not a typo and not the same as Sugar Mama, FYI Sunshine Woman Surrender Swan Song Take Me Home Telephone Secrets Technically not Zep since it was part of the XYZ project, but it's worth adding Train Kept A Rollin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetTheLedOut Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 I received your PM, thanks. However, that's not Led Zeppelin. Sorry. As I said before, I'm about 99% (make that 99.9%) certain that a Led Zep recording of "Crossroads" does not exist. Sure as hell sounds like it to me. But please, go ahead and pretend otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetTheLedOut Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 Come again? Clearly, you don't know Swandown nearly as well as I do. I'm not saying he's without knowledge, but when he can't prove his point (which thus far is every debate he's had with me) he just assumes himself right based on what he thinks. That's not evidence, but he believes he doesn't need any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetTheLedOut Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 swandown, would you be putting any nations at risk by revealing who was playing crossroads? Well it's definitely Plant on vocals. I know there are many singers who are capable of sounding very similar to him, but this is just too damn perfect to be anything but Plant himself. It could be a Page & Plant performance. I remember reading that they performed the song as well. The voice does sound a bit too early for that though, but it's not clear either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Well it's definitely Plant on vocals. I know there are many singers who are capable of sounding very similar to him, but this is just too damn perfect to be anything but Plant himself. It could be a Page & Plant performance. I remember reading that they performed the song as well. The voice does sound a bit too early for that though, but it's not clear either way. I do have a bootleg from 1998 of P/P performing the tune at Shephards Bush in London on the 25th of March. This could be the performance of "Crossroads" that is being referred to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I do have a bootleg from 1998 of P/P performing the tune at Shephards Bush in London on the 25th of March. This could be the performance of "Crossroads" that is being referred to. I was there and it was played as an encore, absolutely no question about it. I assume they are debating a studio version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swandown Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Sure as hell sounds like it to me. But please, go ahead and pretend otherwise. Boy, when you get to the bottom you just keep on digging. It could be a Page & Plant performance. I remember reading that they performed the song as well. The voice does sound a bit too early for that though, but it's not clear either way. @ "sound a bit too early" and "it's not clear either way". Yeah, it's not clear. To you. I love how you demand that I cite a source, but it's perfectly OK for you not to use any source at all (unless you count your homemade bootleg CD). Yet you could have saved yourself from embarrassment had you simply employed a 5 second Google or Youtube search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetTheLedOut Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 Boy, when you get to the bottom you just keep on digging. @ "sound a bit too early" and "it's not clear either way". Yeah, it's not clear. To you. I love how you demand that I cite a source, but it's perfectly OK for you not to use any source at all (unless you count your homemade bootleg CD). Yet you could have saved yourself from embarrassment had you simply employed a 5 second Google or Youtube search. So your plan is to avoid every making a statement about what the song is to avoid being told you are wrong? You're an easy one to nail down swandown. If you want to tell us what you think it is, go ahead and do it. If not, stop pretending you know what it is and go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 If someone who has heard it can reply please do so. GTLO has clarified it is a live track, not a studio version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetTheLedOut Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 My strong suspicion now is that the Crossroads I have is a P&P performance, however that is still worth having on this list. There is no reason why it shouldn't span solo careers or Zep offshoots as well. Now, swandown, why don't you add to this project instead of take away from it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPageZoSo56 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 As you all know, Zeppelin recorded just about every goddamn thing they worked on together. As a result, songs and jams of very high quality are scattered across many bootlegs. There are many songs that were later morphed into songs that would appear on official albums, overhauled versions of old blues songs (which are almost universally awesome), and long extended jams. Let's gather and begin creating a list of these such tracks. Try to include the name of the track, a rough date or time period, the bootleg it's available on, and any other information you can provide. Let's leave out the extremely long jams, as there are just too many to log. Let's go for songs. Here's just a few, I know of more and I'm sure you do as well: Around And Around (aka Round And Round): A Chuck Berry cover. Its year of creation is unknown (Plants vocals sound like they are in mid-70s form). It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. Crossroads: A live recording of the Robert Johnson song (although the Zeppelin version is not too far removed from the Cream version). While the quality of the recording isn't great, it's clear that the band, especially Plant, is in fine form. I estimate the time period at about 1969-71. It is available on Zeppelin Unreleased And Rare Tracks, Vol. 2. Don't Start Me Talking/Blues Medley/All My Lovin': A medley of blues standards. Not the best sounding recording, and the band is playing very loose and casual, so there are not too many fireworks here. Still, worth a listen. I believe this dates to the late 70s, maybe as part of the Presence or In Through The Out Door recording sessions. It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. Dynamite: I don't know much about this one, but it has some pretty sweet riffs in it. Don't know the when it was recorded either, I'll guess 1972-74, but that's nothing more than a guess. It is available on Cabala. Fire (Say You're Going To Leave Me): An original track recorded at Clearwell Castle in May of 1978. It was part of the first session after the band reconvened following the death of Plant's son Karac. The sessions were scrapped since Plant was not fully ready to return to work, however this unfinished piece survived on bootleg. It finds Plant in wailing form, and contains some nice riffage. Available on Led. For What It's Worth/I Saw Her Standing There: A live double cover of Buffalo Springfield and the Beatles. Sounds like it's from 1969 or early 1970. It is available on Zeppelin Unreleased And Rare Tracks, Vol. 2. Feel So Bad/Fixing To Die/That's Alright: It's a blues medley that contains the standards Feel So Bad, Fixing To Die, and That's Alright Mama. It is believed to have been recorded in the early summer of 1970 at Headley Grange. Page has said that Hats Off To (Roy) Harper was taken from a mix tape of different blues pieces, and this may very well be what he was talking about. It's available on the Antrabata Tapes. I Wanna Be Her Man: I don't know if this is an original or a cover due to the ambiguity of the name. It's an acoustic song, with some lyrics already written but still a whole lot of wordless singing. It was an outtake for Led Zeppelin III. It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. Jennings Farm Blues: An instrumental that essentially became Bron-Y-Aur Stomp that was recorded in November 1969 at Olympic Studios. The song is named after the farmhouse Plant bought following the release of Led Zeppelin II. It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. Sugar Mama: A cover of the Sonny Boy Williamson song (although some debate this). It was recorded in June 1969 in Morgan Studios and was intended to be a part of Led Zeppelin II. It is available on the Antrabata Tapes. I have plenty more and I will get to it later. Here's a laundry list of others, please expand these and the ones above so we can make this list comprehensive. Frankfurt Special (Station Blues) Hail Hail Rock And Roll Happy Birthday Hungry For Love I'll Never Get Over You I Gotta Move In The Morning Killing Floor Lighter Than Air Love Me Like A Hurricane Lucifer Rising Minnesota Blues Money (That's What I Want) Move It Move On Down The Line Nadine Over The Top Pat's Delight Reelin' And Rockin' Rice Pudding School Days Sex Machine Shakin' All Over Sittin' And Thinkin' Stand By Me Strawberry Jam Sugar Baby Not a typo and not the same as Sugar Mama, FYI Sunshine Woman Surrender Swan Song Take Me Home Telephone Secrets Technically not Zep since it was part of the XYZ project, but it's worth adding Train Kept A Rollin' I've heard Minnesota Blues. It's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I know we recently discussed this version of the song in another thread, but its worth mentioning. The (full version) of All My Love. Minus the synth solo, its far more superior than the released one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evster2012 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 I believe the "For What it's Worth/I Saw Her Standing There" is from Blueberry Hill Sept 4, 1970 LA Forum. Also, "Minnesota Blues" is misnamed and is actually "Mess o' the Blues" ( an Elvis song) and was played for the most part during the '71 tour during Whole Lotta Love. Oh and that bed track of All My Love is fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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